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Why The Logan Paul Pokemon 1st Edition Base Case Likely Isn't Authentic - Episode 1

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Going through the details and history of Logan Paul's sealed case of 1st Edition Base Set Pokemon cards and why I think there is a good chance it is resealed, repacked and/or fake.

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24 Dez 2021

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Arturo Orozco
Arturo Orozco 4 meses atrás
LEGEND! People criticized and attacked him for giving his opinion on why he thought this box was fake and he was right. 😬
King JappyJoe
King JappyJoe 4 meses atrás
In a hobby filled with little kids and the guy who they are defending being one of the biggest kid content creators you should have expected the backlash from 13 yr olds lol. This guy def put in the research and did a great job regardless.
edit name
edit name 4 meses atrás
@ryan Campbell r u from stl
ryan Campbell
ryan Campbell 4 meses atrás
Fr
TapLab
TapLab 4 meses atrás
If youre a Pokémon investor with 6 boxes would you really sell the case and remove all of your exposure or would you slowly sell off the boxes?
Judas Tadeu
Judas Tadeu 4 meses atrás
You should open your own verification service.
Fish_ Guru
Fish_ Guru 4 meses atrás
Right well said why not keep 2 or even 1 .
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
I'd be opening at least the case at the time of purchase. Opening one of the boxes would also add more credibility to the others.
Braedan Brennaman
Braedan Brennaman 4 meses atrás
This aged well
Habeev07
Habeev07 4 meses atrás
we will not rest till this Jason and Micah are in prison for this scam.
Humane143Imperfection
Humane143Imperfection 4 meses atrás
Staged?
peraltaman
peraltaman 4 meses atrás
Fine wine
Monico Remodeling
Monico Remodeling 4 meses atrás
🤣😂😅
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Sure did. ;)
CrashPower
CrashPower 4 meses atrás
OMG YOU CALLED IT!! Nice job! I hope this helps your channel explode! Best wishes!
Adam Cogan
Adam Cogan 4 meses atrás
This man deserves a medal for his detective work. He brought all this to light 2 weeks ago and people were doubting him. Much respect my dude ✊
Connor Michael
Connor Michael 4 meses atrás
When a BRvidr can verify the authenticity of something just by looking at a picture of it better than a renowned card authentication business can who has it in there hands.. that’s a problem. Amazing work!
Kenneth Matuszak
Kenneth Matuszak 4 meses atrás
You're a legend. Great detective work. Thorough and objective reporting! Doing the LORD'S work!
J K
J K 4 meses atrás
I'm not even interested in Pokémon, but damn does Rattle deserve more subs than he currently has. Rattle is a common sense genius. Which in today's world isn't that common.
Turtle Anton
Turtle Anton 4 meses atrás
It's rare
Ali Chehab
Ali Chehab 4 meses atrás
This man deserves a medal for his detective work. He brought all this to light 2 weeks ago and people were doubting him. Much respect my dude ✊
danleonardoyo
danleonardoyo 4 meses atrás
I think most of us that saw the entire videos rattle made were pretty convinced it was fake because of his proof
Eyes Of Uncertainty / Anrisparce Kurokaze
Definitely a lot of sus in all of this. I'd trust a sagely old man in an old house selling that box before I trust an eBay seller on an item of that magnitude
Lady Grinning Soul
Lady Grinning Soul 4 meses atrás
Lolette
edux91
edux91 4 meses atrás
welp it was fake. 100%..box full of g.i joe cards.
Nico Crossing Pokémon
Nico Crossing Pokémon 4 meses atrás
Yea and if you see his latest video it looks even more sketchy!
Brent Walker
Brent Walker Mês atrás
Its funny how they act like "this is the first Pokémon item ever wrapped" is a good thing. Everything they said screamed "we've never seen a case. We have no idea what its supposed to look like. We have no idea what we are doing!"
Ross Campoli - Business Videos
Been watching through this and your other videos related to Logan's box. Amazing research! All the pictures and receipts, right there. Great job, Rattle!
Brent Walker
Brent Walker Mês atrás
This is my first time watching this #1 so I know what happens. This would be funny if it wasn't so effed up and tragic!
wtfyoumeaninvalid
wtfyoumeaninvalid 4 meses atrás
The fact that he didn't want to meet and let the person open the case is the biggest red flag of them all.
Shallow Dive
Shallow Dive 4 meses atrás
@Xinnie the Pooh I agree with you on protections like meeting at a bank or something, but to the other point, people pretend they have lots of money to gain trust so they can rob them. It's quite common on these sites
Xinnie the Pooh
Xinnie the Pooh 4 meses atrás
@Shallow Dive if someone’s willing to spend millions with you I HIGHLY doubt they’re gonna rob you lmao. Either way there’s all types of protections you could put in place. If you’re spending that type of money it’s not like you’re just gonna meet in a random parking lot somewhere.
Shallow Dive
Shallow Dive 4 meses atrás
ppl get robbed and even killed
Shallow Dive
Shallow Dive 4 meses atrás
well could be safety reasons
Ragnaros the Firelord
Ragnaros the Firelord 4 meses atrás
Found your channel through this investigation. Not a collector myself but you rocked it with reasonable analysis and excellent follow-up sleuthing. Cheers on the vindication
Samuel Preciado
Samuel Preciado 4 meses atrás
Although I am not into Pokémon and just wanted to see how Logan Paul got scammed. Even though I have not watched any of your other videos I can tell your an awesome content creator and the Pokémon community is lucky to have someone like you. You’re detective skills were on point. You’re so underrated! You’ve earned a sub from me and wish you the best with your channel!
EBTCG
EBTCG 4 meses atrás
Easy sub, thank you for the content. Would be interesting to see it opened up and confirmed. If I were buying, I would rather pay a premium to have it opened up and authenticated by Leon, King Pokémon, Rev, or TCA tbh. Don’t think it would lose value if it were opened up and authenticated that way if it ended up being real.
Xinnie the Pooh
Xinnie the Pooh 4 meses atrás
Have you watched Logan’s video since he opened it? Lmao it’s full of gi joe cards 😂😂😂💀💀💀
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Did you watch the follow up video? brvid.net/video/video-qWoVv8Ko1EA.html Definitely has to be opened.
Leaf Clan
Leaf Clan 4 meses atrás
Great work mate and well put together video . I am not an expert in this field but bearing in mind anyone with the means to buy this case in the first place must have some knowledge in the Pokemon field. How did so many people sell this on and even buy this in the first place given all the red flags which are jumping out at you. It's ridiculous, straight up fraud. Furthermore, how did a TC company verify this with their stamp of approval. If they actually did their job and looked into this like you have done they would clearly see how this a scam. How does an old cardboard box even = certified pokemon first edition content inside also? crazy.
Scott West
Scott West 3 meses atrás
Dude solved this scam at home doing research when these big shot authenticator's didn't have a clue what they were doing Kudos to Rattle Pokemon
PokéWolf
PokéWolf 4 meses atrás
Just watching this series, really good and detailed! Well done
BTD 747
BTD 747 4 meses atrás
this guy deserves more subs......he spoke up when no one else did.
zdogs28
zdogs28 4 meses atrás
Honestly 6 boxes of gi joe for 3.5 mil is a steal. Was a happy ending after all lol
Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell 3 meses atrás
The whole thing was faked from the beginning for likes/views/publicity.
Matt
Matt 4 meses atrás
@El Socio lol no it’s not worth anywhere what first edition Pokémon’s cards would have been. He was joking 🙃
El Socio
El Socio 4 meses atrás
It’s worth more?
dontstalkmegoogle
dontstalkmegoogle 4 meses atrás
I love these informative videos. It's wild that that baseball card company seemingly didn't try to track the box's origins at all? Like, maybe I'm an idiot, but I thought the big fuck-off ID numbers on the box were supposed to convey information.
Austin Duvall
Austin Duvall 4 meses atrás
If it was at an estate sale I'm pretty sure for tax purposes you have to list the items being sold and their estimated values... I doubt this box would've been laying under a table with a bunch of other Pokemon cards not to mention the family didn't open it to make sure it wasn't something important of his they might wanna keep? Nah I don't believe this at all I wanna see an obituary for the dead grandson and a listing for the estate sale itself.
gogglespisano24
gogglespisano24 4 meses atrás
Even though this story is fake, I know plenty of folks who have "estate sales" but they aren't really. It is just "buy my dead relative's stuff because I need to get rid of it"
Xxstephenx1x
Xxstephenx1x 4 meses atrás
people don't idc what they say I know plenty of people who run estate sales and don't report whet they are selling. it's too hard to track items from estate sales rarely they don't report unless it's a big operation and they are a buisness most people just sell and take a percatage and don't report just like at antique shows I do them every month I might sell 2 grand at a show but I don't report what I sell.
Rob B
Rob B 4 meses atrás
​@Rattle Pokemon Interesting point, however If I died, I doubt that the executor of my estate is going to care or understand the value of collectible cards I have, beyond sports cards, which they likely will think of as being valuable from stories they heard of their parents having their Mickey Mantle cards thrown out when they went to college. They most likely would list them as a lot or take them to a TCG shop to sell, UNLESS i have printed instructions/valuation information that lets them know they are valuable. Most people that aren't in the hobby have any idea about these things. Now, if I have gold, silver, sterling silverware, or old baseball cards, they would likely recognize those have some value that should be investigated. My parents had a large lot of my revised/unlimited MTG cards put loose in a shoebox, and fortunately, they weren't damaged. I did not even know they were still at their house, until I picked up they hobby again after college.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Unless it's one of the other three origin stories.
Mike Freeman
Mike Freeman 4 meses atrás
That eBay listing was so sketchy; so many red flags. Good call that it was a fraud, well done!
ThatBugBehindYou
ThatBugBehindYou 4 meses atrás
In all honesty this couldn't have happened to a better person, Logan wasn't going to be losing money on this regardless of what was going to happen because the money exchanged for this was all probably out of his BRvid budget and the attention he's got from it along with the views has most likely already made up for it. Imagine if this happened to someone who was actually risking something on it instead? Imagine if it got sold off another 2 or 3 times and then got to someone who actually needed the money from it only to get a big egg in their face. Sometimes good things happen in the weirdest ways. On a separate note, to anyone wondering Logan has already gotten his money back from the direct seller so not only did he make money back from this he also made money on the whole experience as well, the man stays winning and honestly good for him.
Ja LE
Ja LE 3 meses atrás
He actually lost 700k but yes he’ll soon earn 700k back just small tax charge to him lol
Matt
Matt 4 meses atrás
Yeah Logan had no risk in this deal because of his relationship with his seller and his overall savy. Unfortunately for his friend, he’s currently the one out 2.7 million and even though we know he bought it from the card show guys, it’s no guarantee they still have all his money to refund him. They also got scammed into buying a worthless box. So this definitely isn’t a victimless crime and this needs to be handled properly. The original seller if they can track him it down deserves to go to jail for this.
Michael Wall
Michael Wall 4 meses atrás
It’s incredible the amount of twists and turns there are and I have the advantage of finding all this out and knowing the results first. I have no idea how you pieced all this together while others were actively trying to scrub the info
flychomperfly
flychomperfly 4 meses atrás
I owned 3 original 1st ed boxes years ago. Never owned a case. I've also sold high-end cards previously on ebay. A few comments... we have seen restocking fees on ebay -- some sellers were still allowed to charge it, and other sellers have questioned ebay customer service how that happens. But, it's never a low-volume seller like that one. Also, while I agree that most sellers would prefer to have the cards picked up directly, there was actually a discussion on the community boards about whether that was wise. There was an incident where the person picked up, but without a third-party carrier to make the delivery, there was no proof the item was handed directly to the actual buyer. I think there may be a QR code now that can be scanned at the point of exchange, but I don't know for sure if that is in place and if it works. Just wanted to help with that info.
Ja LE
Ja LE 3 meses atrás
This then confirms eBay and any case would be in favour immediately
Ja LE
Ja LE 3 meses atrás
That’s why if your pick up always get buyer/seller to leave feedback
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
That was insightful, thank you. I haven't seen restocking ever. This seller never wanted to sell on eBay. It was a 15 feedback account with psapikachu bidding against 1-3 feedback shill bids.
Fernando Gutierrez
Fernando Gutierrez 4 meses atrás
Tells me that no one did any digging on verifying this box was legit but just purchased because they had the money to do so even if it meant losing. Good work dude!
ARCS
ARCS 3 meses atrás
Amazing call on the box being fake. You'd think as rich as logan is he'd have someone with even a little experience either be in his ear or even try to track down previous sellers. Great Video!
oramirez7725
oramirez7725 4 meses atrás
Fucking legend !!! This story will be told from generation to generations to come . Pokemon Legends of Rattle
Dirk Harms
Dirk Harms 4 meses atrás
Thanks for covering up the whole process, tracing it back to its origin, well done! It looks like a picturebook-story of how to turn something fishy into something "trustworthy"aka "authenticated". The original seller seems really sketchy...I'm sure that case is fake. Maybe we'll see a new boxfight next year: Logan Paul vs. number1pokemonmaster...
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Should be very soon as there are just a couple things I want to check beforehand.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
No problem and even more juicy details to come in the follow up video. ;)
Leo Henry
Leo Henry 4 meses atrás
I met the guy who sold this Pokemon first edition box to the guy who sold it to Logan Paul at the Collect-A-Con in Dallas. He sold a first edition Charizard to SashaT the sports card collector. The guy gave me bad vibes when I met him like something was just not right about him... I really hope Logan figures this all out! Btw I would reach out to SashaT he might be able to help bring more clarity to this seeing as he did business with them as well. Good luck!
TheWorldAgainstMe32
TheWorldAgainstMe32 4 meses atrás
Holy crap you were right. What does this say about all of these Pokemon "experts"?
Xinnie the Pooh
Xinnie the Pooh 4 meses atrás
BBCE lost all their credibility in a matter of seconds lmao
Shepherd RM
Shepherd RM 4 meses atrás
The company that did it was a joke he paid for that...the Pokebeach community couldve told him beforehand it was fake.
Justin Leeds
Justin Leeds 4 meses atrás
Is it 100% fact that bbce did not open the case, see the boxes with their own eyes, then re-wrap the box as Authenticated? Thats what most people, including myself, I believe thought happened. But if they didn’t open it and just wrapped over the “stop” wrap, then yeah that doesn’t say a whole lot.
ATHUL KRISHNAN
ATHUL KRISHNAN 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon u were ryt
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Not sure where that rumor started but no, they didn't open it at any point.
flychomperfly
flychomperfly 4 meses atrás
Awesome work. 👌 Thank you for this clear example of how to deduce truth from hype. Thank you!
ModestFlinch
ModestFlinch 4 meses atrás
You had me 1000% convinced this was fake and sure enough it was. Well done for calling it. 👏
Daniel Busch
Daniel Busch 3 meses atrás
You changed the Pokémon world great advice and content 👌
Nintendo Gaming Central
Those eBay terms and conditions actually do apply. One time I sold a computer and the customer said it was broken and filed a case on me. In the case she said she had gone to a repair shop and had the computer opened and looked at. Even though the computer most likely got damaged during shipping eBay did not give my buyer a refund because the item would be returned in a condition it was not sent in.
SilverFromJohto Pokémon
I sure hope he didn’t grab the case from silly ol’ collectibles guru 😆 but seriously, I’m not sure this box you’re displaying is the same that Logan bought but as a buyer I would want a personal deal done. It avoids fees, get a hands on deal with what you’re getting and I would immediately open the sealed case to ensure that all is legit inside. Screw the case in my opinion, I can easily replace that. The boxes however, the legitimacy matters more and I would be extremely aware of this entire situation because it involves BIG money. This is a huge transaction and it’s to be treated in a professional manner.
Nonny
Nonny 4 meses atrás
@SilverFromJohto Pokémon it’ll be a huge pokemon community mystery for sure, but it’s definitely 70/30 on being fake
SilverFromJohto Pokémon
@Nonny I doubt they’ll ever be able to authenticate this.
Nonny
Nonny 4 meses atrás
How can you authenticate something nobody on this planet has never seen, we were barely babies, this seems like something maybe an old WOC member can answer but we haven’t heard anything on their end if it’s legitimate or not
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
It's the same box. Can be traced all the way back and has identical blemishes.
Dustin Lee
Dustin Lee 4 meses atrás
Your a fucking hero !!! We need more people like you !!! Thank you for helping this world!!
Moko Koco
Moko Koco 4 meses atrás
The first red flag that I said before is that you will hardly find cases like that and being at that age. Nobody would had kept something that long in a warehouse
Brian King
Brian King 4 meses atrás
You nailed this, even your follow-up videos are perfect
Zeus Deuce
Zeus Deuce 4 meses atrás
Hear you earned yourself a case of prime from this one 😆 good stuff man
Ian Undercover
Ian Undercover 4 meses atrás
Baseball card exchange is the #1 authenticator of sealed boxes in the sports card world. I'm still with you on it likely being a repack scam, just giving context since you aren't familiar with them
JustAnother Nick
JustAnother Nick 4 meses atrás
Given the history of the buyer, how likely is it that the buyer is the scammer? Somehow repackages with GI Joe cards and the BBCE gets blame and someone pays up. Who made money on this in the end? The buyer acted really weird in the unboxing vid. I need to know more of the chronology but I would never trust that buyer with anything. And 3.5M is a lot to anyone.
MINGO STARR
MINGO STARR 4 meses atrás
@1hp yea they fkxd up
1hp
1hp 4 meses atrás
dam so they #1 and still authenticated a fake case, sucks to see
Tamakami
Tamakami 3 meses atrás
Now I get why someone asked how I got my Aquapolis pack when I sold it. I see the importance of the chain now.
PokeCruzin
PokeCruzin 4 meses atrás
Another great insight into the shambles of what Pokemon has to offer 😂🙈 interesting though! Want to find out if Logan rips it now 👀
vinh nguyen
vinh nguyen 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon G.I. JOE
Yaz O
Yaz O 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon g.i joe lol
PokeCruzin
PokeCruzin 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon me too! I’m Edgar to know!! I’m on the fence, could be either 🤷🏻‍♂️
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Would love to know what is in there.
Ali Chehab
Ali Chehab 4 meses atrás
Props to you for finding all of this! 👏
Poke N Fun
Poke N Fun 4 meses atrás
Coffee Zilla would be proud.... love your vids man this has to take a lot of work digging up the seedy underworld of Pokémon...but someone has to do it.... but I thought the opened it and authenticated the box the wrapped it..... so technically not sealed sealed.... but basically like VGA “qualified” where it was sealed but they opted it to authenticate it.....
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
They didn't open it. Just judged from the outside and probably weighed it.
flychomperfly
flychomperfly 4 meses atrás
Has anyone considered that this box could be one of those infamous changed 1st ed packaging -- the ones with the black triangle 🔺️ over-stamp? If this was one of the factories that still had 1st ed artwork on boxes and/or packs, and needed to alter it when changing over to unlimited, they may have labeled the box differently. Of course, the cards, themselves, would not be 1st eds then, but at least those black triangle packs are so rare. Then, there's the unlikely but possible situation that given there were multiple factories, no one knows if the other factory may have labeled their boxes slightly differently. I used to write articles about pokemon back then, and WotC told me there were multiple factories to handle the volume, and that artwork on everything from packs and boxes to the actual cards was not always in sync, and that changes made at one place were not always implemented simultaneously elsewhere. Of course, it could just be unlimited or a total scam, but people didn't believe there were real prototype cards until recently when a former WotC employee confirmed it.
flychomperfly
flychomperfly 4 meses atrás
@TapRackBangg- yes, but all possibilities must be considered. Until proven, it's all circumstantial, and that can put the wrong person in jail -- you would not want to be convicted on that. I was commenting only about the box since I have some info about that. As to the rest of the evidence...it was indeed extremely incriminating. Note that RP didn't want to say anything absolute bc there was still the possibility that there could be another logical explanation.
TapRackBangg
TapRackBangg 4 meses atrás
Total scam
Bradley Kampa
Bradley Kampa 4 meses atrás
This video is great for any eBay transaction in general. I will tell you, in order to avoid any issues with sellers trying to scam, ALWAYS video record your package openings. It has saved me several times from sellers trying to claim they can't have an item returned or refunded.
ׂ
ׂ 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon im not sure about that ive won a dispute from ebay about a month ago and attached videos and pictures to prove that the airpods i got from eBay were fake. and i got my money back. EDIT: also if that were true why would they even include a upload/attach files function on eBay disputes?
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
eBay won't watch or use a recorded packing or opening in a dispute.
Formula D
Formula D 4 meses atrás
Interesting situation all around ! Thank you for doing more research into this !
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Thanks for watching!
Kerry Gaines
Kerry Gaines 4 meses atrás
If you are a top rated seller & accept returns you can choose to give a partial refund (or in theory charge a restocking fee) however, you can’t do that with a 15 feedback account
Shepherd RM
Shepherd RM 4 meses atrás
I just realized the amount of damage this can do to the hobby. Because this is basically seen everywhere just prompting more scammers.
Josue Guzman
Josue Guzman 4 meses atrás
I feel bad, out there is some poor kid thinking he got 6 G.I. Joe boxes but they had pokemon cards inside :(
Zekes_TCG
Zekes_TCG 4 meses atrás
In the history of the world! This is crazy... interesting to see how this turns out. I'm sure if it is fake Logan will make 5m on the stream so it won't really matter.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Gabriel Rodriguez 4 meses atrás
@Xinnie the Pooh I mean he's not the one getting screwed, he got his 3M refunded plus millions of views over this. He came out with more money lol. I feel for the others who bought from the scammed though, it'll be difficult to get back...
Xinnie the Pooh
Xinnie the Pooh 4 meses atrás
@Ann l it’s couldnt have happened to a better person 😂😂💀💀 when he yelled “GI JOE!!!!!” I fucking lost it lmao
Zekes_TCG
Zekes_TCG 4 meses atrás
@Ann l GI Joe!
Ann l
Ann l 4 meses atrás
They turned out to be fakes🤯😱 They made a video opening it. So sad. Fked up.
Zekes_TCG
Zekes_TCG 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon yeah I don’t think he’d purposefully scam anyone. But the grand opening or however they decide to crack it will probably offset any loss incurred from ad, NfT, etc revenue 😂
Ali Chehab
Ali Chehab 4 meses atrás
If youre a Pokémon investor with 6 boxes would you really sell the case and remove all of your exposure or would you slowly sell off the boxes?
Sentry Robert Reynolds
Sentry Robert Reynolds 4 meses atrás
Whelp I will concur that my old case tag did fade and that my stop tape does look different then Paul’s tho mines isn’t as old obviously I do see the difference and I would like to look at Paul’s up close to confirm if it is indeed smudged which really would be impossible lol and measure the distance from stop to the signs..god I hope he didn’t just blow 3 mill
msftvsn
msftvsn 4 meses atrás
@nobrandonsclub you got your wish lmao. But he’s gonna get that back
Danny
Danny 4 meses atrás
U were right!!!! Props to you for finding all of this! 👏
Laura
Laura 4 meses atrás
You sir, are a genius. Props on calling it
xLazarusEnvy
xLazarusEnvy 3 meses atrás
Idk who this guy is but he nailed every single thing 100% beforehand. Only thing he didnt basically predict was the fact they'd be GI Joe cards lol
Brian Ellis
Brian Ellis 3 meses atrás
LOL STRAIGHT UP!! POKEMON DETECTIVE. 😭
widardd
widardd 4 meses atrás
Isn't there technology to look into the package? Like Xray, Spectroscopy etc. that could help? It's probably as cheap as everything else surrounding this thing so those could be enough to discover the dirty laundry in there.😂
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
If it's repacked like I expect that might not help.
Schaduw
Schaduw 4 meses atrás
Not interested at all in Pokemon cards, the market or Logan somehow. But noticed a news item in the Netherlands that stated that Logan purchased a probably faked package for 3.5M dollar and there was a link to your YT-channel. I can say that I should be doing some work, but I love these kind of investigations! Watched it completely with full interested on how you proceed this and what steps you take. It's crazy how anyone actually believes it is real. Keep up the good work! Probably not going to give a sub, as the other content doesnt interest me. But I'll be watching the rest of these episodes for sure!
o0QuAdSh0t0o
o0QuAdSh0t0o 4 meses atrás
He needs to take them out and get each box re-authenticated then seal it back up in a new case
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Doesn't look like that's going to happen.
PizzaNoodz
PizzaNoodz 4 meses atrás
G.I. Rattle righteously servicing the community! I salute you sir!
TheWoolyWolf
TheWoolyWolf 4 meses atrás
The fact that they hinted that they know how rare a booster box is (which hints that they know the true value of a base set 1st ed) and still accepted the $72k bid says something
TheWoolyWolf
TheWoolyWolf 4 meses atrás
@DJMPTV i know, they mentioned this in the video
DJMPTV
DJMPTV 4 meses atrás
@TheWoolyWolf they canceled the ebay sale
TheWoolyWolf
TheWoolyWolf 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon exactly what i was pointing out. They clearly know this item is worth way more than 72k but took whatever money they could which in this case in the auction at 72k which shows they were trying to sell off this fake thing at whatever price they could and dip because if it was actually a legitimate box, 72k wouldn’t even be considered.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
It was an auction and they wouldn't have sold for that highest 72k bid.
Ali Chehab
Ali Chehab 4 meses atrás
LEGEND! People criticized and attacked him for giving his opinion on why he thought this box was fake and he was right. 😬
Hanson032
Hanson032 4 meses atrás
Where do you see a single comment attacking him?
𝔖𝔢𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔷𝔞𝔷𝔞𝔢𝔩
You did a better job of authenticating an item you saw in a video, than the expert authenticator did while actually holding it in their hands.
Austin Duvall
Austin Duvall 4 meses atrás
Congrats bro you were right!! The cards were fake 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Logan lost 3.5 million dollars and I hope the wrong do-ers get their asses in alot of trouble!!
The Collector Dudes🤙
Great video! Thanks for bringing this to light!
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
My pleasure!
Nazar Rez
Nazar Rez 4 meses atrás
Your observation was just proven correct l, it’s insane! Makes it hard to trust anything within the Pokémon sellers community now :(
Jarrod Axia
Jarrod Axia 4 meses atrás
At 7:24 it looks like some of the ink on the table got on to the label. Maybe the seller was trying to make it look older than it is? Or was very careless?
Kyrie Alom
Kyrie Alom 4 meses atrás
PLOT TWIST! Rattle sold the box on eBay and he is the real mastermind! Only makes sense why he’s so informed.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
That would have saved me a lot of time and effort.
Brice C.
Brice C. 4 meses atrás
Awesome stuff man. I really want Logan to open it now.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Would be nice to find out what's in there.
Elliot
Elliot 4 meses atrás
So easy to pass when the seller can’t even write a description without butchering grammar and spelling. You can kinda tell what kind of person wrote this based on how the words are arranged.
Kane Gardner
Kane Gardner 4 meses atrás
Good call! Your channel deserves to blow up after this!
Chris - full time uk ebay seller
Some very good detective work and worth every view. 👏 👏 👏
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Thank you kindly
Ali Chehab
Ali Chehab 4 meses atrás
Holy crap you were right. What does this say about all of these Pokemon "experts"?
Kerry Gaines
Kerry Gaines 4 meses atrás
The number 1 red flag is the estate sale - it was her grandson’s box? What child has a sealed case of Pokémon cards? Also people say it’s their grandpas or grandmas item they passed. We’re having an estate sale. Not the grandchild lol. But my dad got me into collecting. He kept sealed boxes - I obviously did not. I was the only kid who even put their sports and Pokémon’s cards in sleeves and toploaders and didn’t play with them. I didn’t have the strength to keep a sealed pack much less a sealed box. Although I did recently sell some sealed packs of first edition Japanese yugioh cards - never knew what they were. Couldn’t read Japanese. No point in opening them
Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia 4 meses atrás
Amazing work your work is appreciated!!
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Thank you!
Kuya Goldlink
Kuya Goldlink 4 meses atrás
Wow, just the length of that estate sale story is enough to make me think it's a scam.
ShinKamaitachi
ShinKamaitachi 4 meses atrás
3.5 million for a bunch of GI Joe cards is insane.
zagpb
zagpb 4 meses atrás
Makes zero sense why you wouldn’t go to a reputable auction service and get the full value minus fees…. Plus they’d Authenticate it. I saw leonhart authenticate his booster box by having it opened… why would it lose value if its opened to confirm the contents.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Better than a sealed but extremely questionable case imo.
Jillian Vega
Jillian Vega 3 meses atrás
The sound of your voice is so soothing. It’s a great compliment to the inherent rage upon discovery of fraud . I hope u make a million dollars on this video
Justin Fyffe
Justin Fyffe 4 meses atrás
Right on man.... Everyone we need to get this guy to 5 million subscribers
Justin Brandt
Justin Brandt 3 meses atrás
Spot on dude, a theory (not mine) on how they were able to make the box, stickers, and tape look aged the same is lightly mist entire box with water. Then put it in a food dehydrator for a day or something, that's why the plastic wrapping on the actual pokemon boxes was bubbled and color on the Pokemon box faded.
Justin Brandt
Justin Brandt Mês atrás
@Mike Balla Jr Yep, same here(in regards to not being involved with trading cards). You have to love algorithm.
Mike Balla Jr
Mike Balla Jr Mês atrás
Oh yeah, I saw that guy's theory too, Callum upton. His video sorta started me down this rabbit hole. (What likely got one of these videos on my recommendations, since I'm not a trading card guy in any form.)
Yiannis Sakelaris
Yiannis Sakelaris 4 meses atrás
Bro as i said, NOBODY makes content like you do. Your shit is FIRE!!! Im literally going to drop your name everywhere brother. I LOVE how you go deeeeep into scenarios. Keep doing the THING!!!
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
Thanks so much!
Michael Wall
Michael Wall 4 meses atrás
In hind sight. After watching mellypops video about the purchase and seeing how Jacob sound when selling something it sounds very similar to the type of verbiage the original sellers eBay listing used.
Joseph
Joseph 4 meses atrás
Great video. I love internet detectives!!
Pokeverse
Pokeverse 4 meses atrás
Remember back in school when you didn't do your homework so you came up with a hugely detailed, ridiculous story to make it seem real? That's what the seller's first story seems like 😅
Pokeverse
Pokeverse 4 meses atrás
@Rattle Pokemon saw the second vid. Great work. You should make a TikTok, so many people using your work to go viral atm.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
The additional unnecessary details are something else. Lol
brews terps
brews terps 4 meses atrás
BBCE is very educated and trusted when it comes to vintage boxes and intertwined and in touch with these companies like topps, Pokémon and what is left of fleer (upper deck). Not saying they can’t be wrong but in the cardboard collectible hobby and business they do have one of the most bulletproof reputations.
brews terps
brews terps 4 meses atrás
@Jay Yavid wrong about what troll with no valid info to the discussion. They are intertwined within sports card companies along with being a contractor of PSA grading authenticate every Pokémon pack PSA grades so yes that would be considered educated and trusted . Clearly also said they could be wrong you skipped over that part or didn’t get to it
Jay Yavid
Jay Yavid 4 meses atrás
@brews terps kid you were dead ass wrong lmaooo some authentication love how this aged
Joe
Joe 4 meses atrás
Lol
Sammy S
Sammy S 4 meses atrás
CANCEL BBCE
kayle wiseman
kayle wiseman 4 meses atrás
Can't believe you called it! You sir are a wizard.
Chris Anderson
Chris Anderson 4 meses atrás
Maybe if he had hired rattle to authenticate his cards instead.. He would still have his money.
Alexanders VeryOwn
Alexanders VeryOwn 4 meses atrás
After all of this, Logan might pull a scummy move and keep it sealed and try to sell it for more then what he paid saying it's 100% legit.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Gabriel Rodriguez 4 meses atrás
Glad he opened it and exposed it!
msftvsn
msftvsn 4 meses atrás
@Alexanders VeryOwn this video by rattle Pokémon disproves your theory that this might be a publicity stunt. Logan doesn’t live in Canada.
Alexanders VeryOwn
Alexanders VeryOwn 4 meses atrás
@msftvsn yeah, just finished watching the video. Idk, all this might be a publicity stunt. He probably didn't even spend $3.5M. Who knows🤷‍♂️
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 4 meses atrás
No one should have trusted it to begin with, without it being opened.
Fishygamer16
Fishygamer16 3 meses atrás
Great job dude this is sick!!!
Scott
Scott 4 meses atrás
Plot twist: The GI Joe packs are actually re-sealed and do truly contain the 1st edition Pokémon cards!
mike jones
mike jones 4 meses atrás
I would have asked him what a state sale they were purchased from
Premier Card Shop
Premier Card Shop 4 meses atrás
Don’t understand the point in keeping the case sealed. Pokemon is not like sports cards. In sports, you get a “Case Hit” meaning finding a sealed case is more valuable. Pokemon does not work the same way. There’s no case hits. Case should be opened and each box authenticated.
Premier Card Shop
Premier Card Shop 4 meses atrás
@CO_Snowy If the "case" was sent to authentication and each box was opened and authenticated then resealed, I would value that MUCH higher than just a "sealed" case.
CO_Snowy
CO_Snowy 4 meses atrás
Even if it’s open it todays age there is NO 100% authentication unless you open the box then what’s the point hahahah
Elliott James
Elliott James 4 meses atrás
Exactly what I was thinking
Jack Windrammer
Jack Windrammer 4 meses atrás
I lived in Gainesville for a few years and am still somewhat local. Meelypops is a good store with fair prices and the guys are nice but god damn do they come across as some absolute idiots on this. Very childlike.
Keith
Keith 2 meses atrás
Im coming back to this video today for a long car ride. Dont they make like fine óptic wires as small as a needle with cameras they could poke the smallest hole and actually get eyes inside, withought breaking any kind of seals for situation like this when theres doubt of the content of a sealed Item? Just a thought.
Rattle Pokemon
Rattle Pokemon 2 meses atrás
maybe that's why there were half-ass fake boxes inside
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