Why Ireland Split into the Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland

@Mini Duo Ireland was a "thing" long before its invasion, colonisation and partitioning. Ireland was united in many ways before the Norman/British invasion of the 1100s. 1. Ireland was united before the coming of the Brits/Normans in 1169 as we had one law for the whole island i.e. Brehon Law. This particular law was in place for 1000 years and was first set down on parchment in the 7th century. This law was operational in Ireland until the completion of the English conquest of Ireland in the early 17th century. Brehon Law is seen today as very advanced for that time. Brehon Law is hugely important and not to be overlooked as insignificant. Brehon Law was very advanced for that era and was even in use right up until the 17th century before the Brits took hold. 2. The whole island was united linguistically as we all spoke Archaic/Old Irish. The Irish language is around since the Bronze Age and is about 2,500 years old. We all shared the Irish language so were linguistically entwined. 3. We were united both culturally and socially, too all the while operating under one law. One's culture is based firmly around many different parts of everyday life and pre-Norman invasion, Gaelic Irish style of dress, music, dance, sport, social gathering, architecture, and art was nationwide. We had unity albeit political unity, but where and when, even today, has politics ever been united!? Are the folks in Westminster united? Are the folks in the Dáil Éireann united? I think not. The truth is the British invasion destroyed our laws and language therefore creating division - the invasion tried to divide the people and successfully partitioned the island. Ireland was united in many ways before the British arrived and will be reunified when Britain leaves.

Damn, thats VERY IMPRESSIVE.

@Grumpy OldMan yes my thoughts exactly. Whilst it was very detailed I still found myself repeating so certain parts of the video. The parts I did interesting though. If I watch this 10 more times I ll be upto scrathch

Irish history is over 7000 years and way much older...1000 years is actually the English history

@john doe Yes thats absolutely correct. . In fact I read that it was the Presbyterians who first celebrated St Patricks Day in the new country in the early days before anyone else even thought about it

@Evelyn McCabe :: And the Presbyterians that left and settled in the American Colonies, were not Crown-Loyalist, they rebelled against the Crown, and fought for Independence in their newly adopted homeland.

@Beau Caspar :Southern Ireland (Munster) and Eastern Ireland (Lenister) were settled by Anglo Normans, but they were not "Sectarian-Terrorists" and assimilated well into the Irish way of life, and became more Irish than the Irish themselves.

Well said Glili, well said!

@Thomas Murray aye, things just aren’t gr8 atm lol

@Gimli Gloinson Oh yeah of course, same in Glasgow and the North of England/Wales. Turns out gutting the main industries and not replacing them with anything is a bad idea. Banking was priority and currently a few of their friends are making a lot of money by betting on failure, so that's now the new thing.

@Thomas Murray yeah, tho NI current economic situation rn is mostly due to the industry that used to make us the richest part of Ireland getting far less demand and then the troubles putting the nail in the coffin. However now it’s just going further downhill with parliament seemingly trying to actively destroy the UK’s economy

@Sean Magee : Is the 3-counties of Ulster, that are in the Republic of Ireland "Separatists", or is it the 6-counties of Ulster that are in the UK "Separatists"???

@john doe The whole world has suffered Colonial Persecution and oppression. :(

All that violence because of the lust of one man. 😃😃

@MADMANB68 Limerick? They'll leave ye in stitches.

the only irishman i know is niall horan (one direction), and if according to your commented here yeah i saw him always full of laughing, but when i saw a town called Mullingar (?) it seems to me like a sleepy town. was it right?

Ireland is the best and Irish has big heart, not doubt.

Maybe ill be the first after this ....Im a small time Irish youtube who has a channel about Ireland , From walking , drones and Cycling around the city and even hikes in the beautiful countryside , im sorry to hop in on another persons video and try steal focus , but im mainly targeting those who love Ireland and want to visit or who have visted and see if they may like my content , As i said im small so it might not be the best quality and no where near as much detailed informaiton as this channel , but its Quaint ... and some stupid jokes thrown in for fun lol

@MADMANB68 Ha! Limerick lads have a great sense of humour and will leave you in stitches!

@Born in the woods ::The 6-County Sectarian Statlet set up by the Imperial Crown, 1922 is the "Dunbas of Ireland". Ireland was England's first colony, and the 6-Counties of North-East Ireland (East Ulster) are a colony-hangover, and will be a permanent headache for 10-Downing Street.

@swisspiss they could get a boat and return to Scotland

@mikeshogunlee I would agree with your opening paragraph. That said, I don't see the British not caring about Northern Ireland even though many of the populace are thinking that way because of Brexit. Certainly, the three or more million citizens of Northern Ireland would not benefit from Britain turning them loose as the whole welfare and healthcare system would be lost. Everything from unemployment benefits to pensions would have to be taken over by the Irish government and they solely rely on the EU to fund many of theirs as it is. Take into account that many Irish south of the invisible border want no part of Northern Ireland would require much consideration also. There is no doubt that a turning point of some sort is coming as the winds of change are in the air. With Ireland's history being well documented it would be foolish to think that it will come without violence on some level as the Irish people are a nation that will fight on the streets for what they believe and never go down without one.

@Adam Gillespie silly they were all british. No religeous all under king.

@dave h UK rented Hong Kong for 99yrs

@EdMcF1 :Yes, they founded the cities of Dublin, Waterford, and Limerick. They assimilated and became More Irish than the Irish Themselves.

@EdMcF1 you could even make the argument that the norwegians are a major reason william the conquerer was successful in his invasion of england which set this whole thing up

Doubt you'll be able to understand it any more than we Brits do.

@Runnin'N'Gunnin' Sweden and Finland shared hundreds of years of history worth knowing, no?

@oya Ami - You really are clueless. Britain, France, Spain, and the Netherlands established colonies in North America. Each country had different motivations for colonization and expectations about the potential benefits. When the irish emigrated there in large numbers following the irish famine, the irish were treated like slaves and were not welcome by the protestant ruling class.

@oya Ami You sound very confused, when Irish Catholics went to the USA the country was already taken over by... Protestants from the UK, who did most of the damage against Native Americans. Those Irish immigrants ended up being treated like second class citizens in the US too, because they were a threat to the WASP dominant culture, seen as wanting to work for lower wages, and other reasons.

They were of all cultures. Ppl go to England every day to find better life just as they did USA back then

Up the road from me, we still call it Little Scotland

A good few folks from the area I grew up (Motherwell in Lanarkshire, Scotland) moved down to Corby to work in the local heavy industries, due to all the Steelworks etc in our area being cut back and eventually closed. Not surprised the shirts of Glasgow's 'Ugly Sisters' were selling well.

I worked in Corby for two years and what struck me was the amount of Rangers and Celtic kits being worn in a town in middle England, so much so that the JD Sports were selling the kits! Also the children/grandchildren of the Scottish immigrants born and raised in Corby had a Scottish twang to their accents, was bizarre lol!

I know theres a huge Scottish presence there, but irish?! Never heard that one before...

@GalaxyRed dude..... the famine as created in large part by British land owners abusing farm land they owned in Ireland. Britian also just stood by and watched Irish people die in millions when the famine did happen. These comments are mind blowing ignorant of history.

So find a more detailed video /source.

@Brian Dooley cope

Jim Holloway A reaaon i think Ireland rebelled against britain was because of how unresponsive Britain were against the famine in Ireland. Our population at that time was 8 million and rising quickly until The Famine came along.

@Son Goku Ireland is a very confusing country to understand. In terms of ROI the Pale was just Greater Britain. The Anglo-Norman territories were mostly willing partners with Britain (e.g. Waterford, Wexford) but nevertheless assimilated fully into Irish culture. The Gaelic territories in the West and South of Ireland that were not conquered by the Anglo-Normans, the 'true Irish' in some cultural sense, are the regions that wanted independence the most, these are the areas that rebel with France, and Irish Americans mostly descend from these areas. After the famine when the Gaelic communities were destroyed, they successfully co-opted the Anglo-Norman cities and conquered the Pale out of revenge, essentially. Now ROI overwhelmingly embraces their particular historical journey and perspective.

Hell *I’m* confused and I’m from the mainland.

@Lanna's Missing Link True. And they all ride their own sisters.

No point in going on about these type things best off forgetting about leave things be

@Anti Anglo-Saxon what did the queen do to you?

@Anti Anglo-Saxon That was kinda random.

Damn, you're like James from Derry Girls...

I had similar, moving from Limerick to London when I was 11 although there were many Irish kids in my school in London

@G W An irish american is an american whos seven times great grandfather didnt spit on the first irishman he met.

@617bred actually he's 100% Irish by ancestry while you're 25% Irish by ancestry.

@G W so he's about as Irish as I am over here in Boston with a grandmother born in Ireland. Being Irish in England and Irish in America is basically the same thing.

@freneticness No one, in any nation EVER ate just one thing. England was offloading livestock and grain as well. It was a forced famine. Wake up, it's 2023.

GGG 777 Because getting Northern Ireland means getting the people living in it too. If Ireland can get Northern Ireland without the people, I'm sure them Irish will want it in a heartbeat.

Great videos! I feel so well informed and appreciate your scholarly endeavor

+Rico Suave not the same mate dutch are Germanic people, Scottish are mostly Celtic like the Irish

Same her Mr. Keep up the excellent work!

Well... pretty near Glasgow. It's definitely the closest city to where I'm from.

Well keep going Mr. Are you from Glasgow? I'm also a Scot- nice to hear our accent online.

@Áḋaṁ Mac Gréagóir some say tomato an all that aye!!, so why am i dumb then?, so thats not a viking rune also that was used by a scandinavian ss division that was also complicit in genocide then?, and theres me thinking hitler was just a misunderstood budist at heart.... I really must be dumb then, what is dumb is pretending to be a fake irish man who cant even spell his surname correctly... Egit...

You're Scotch Irish! I'd refer you to the documentary "Born Fighting".

@Kevin Kehoe i agree, that this for(u)m does not really make progressive discussions possible with @ sign, as the post is not explicitly named. just ignore... : P

@erwin zimmermann and what point is that, something about executing deserters was it?

@Kevin Kehoe you did not even got the point.

@Kevin Kehoe No worries!

@Colin Campbell whoops ,apologies 🤦‍♂️

@normal guy well said, something tells me she didnt have the loyalist irish people in mind, i bet she didnt even know they existed, she just thinking those poor irish getting bullied by them nasty british..GSTK brother...

Alicia Nyblade from Belfast a loyal Ulster man and I thank you for your kind words.

@Tran Duy He was more than likely a Glasgow Rangers supporter. Those people are the worst.

I have met and worked with two people from the UK in my life: one from Wales and the other from Scotland. The first person was OK but the second (from Scotland) was selfish, arrogant, stubborn and mean. He didn't get along with other people and had to leave after one year.

It’s an English name.

bro wtf

I forgot to tell you what year, sorry! I believe it was in the late1776 or 1777!

Who would subsidise Northern Irelands independence? Northern Ireland has been heavily subsidised by England since the 1930s. Currently £10bn per year.

Nope

@t.rok1 in what way? XD

I agree for the most part. But the history of the illegal British invasion and the living Hell that was created for the people is very troublesome and should not have ever happened. That wrong needs to be fairly and legally, made Right.

Yeh same here, when it finished I was still confused about what's going on over there, I'm from New Zealand but living in Australia now if that helps explain my confusion over this issue.

Same hard to listen to

@Jacquie Walton Agreed, MOST OF THEM WHERE IRISH AND COULDN’T HAVE GIVEN A FLYING FART OVER THE PLIGHT IF THEIR FELLOW COUNTRY MEN WHO WERE STARVING. A classic example of I’m alright Jack.

@Old Edwardian ..." The second, much larger group of landlords was made up of about 10,000 absentee landlords who never or only rarely saw their estates in Ireland. They lived in England, typically in London, spending their rental income over there. Absentee landlords had no interest in their land other than it making them money."

@Old Edwardian I didn't lay blame on anyone, I clearly said that "Professor Niall Ferguson wrote" ....Go look it up

@Annie Grath do you believe what you're saying? because its just false

@Daniel Bentham again you’re wrong,the majority hold Irish passports the unionist population applied for Irish passports in there droves after Brexit on the advise of Paisley.

@Annie Grath the majority have British passports thus British citizenship

@Daniel Benthamno majority identify as British as there is no majority now, it’s actually 50/50.

@Derpy octopus there is one rugby team because the IRFU did not split when Ireland was partitioned. Partition was supposed to be a temporary measure to be resolved later There are separate football (soccer) teams

Pretty soon you will all be one people again. If the British government continues to push its luck.

Haha yeah that's great I'm from the south. Northerners are great, glad that something like that can be said now without having to worry about my car being blown up

alannapower21 thanks so much for your reply!! ♥️

Ireland in the 60's did not like anything taboo and tended to avoid mentioning such things. If taboos needed to be talked about, they were simply referred to as "troubles". The fighting up the North got stuck with it as a name.

oh nieve americans

I live in a city that had 400 murders in 2020 ,i been capped myself cutty.i said a humble prayer.you must drinking Killiens Red at the pub .your comment os as distasteful as your choice of beer ..i bind you in the namme of San Antonio Shanus or watever that midevil name is .lol

Thank you!

2 countries*

Now we need another one just to follow what happens with Brexit, lol

Sam O'Connor ..?

Shame on you

E dirty unionist doesn’t have quite the same ring to it

E I don’t have a problem with Protestants. I have a problem with their views. Those views almost always are linked to Protestants

@E.A. P I agree. However, you must remember that for some, Protestant and Catholic are more about identities. Just because somebody calls themselves X doesn't mean they are. So, that leaves quite a few so-called believers and non-believers.

As a Christian you cannot have hatred in your heart for anyone. Unfortunately too many Christians don’t pay attention to the teachings of Christ.

@E.A. P If that's your point, then I agree. However, this level of hatred is probably being handed down from generation to generation. Your reality is what you are born into. People use their side of the fence to define their identify. It's now ingrained in them. There's few people who have that level of hatred and suddenly have an epiphany and decide to stop hating and teach peace. This is more of a hearts-and-minds scenario. That's why neither Ireland nor the UK can completely have their way. There has to be the right compromises on both sides. It's interesting seeing other peoples views on this, especially those who think it's very black and white or cut and dried. It shows a naivete revealing that the observer has never been in true long term conflict either with family / friends / nations. I'm not saying that's you by the by - just others making unhelpful comments. I agree with what you mean by Christian - the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Also, those that have hatred in their heart are certainly further from being Christians. I'm Irish and living in the South and have cousins up North. It's apples and oranges in terms of experiences and outlook between us and we're both born Catholics. I would imagine that both the Northern protestants and the British probably have a similar misalignment. While I have a modicum of national pride, I do respect our British neighbours and was proud when the queen came to visit Ireland many years ago with that passing off without a hitch. From my perspective, I found it healing for both sides.

@J yes I know I have a friend who is from the "north of Ireland" as he puts it, and I have friends from Ireland, my friend from the North of Ireland hates absolutely anything English, he couldn't even be gracious about the passing of the Queen. My other Irish friends have great relations with the English, one even served in the British army. My point is how are you going to ever solve the hatred, if you don't make conscious start to stop hating. Both sides in the North in my view bring shame to Jesus Christ, neither side in my view is Christian but in name only and the pervert the name of our Saviour.

Who cares.

They sound like Americans. Unless you were born and raised in Ireland, or you have Irish citizenship and no other, you are not Irish.

@Lumine So you believe that by dieing on the cross and rising again that Jesus saved all humanity and that everything Jesus said about needing to be being born again is wrong?

@Cy Jones Both. However we have had protestant nationalists ( who would never have called themselves catholic), the political positions are better labelled nationalist and unionist. I am protestant by heritage and by religion. I am a born again Christian, and I come from 2 born again Christian's who also have a protestant heritage. There are protestants and Catholics who are that by religion, but we also have catholic atheists and protestant atheists. Living here, the joke makes perfect sense. Being protestant or catholic is decided by your family background, and their family background etc if you are an atheist. If you don't get it, don't worry, we don't expect you to. It's an in joke.

In Belfast in the 80s that question isn't about religion at all. It's about whose side you're on in a political struggle. If you supported Irish independence and didn't believe in God, you'd indeed be a "catholic atheist", even if that makes no sense in any other context

Heard it before but it's still just as funny! 😁☘️

@Norn Iron Man it is

Don't worry....after 10 pints of Guinness it will start to make sense.....

And Guinness isn't even an Irish drink......

Dont blame you, i took an aspirin and went to sleep. My dream was clearer of the history.. i cud understand the naration🙂🙂

@italian empire yep.

@Jarrin Root common sense is not a high priority when considering independence. Did you know in 1995 49.4% voted for independence in a referendum in Quebec?

@italian empire I wouldn't advise independence for any provinces in my country, wouldn't work too well.

Some people just want out, and see the overall governement as an opressor. Even when they aren't. A lot of people in Scotland hate the UK and believe they are being controlled by england (Westminster) and having laws forced on them by an alien government. But most laws are made in Scotland. Common sense files out the window when nationalism is involved. Look at your own country. Parts of Canada want independence. Enemies spring up for very little reason and hatred becomes all consuming.

@Jim Rubadue okay. What does that have to do with the comment though.

uk and Ireland are the same thing

based

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@Lyla Clark Shaped them? In to what?

An Irish Catholic Canadian? Whats one of them when it's at home? 🏡?

From a British point of view, Irish history is worth your time as the Irishman/Canadian that you are hope you make time for the details of the famine etc etc that shaped the Irish coz of British Politics, indifference and, their spin on history through the centuries

Be proud of your country

Literally colonialism. That’s as legitimate as saying Ireland is just a tribal nation. Much of Northern Ireland wishes to be a part of the United Kingdom, this is self determination, it’s voluntary and not by force.

@Jordan Phoenix So you are saying that you saw London buses in Northern Ireland ? May I suggest you leave the crack pipe alone in future before travelling to a different country.

@Derek Ferguson They look quite different from eachother just look up comparisons between a london bus and a dublin/ bus eiren bus

That's like with any country😂 Live in Seattle drive up north and suddenly your using different currency see different flags and different busses!

What the fuck is a British bus exactly ? Are the buses in the Republic Irish buses ?

@WOR53L G what are you on about?

It is Cahill not CaHill. It is also an extremely common surname throughout Ireland. Every American with 1% or less irish blood think they’re related to us all! We are not a tiny island but a nation of 5 million people.

the uk basically owns ireland

Yes, very true, yet we still say things like down south. Makes me laugh when I think about it.

@Eoin Wilson Brits always say Southern Ireland, it drives me mad!

@Snap 'n' Shoot It's also wrong to say English rather than British as they full well know. They do that to make the English look like the 'baddies' and the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish Protestants have always been forced by the English to go along with anything and everything that England tells them. 'The Big Bad Wolf' 🐺 🤣

@Supreme 321 not true. Malin Head in County Donegal is the most northerly point on the island of Ireland

@cacambo If we're Northern Ireland, then the free state southerners are Southern Ireland and as an irishman I'll never change that language to suit southern partitionist mindset

indeed

They don’t teach you what they don’t want you to know ,think about that ?

To much bad history no good in gossiping about it now

Poseidons Trident we might not have fought but that’s cus we had lost so many people over hundreds of years and weren’t gonna lose more innocent people and we still haven’t gotten to the same number of people as before the famine no thanks to the british

The Irish have always stood up for those who need help...we still do it today with pride

@Jake and wat do u hav to say about the british deciding not to help the irish during the famine and forcing a million ppl to starve

@Eoin Wilson you said you gained independence from a country 10 times your size, you didnt win it by fighting, you lost every rebellion you had so the ira started bombing innocent children and civilians instead.

The entire island was one giant farm and people still think all that starvation was from the loss of a side dish. Now that’s efficient propaganda.

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​@Just Some Nut Again. World War 2. You can't blame the UK for being unable to help during World War 2. It is retardation to suggest otherwise. That is why 1943 is irrelevant. And the Bengal Famine 1770 (1769-1773). I don't know enough about. I do know that Bengal was under control of the British East India Company which only objective was to bring a large profit. So wasn't under the direct control of the UK. But doesn't really matter. The heavy taxation imposed by the BEIC obviously caused more death. The Irish Potato famine? I still back the British. And I am Irish. There was much death across Europe from the Potato blight. Not just Ireland. The British for warned the Irish and produced seeds for them to grow. The Irish didn't listen.The rest of the UK was having Famine issues as well. Sure the UK likely took more than they should of off the Irish. As I say. The UK is not innocent in the Irish Potato Famine but the Irish are not innocent either.

@VenomousCompany take 1770 as well 10 million dead

@Norn Iron Man during the famine Catholics could convert to Protestantism to not starve to death, seems a bit oppressive if you ask me

@Norn Iron Man No one calling themselves Norn Iron Man can credibly talk about the position of Irish Catholics in the UK -most especially while simultaneously suggesting that they didn't suffer any oppression which is a strong word more appropriate to the mid nineteenth century and before. The Irish leaders called on Irishmen to fight having been promised Home Rule which they didn't get when the time came. That is the thanks they got. However there have always been Englishmen whose hearts are in the right place and you had an opportunity there to remain silent while a couple of them spoke.

Oppressed? Give me a break! My Catholic ancestors weren't oppressed and several of them joined the British Army well before WW1 too. The truth is much more nuanced than many believe and Irish Republicans would rather you not know it was hardly as simple as that.

@Jacksil Jackson I think it was disrespectful that no home back at one even thanked them which is kind of sad in a way.

Louth is not in NI...

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@Christophe Bonhoeffer Of Belgravia I have polish in me as well yes lol thankyou!

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Lol

History for americans started in 1776.

@Thomas O'Connell Yep, met an American in Houston that asked me if New Zealand was a province of Canada. When I said "southern hemisphere" she replied "oh, South Africa". I let it go as a Province of Canada just to get the cheque cashed.

@Thomas O'Connell but the like fighting others people's war

Haven't met many Americans that have been thought basic global geography and history. Its like it doesn't matter because it's not American. Recently met a girl who unsurprisingly had no clue of the difference between Ireland and The UK and thought Paris was a country. Her friend also thought India was in Africa. Both study in a university in the US. American education is completely ignorant to supplying a basic level of global geography because, well it's not America so why should they care?

And what’s with this guys accent. Can’t understand a frkn word...

In short, we are a backward kip ruled by the EU

@Loto It makes sense for the education system to focus more on their own regional history. In Northern Ireland we get the best of both worlds because we learn about some Irish history and some overall British history.

@ImmortalTyrant2 it's not obvious to people who live in the UK and therefore don't learn it. I mean specifically the history between Ireland and England

Well, obviously.