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Warhammer 40k: Lost Crusade is Heresy

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It is the 41st Millennium, and there is only War! (and monetisation).

Warhammer 40k: Lost Crusade is a mobile city builder / hero upgrader / idle game where you guide your lost space marine fleet home to, presumably, have tea and crumpets with the Emperor.

It's actually quite high quality.

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Labor Days
Labor Days 2 meses atrás
"I love everything about Warhammer. Except for Games Workshop." Hits deep, brother.
Daniel Codd
Daniel Codd Mês atrás
I fell out with GW back in the 00's. The writing was on the wall back then. They're the Nintendo of tabletop gaming.
Archangel M127
Archangel M127 Mês atrás
Pretty much everyone I've ever talked to about 40K says exactly this.
Marked Ashamed
Marked Ashamed 2 meses atrás
Garbage Wreckshop is pretty horrible.
Alex Mack
Alex Mack 2 meses atrás
As an old LotR SBG player, I feel this deeply.
Qefx
Qefx 2 meses atrás
Why? I think it is cool that almost everyone can make a game! Better than what Disney does... We have cool games! Warhammer vermintide, warhammer 3 (coming out soon) and others!
Marcus Alm
Marcus Alm 2 meses atrás
There is something nostalgic about seeing a British man, known for MMO games, ripping into a Warhammer 40k game for being anti consumer.
Dumpinator
Dumpinator 3 dias atrás
Rest in peace total biscuit. May the FOV sliders be wide.
Nereosis
Nereosis Mês atrás
I think he should start checking for FOV sliders and then the process will be complete
GmodCaboose56
GmodCaboose56 2 meses atrás
Yeah, I immediately thought of TotalBiscuit. Man, it's crazy it's been that long. :(
2dumd2live
2dumd2live 2 meses atrás
The fact that it is more expensive to assemble a decent army in this mobile game than when you buy actual models from GW has me in shock. On some level that feels like it should be impossible
TheMygoran
TheMygoran Mês atrás
Hits deep man
Ride of the Red Menace
W H A T
Jagrofes
Jagrofes 2 meses atrás
“I’ve not been this disappointed since Dawn of War 3” That’s 3d6 mortal wounds.
Jagrofes
Jagrofes 7 dias atrás
@Milkymalk If you are interested in a decent 40K game, Battlesector is a pretty decent Turn Based Tactics game (Kinda like X-Com but with squads).
Milkymalk
Milkymalk 7 dias atrás
Gladius was horrible too. Make a 4X game and take away everything but the part that is the most difficult to get right: Combat. I have never played a game that is so slow and uneventful.
Cameron Snell
Cameron Snell 9 dias atrás
More like a coup de grace
Neiasaurus Creations
Neiasaurus Creations 15 dias atrás
@Dustin Barlow Dawn of war 3 is a handicapped kriegs guardsman on krieg.
Dustin Barlow
Dustin Barlow 28 dias atrás
Ha ha ha nice! I felt that though, DoW 3 should have go clear it's "shame" by dying in battle taking back an lost Imperial Forge World!
fnglert
fnglert 2 meses atrás
"... as telling an Eldar player they'll be getting new models any day now" - ok, that more than anything showed me that you're a true 40k fan.
Bob Boyle
Bob Boyle 2 dias atrás
They got new models
fnglert
fnglert 7 dias atrás
@KuroKuma is the best Not a fan of the fast-but-squishy playstyle or the conehead aesthetic, they do have cool lore though. My jam is Necrons.
KuroKuma is the best
KuroKuma is the best 7 dias atrás
@fnglert why do you personally not like the Eldar?
Erik Stangerup
Erik Stangerup 7 dias atrás
hilariously ironic as of now
VorpalDerringer
VorpalDerringer 8 dias atrás
Eldar are getting a huge refresh first quarter 2022...
Sam Delao
Sam Delao 2 meses atrás
“The Codex Astartes does not support this” has never rung more true. GW easily could have made a killing simply by making an Imperial Knights version of Steel Battalion or BattleTech.
Dávid Csutak
Dávid Csutak 2 dias atrás
They probably still make a bunch of money with this shitty game as well
FreedomFighterEx
FreedomFighterEx 2 meses atrás
I'm familiar with a lot of shady and trickery gacha games are doing here in Asia but damn, that part about hiding the total amount of crystals you have in the upgrade screen at 21:50 is the new low to me. It is just sad that we aren't being seen as a valued customer anymore. In their view, we are just a pile of resources waiting to be exploited by any means necessary.
stitch77100
stitch77100 2 meses atrás
"I love everything about 40K... EXCEPT Games Workshop." Couldn't agree more. You summarised my entire feelings about this game (and what used to be Warhammer fantasy battle and the other older games) in just ONE SENTENCE. The Emperor is pleased with this one.
Daniel Codd
Daniel Codd Mês atrás
Age of Sigmar was a crime against humanity. Entire Fantasy armies rendered garbage by GW.
NNextremNN
NNextremNN 2 meses atrás
"I love everything about 40K except Games Workshop" perfectly explains my opinion. 270 £ to get all heroes? That's surprisingly cheap for a gacha game. Nice catch with the crystal hiding thing.
Dean Varney
Dean Varney 2 meses atrás
270 x 100, give or take. As you need to rank up said heroes to even be useable and you need shards, or to find the hero again (worth roughly 10 shards) you need about 40 shards for rank 1, 60 for rank 1 and so on. I'm someone has done that math out there but it's worse once you get into the system and realize how bad it really is.
Virck
Virck 2 meses atrás
"The Codex Astartes does not support this decision(action)" That's too damn good, Josh is a true man of many cultures.
ViciousVinnyD
ViciousVinnyD 2 meses atrás
21:43 Deliberately hiding your account balance whenever you are able to buy something is super scummy and manipulative. Thanks for spotting that easy to miss detail they sneaked in.
BluishGnome
BluishGnome 2 meses atrás
Oh man, I played this game for about 3-4 months, the first month being completely sucked into it (and purchasing the $5 second build queue BS,) and then eventually treating it like a daily 20 minute chore until the end where I realized I didn't log in for a week and didn't care. What kept me going that long was the Alliance that I randomly joined, which just happened to be the second strongest on our new-ish server. That was the best aspect of this game, honestly. But, these types of games are made exactly the same as they have been for over a decade and the whales pretty much blew all competition out of the water, bullying the smaller Alliances, and basically dominating the sector. My Alliance held out, offering what miniscule competition we could. Then there came a point about 3 months in where it seemed like an all out war was about to break loose. A shadow council of abused Alliances versus the oppressor. Our leader messaged us early one the morning telling us to prepare for imminent war. That was the first bit of excitement I felt in this game, queuing up hundreds of troops, stocking up on combat items, researching all the military tech. And then the time came. And nothing. Apparently, the top brass of the different Alliances in play got together, forged an agreement, and now my Alliance was basically the top dogs' lap dog. They forced a Discord merger so they could keep tabs on us. They sent one of their members to join our Alliance so they had an eye on us. And our leaders just went along with it to "preserve the peace in the sector." So disappointing, which is exactly how I would label this game. All that time and effort and it all just turned into a sad old neckbeard's recreation of high school lunchroom politics.
BobMcBobJr
BobMcBobJr 16 horas atrás
Yeah, they get people with addiction. But, interestingly addiction (without the use of drugs) only lasts a few days, so if you quit playing for a week you'll realize you didn't like it.
The One And Only Exotic Butters
Yeah, it was pretty much the exact same for me. I got tired of the top alliance wiping my armies and losing none of their troops so I said fuck this game, I’m done and dipped from the game. Haven’t logged back on since.
Silverblade
Silverblade 2 meses atrás
I had the second most powerful clan on the game in our server, and i made it while being free to play, managing with diplomacy and the outstanding effort of the team, it took 3 whales and one lie from the 4th clan to fuck up everything, and the 1st clan to destroy the competition conveniently ignored the rules we all agreed on "server wide" the survivors merged with the 3rd best clan and we waged a mass crusade against the server that felt like the Horus heresy all over again crippling everything and letting it rot... The MFs paid their way out of the grave and restored most of the clans... And basically putting baby clans that are all allied with each other... So the server is a vegetable in a coma
Silverblade
Silverblade Mês atrás
@Julian E.M Farias lol, i have covered pretty much almost every major role in the Horus heresy, it was a blast let me tell you, but it didn't last long, and i had like 2-3 hours of sleep every day for a week to keep the heads rolling
Silverblade
Silverblade Mês atrás
@Julian E.M Farias i served the server with my inner circle, someone decided i wasn't fit for the role, He didn't win, but convinced some whales with dreams of grandeur, believed to have won but Still underestimated my influence in the server, After a week of their management, hell knows how many factions have formed in protest, However we managed to mount an opposition strong enough to cripple the server
Julian E.M Farias
Julian E.M Farias Mês atrás
The Server end up like The Emperor. Its funny, you made a Horus Heresy and the server became the Emperor
Hrodulf
Hrodulf 2 meses atrás
This feels just like raid, from the opening cinematic to the battle system. If only these games were meant to be fun instead of being frustrating.
Isori
Isori Mês atrás
How to design a modern mobile game: ask the people to pay for the "privilege" of paying more. So kind, those robb-- I mean, developers.
Mik Con
Mik Con 2 meses atrás
Auto play is such a strange thing to have in any game, why bother having the action at all if you can just choose not to do it? Also they seriously required more input to "claim" things after the battle than in the actual battle.
Mik Con
Mik Con 2 meses atrás
@Clayton Grubbs I'm shocked, seems like the type of game that transitions from auto-win to pay-to-win. You can appreciate the skill of someone who beat bloodbourne but so far if someone beat Raid: W40k legends id mainly be curious how much it cost and whether it was challenging at all.
Candy’s Channel
Candy’s Channel 2 meses atrás
@Clayton Grubbs do you have a video on it showing this btw? Also, can you explain more since I assumed no manual battle was in the game.
Jet4455
Jet4455 2 meses atrás
I mean autoplay is fine for games that focus entirely on team building and pre fight planning, but those games are more strategy game and need to have a large amount of diverse abilities, attack patterns, etc.. to work. This game has none of these features tho.
Clayton Grubbs
Clayton Grubbs 2 meses atrás
He fails to show it in the video but the auto-battle has time multipliers. You won't be using auto-battle on later levels because you have to strategically time your hero skills and troop drops. Also, he exaggerated the drops and there are buttons to claim everything.
Megatherium
Megatherium 2 meses atrás
Because you are not looking at a game as such but something more akin to a slot machine. A dopamine drip if you will.
Lowkey Arki
Lowkey Arki 2 meses atrás
"I love the universe of 40k, games workshop not so much" Yup summarizes the collective feelings of the community.
Ulrick Guiliman
Ulrick Guiliman Mês atrás
Indeed
Serenet
Serenet 2 meses atrás
"You are only distracting me with numbers and sparkles!! I'm not an ork!" As an ork myself I feel offended good sir. I only get distracted by loot and dakka.
Trauma Team International
OI! YOU'Z DA GIT WAT NICKED DA SPARKIN' GUBBINZ OFFA ME STOMPA! DON'T LISTEN TO 'IM LADZ, 'EZ PINCHED MORE SPARKLES'N KAPTIN BADRUKK!
Braeden Mclean
Braeden Mclean Mês atrás
So not even teef then? Does that mean I get any you loot?
Rick N
Rick N 2 meses atrás
Shiny Gubbinz?
Lorn Baker
Lorn Baker 2 meses atrás
Even an ork would get bored by this gameplay.
Padmanabhan Vaidyanathan
WHY ARENT YOU BEING LOUD AND ORKY YOU GROT
Федоровский Д.А. см5-42б
"it is not worst mobile game I played" Anything now is not worst You played isekai demon waifu
Waleed Khalid
Waleed Khalid 2 meses atrás
This is why I love this channel, Josh is objective and thoughtful so his criticism always has weight. He is the type of person who when he speaks about games, I listen.
Amy Sakalov
Amy Sakalov 2 meses atrás
"I'm not an Ork." Josh, be real, you know you're an Ork so just admit it.
velcro dude
velcro dude 2 meses atrás
The thing with this game is, while it is lore accurate, a lot of these sorts of games are. I've played at least a dozen historical themed games like this that are all copy-pastes of this format. And all of them are fairly historically accurate tbh. But at the same time, all modern mobile games are like this. The only unique parts are the inclusion into the setting (the lore) and the battles, and both are done ok, considering those are the only new elements the game adds. I think the reason that there is such an overwhelming number of systems is that such games drag in successful elements, like the base building from Clash of Clans, daily rewards, tech trees from literally every single game, the map system (which I think is from Mafia first, idk though), lootboxes from a lot of games as well, and tried to incorporate them into one game, creating absolute messes like Lost Crusade and other mobile games like this.
Christian Chavez
Christian Chavez Mês atrás
The only good thing I can say about this game is that they actually acknowledged the White Scar's existence
Coop1989
Coop1989 2 meses atrás
I gave this an honest shot as f2p until my whole army was wiped in a pvp event... i went to see how long it would take to recover and it was just ridiculous
The Gray Fellow
The Gray Fellow 3 dias atrás
"About as accurate as telling an Eldar player they'll get new models any day now." I cannot express how happy I am that this joke aged like milk.
Alex Johnston
Alex Johnston 2 meses atrás
The bit that broke me when I tried the game out was when I spent all that time building my army up then the pvp protection 'potion' wore off and I logged back in one day and to my surprise my whole base was utterly devastated. Oh well *uninstalled*
Gruntman1234
Gruntman1234 2 meses atrás
40k fans: "The Codex Astartes does not support making crappy mobile games." Games Workshop: "WELL I CAN'T READ!!"
John Vic Domingo
John Vic Domingo 2 meses atrás
I have found Chapter Master Badger's marines here
Zero
Zero 2 meses atrás
THE SPACE BOOK SAYS THIS IS BAD!
Antonio Sonntag
Antonio Sonntag 2 meses atrás
Why are you flaming me, I'm right?
Mad Light
Mad Light 2 meses atrás
From their recent actions i think it would rather be like: "Who's Astartes?"
HE HE
HE HE 2 meses atrás
"Turn off your Heavy flamer"
Owen Lee
Owen Lee 2 meses atrás
I remember when this was first announced and I put down to test it's Alpha stage, the only parts they were showing was the weird combat minigame, gave you a completely different impression of what the game would be. They almost completely lied about the final product and what it would be.
Green Tea
Green Tea 2 meses atrás
Been playing this game since it started, it's not very good but depending on what server you get put in, your experience can be very pleasant! The top clan gets to govern some things and grant certain buffs to people, as well as having the Grand Protector, basically the topdog who actively smites people who grief, ie attacking lower leveled players It's pretty neat, but it's honestly a 4/10 in the end still lol
Shachza
Shachza 2 meses atrás
So, I've heard one key thing about this game, and it's something you never got to experience either for or against: I've heard that once your newbie protection wears off, as you predicted, you get smashed by other players. Then you get to rebuild, but doing so within the base, free version of the game puts you under all the same constraints you mentioned in this video, while providing no protection from it happening again. So, I've heard PvP will likely wreck you as soon as its enabled, and unless you pay, you can't ever reliably rebuild. But I freely admit that's hear-say. Though for this type of game, I'm inclined to believe it.
Jack Harrow
Jack Harrow 2 meses atrás
I've played the WHF version of this game (it's literally the same game with a fantasy chaos reskin and the combat entirely removed) and that is exactly how it is. If there is any level of player skill in the combat in the pvp in this, maybe you have some kind of chance but in Chaos and Conquest you literally can't do anything but hide your high level troops from attack and let your resources get yanked by someone who has been playing longer than you. Because there is no real gameplay in these kinds of 'games,' they are entirely about menu navigation, resource management, and wasting your time, you will get wrecked by nearly anyone who's been playing even a few days longer than you.
Clayton Grubbs
Clayton Grubbs 2 meses atrás
Yes but no. New servers are starting up on a regular basis. Joining the first servers where everyone that still plays is a maxed base is not a good idea for what should be obvious reasons. That being said, it's really not that hard at all to recover armies.
Kyle Lang
Kyle Lang 2 meses atrás
My experience was thoroughly enjoying this game for about two weeks, getting into a decent clan and building up my base/army pretty quickly. I had gotten ~3 champs to level 70+, had 4 fleet queues, 3 build queues, could take down level 22+ anomalies and participate in events with my peers. Then all of a sudden I wake up one morning with my power rating dropping from I think ~10 million to about 2 million (As much as my base was worth) as I was attacked by someone with 3 level 100 (maxed) legendary champions and the battle reports basically showed how I lost 90% of my forces and the attacker lost '0'. Literally 0 losses from the attacker. The game provides a system of getting your lost forces back over the course of a few days then this attack was repeated by another player with a similar setup, 3 level 100 legendary champions. Your left in a state of being punched down by players whom paid for the most valued champions/shards and you can't keep up with farming your typical anomalies and resources as you're effectively being reset every few days. I quit after being farmed for 6 more days realizing I didn't have a chance to sustain my base and my clan all felt the same. Everyone got bashed, we couldn't protect ourselves and we just didn't understand how to compete. I'm hoping I had missed a big detail but gave up as so many folks in my clan openly quit and I didn't feel like moving. I dislike most Games Workshop video games, the developers whom acquired the titles are just terrible at making lasting games.
Ričards Teilis
Ričards Teilis 2 meses atrás
I played this game for a couple of weeks. I loved the setting, the design. I even got in the second best alliance on the server. Then one day a single player from the best alliance on the server single-handedly wiped out our whole alliance because he bought a ton of advantages for real money. This is a pay-to-win garbage like the rest of the lot.
Cristiano Marsil
Cristiano Marsil 2 meses atrás
Calling a cash-milk interface a game is an heresy in itself! *flamer starts hissing*
Sperwer Games
Sperwer Games 2 meses atrás
After seeing this review, I think the game makers left a very serious flaw in this game: they forgot they could monetize the option that tells you were to find certain materials.
Tekel Upharsin
Tekel Upharsin 2 meses atrás
I would love to see someone sue the ever living shit out of some of these manipulative mobile cash shop games and win the court case so soundly that other prominent mobile games tremble in fear.
Dis Guy
Dis Guy 2 meses atrás
Im happy to see josh enjoying his time in his "was it good" series, it really helps him journey into the unlimited rabbit hole of atrocious games.
Atraxian
Atraxian 2 meses atrás
Imagine him playing a good game then looking up at his schedule saying "need to record footage of bad mmo". Shaking his head and going "I'm having too much fun now, I don't want to play "generic mmo #11 by Gamigo"... But I really have to." Then his soul cries in desperation when he quits the good game to log in into "generic mmo #11 by Gamigo", waste hours of his life before realizing the game was so generic there was nothing interesting enough to make a video about.
Kristofer Fox
Kristofer Fox 2 meses atrás
God knows that's a rare trait to have I'd have been thru 20 phones breaking them into tiny pieces and flushing them the sad part is I'm not exaggerating that much 😅 I've actually done that before but for other anger induced reasons went thru a lot of government phones then with my broke ass 😂
Jon Guilt
Jon Guilt 2 meses atrás
Wow, this design keeps reminding me of Star Trek Online. The way that insubstantial rewards are thrown at you and the way natural content progression dries up so quickly to push a purchase.
Christian Alan Wilson
Christian Alan Wilson 2 meses atrás
STO is one of those games that I keep forgetting even exists, tho I played it quite a bit after it first came out. I guess that says something.
Kai Calimatinus
Kai Calimatinus 2 meses atrás
I started playing this early doors in the uk alpha, long after its first days but before the global actual launch. No ads, no bad youtube fakes, no big ch budget, no showing off different games or game modes that didn't exist. I enjoyed it for a few months, had a clan, played with them on disc at set times in the week for events that was fun. I even bought that first pack with Sicarius and a second build queue, but we were locked into Ultras. I would probably go fists no, but I would have gone BA if it were ever an option. But then the ads came out and I was just... Look I plays this game and none of this is in it. They really did sell out this hard, huh. And then updates kept invalidating work, the community got shitty, and I just vamoosed. A few pounds for a couple months of gameplay isn't awful time investme the but I can't justify more money or any more time in it. I'd rather kitbash my ba and print some custom tanks
Naomitage
Naomitage 2 meses atrás
that was the best intro you ever made Josh! absolutely
Switch
Switch 2 meses atrás
DoW 1 and its expansions are masterpieces. I remember saving up and buying it when it came out and having LAN parties with my friends. Summoning the Bloodthirster is so cool i still go back a few times a year and play a match just to do it. Plus the voice work of the possessed marines is excellent. "Do you hear the voices too?!?" I didnt even play chaos. I played nids and Dark angels, still love it lol.
Benjamin Pilgrim
Benjamin Pilgrim 2 meses atrás
One sentence summary: the only thing the developers like more than 40k is money.
Autobot Starscream
Autobot Starscream 25 dias atrás
@roro123 liaoliao123 And hence it's getting strangled by greed and politics.
Goldenkitten1
Goldenkitten1 2 meses atrás
It's true, but actually compared to a lot of the mobile games out there this really doesn't ask for near as much as some of them. I know games you'd literally have to pay more than a doctors yearly salary just to get anywhere, not to get all the best units and such like here, to literally just be a viable PvP player. I play one that in order to get to the max VIP level would literally cost around $150,000 and that wouldn't even guarantee any sort of success, just give you a boost.
roro123 liaoliao123
roro123 liaoliao123 2 meses atrás
The problems is that money is essential, is stupid to think people don't like money more than the 40k. People got family feeds, light to turn on and work to do. Is a choice for players who wants to play or not. 40k is ultimately a stupid hobby, fun but not essential like at all. It is superfluous.
Adtrl the gamer
Adtrl the gamer 2 meses atrás
That's pretty much it. Game Devs are losing their souls, if not already, to the Demon of Power that is MoooOOOoony!!
caesar485
caesar485 2 meses atrás
And the only reason GW loves 40k so much is because it's their biggest cash cow.
benedict
benedict 2 meses atrás
That currency hiding is some horrifying stuff. I've seen it done unintentionally or in a general blanket sense, but nothing this intentionally specific.
AmShaedar
AmShaedar 2 meses atrás
Once again an amazing review! I don't know if you have a more official way for people to propose games for you to review, but if you ever got the chance, you definately need to give "Cabal Online" and "Requiem: Memento Mori" a shot. Both of them are old but had such a unique and memorable feeling to them. I played them for so long and even though I haven't played them for many years now, I still remember fondly my time with them. Would love to hear your view on them, even though their current state might not reflect what it was back then.
Seriouskai
Seriouskai 2 meses atrás
This is just the same type of game I first saw some ages ago on websites. Click an option, watch a timer, repeat, then get out of newbie protection and become resource fodder for the pay to win players. There's no gameplay in it and never has been no matter what name or setting the "game" had. You can still make a game that lets people pay for certain things gaining you an income AND include some damn gameplay, it's not that damn hard yet companies never do because they don't have to, people still "play" their game and spend money when it's as empty as a skeleton with osteoporosis.
ksh
ksh 2 meses atrás
"Create the problem, sell the solution" Perfectly sums up most micro-transactions
ericb31
ericb31 2 meses atrás
"create the problem, sell the solution, the most anti-player game design ever made."
Sidnei Farias
Sidnei Farias 9 dias atrás
@Cavare Envius It's called pure greed, and it exists no matter what economical system is in place.
Noriaki Kakyoin
Noriaki Kakyoin Mês atrás
@Cavare Envius Wrong, capitalism is work in exchange for goods or currency.
Halford Cincuentaysiete
@Cavare Envius Nope. It's called corporate malpractice
Jack Harrow
Jack Harrow 2 meses atrás
@Cavare Envius what if we monetized the rot
Cavare Envius
Cavare Envius 2 meses atrás
It's called capitalism.
Quak0r
Quak0r 2 meses atrás
Thank you for the recommendation! I’m developing a game that borrows some things from strategy games and thanks to this video I’m adding this game to the research material.
TheBlackBrickStudios
TheBlackBrickStudios 2 meses atrás
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only corporate greed.
chillmane
chillmane 2 meses atrás
Being part of an alliance is a big part of the game as well. In my experience, my biggest tip to new players. join an active alliance and get yourself involved with the alliance activities. Being part of an alliance gives you access to super resource spots, you can send resources to each other, rally on enemy fleets together, or coordinate attacks on other clans, etc. Also, its a real time war game so don't expect players to not attack you but usually most sectors have a "no kill" rule except on certain days to allow players to grow so its not completely uncivilized. Either way seek protection in an active alliance. In conclusion, if you play the game for a single player experience then you are going to be disappointed. GET INVOLVED!
Che Gorilla
Che Gorilla 2 meses atrás
The battles felt mindless, pvp goes to those who pay, upgrade system also started to feel unrewarding. I'd say I agree with everything you said.
Francisco Brisolla de Oliveira
Josh, I think that mobile MMOs are low hanging fruit but you should absolutely cover them because it exposes the lengths some developers will go to milk players
clau grbl
clau grbl 2 meses atrás
mobile games also infected core games
uberneanderthal
uberneanderthal 2 meses atrás
casinos: 'we get people addicted to games that only have a small chance to pay out' mobile games: 'wait, you actually pay out? lmao amateurs'
Andrei Morar aka Nunenorianul
@Francisco Brisolla de Oliveira since I see you have a Cirno profile pic (nice image btw) and this thread is about mobile adaptations of game series, plus that Genshin has already been mentioned, all I'd like to add would be the following words: Touhou Lost Word. Decided to try it out more out of "why not" (even if it may be the perfect exemple of "playing something just due to the package" - I normally do not play gacha RPG games, this one being an exception played at the level of "casual f2p"), and still stuck to it somehow, especially after trying the actual bullet hell games. I really should give another shot to the original games since they are actually interesting, and really like the lore, characters and music
Slaanash
Slaanash 2 meses atrás
@Joikax Props to the AL devs for being honest and generous with mechanical benefits because they know that people will happily spend money to dress up their waifus. Now if you'll excuse me, my development on Agir is nearly done.
Sean Phillips
Sean Phillips 2 meses atrás
@Jappards I disagree.... a little bit. There's been mobile games I loved. There was a walking dead game that was pretty good. Marvel Strikforce was a lot of fun and was probably the longest I ever spent on a mobile game. Clash Royale and PUBG Mobile were 2 games that a ton of people played at my old job and we had a ton of fun and those were great memories. Hearthstone, Elder Scrolls Legends, and the 2 Witcher games I played on mobile were all very good games. Yeah some of those games have money sinks and that's one of the issues of mobile games. I was a top player in Marvel Strikforce and I didn't spend much money at all over like 2 years of playing it. When I did spend money it was a small amount and a special deal. Also I use an app that gives me Google play money so I used that most the time. But yeah, most mobile games are dog shit.
Shatari
Shatari 3 dias atrás
My favorite part about playing Warhammer 40k is that I got all of the fourth edition compatible books for dirt cheap, and I just proxy in the miniatures. I'm sure I'm missing out on the thrill of intending to paint miniatures while trying really hard to not paint miniatures, but I just devote that energy into not crafting terrain out of all of the cool pieces of foamboard and styrofoam I've been collecting instead.
Grim
Grim 2 meses atrás
11.10 I played the game for a few weeks this genuinely is spot on, I had to move location so many times that I eventually gave up as did my chapter (guild) we had made
Remanada1
Remanada1 2 meses atrás
I'm watching this one after the lord of the rings one and it's unbelievable how similar the UI looks right out the gate
Shater Lemming
Shater Lemming 2 meses atrás
You're like the new TotalBiscuit in my eyes. Appreciate your content.
dlld77
dlld77 2 meses atrás
These games are literally designed using psychological science to get you to spend money and not much else.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett Mês atrás
This is an incredibly accurate statement. I’ll get it anyway, but damn, you are so right!
Always angry
Always angry 2 meses atrás
to get stupid people
VictorianTimeTraveler
VictorianTimeTraveler 2 meses atrás
I've been playing this game called Inquisitor recently, it's undeniably fun but it should not be that easy to defeat chaos daemons or especially Black Legion. They're thousands of years old, Veterans of countless Wars and blessed with Divine favor of the Dark Gods, add to that; they are the sons of Horus Lupercal the greatest of all Primarchs.
Dr. Drej
Dr. Drej 2 meses atrás
I remember the first time I played a browser game called Travian about 13/14 years ago and it was one of the first games of this style. Select a faction, build a city and troops, collect ressources and fight against other players on the map. But there were no way near 500 rewards per day you could collect, no 100 system to use and confuse you and most importantly: You could spend money on a few different "gold" packs, which would cost between 1 and around 20 €. And even with the gold you got from a 5 € pack, you were able to speed up your game and use it for days or weeks until you needed to buy new gold. It was still dumb but it was generous and you had the feeling that the gold you bought had value. But this game genre got obscured and perverted into oblivion at this point. Who even plays these kind of games? How far have we fallen as a (gamer) society and the most important question of all: will Josh play more of these games on his channel because I really freakin love to see him bitch about these awful mobile monstosities!
Yoyi
Yoyi 2 meses atrás
I had an army of IG just themed around savaging parts of other armies. It was fun mixing in other army parts. Lot of t'au shoulder pads and nids claws on arms baraka style
3NC3PH4L0N D1V3
3NC3PH4L0N D1V3 Dia atrás
Sometimes, i still go to a silent corner in my house, crying about Breath of Fire V :( Such an impactful and great franchise back then. Gave me tons of childhood memories :) Maybe i'll make a fan-game with the rpg maker just for me :/
Speebleboppa
Speebleboppa 2 meses atrás
If you could've been a Necron, would you have been Josh Strife Flays?
Kai Ranis
Kai Ranis Mês atrás
This is it. We've found the perfect string of comments. Now I can get back to that grimdark future.
longrange1977
longrange1977 2 meses atrás
An Ork gunner, Josh Strife Sprays...
Trazyn the Infinite
Trazyn the Infinite 2 meses atrás
Let me put you in a display you precious little troll
Mortarion
Mortarion 2 meses atrás
This thread is gold.
Zoonal-GG
Zoonal-GG 2 meses atrás
@Pixel Magic Josh Strife Plates
Pedro Catarino
Pedro Catarino 2 meses atrás
Excelent excelent work. Fast paced but lightly presented and explained. I wish you could do this kind of analysis to World of Tanks and debunk the scheme of Wargaming...
Koranthus
Koranthus 25 dias atrás
I would like to point out that when you got those multiple rewards for the growth system and similar, it was actually the system unlocking and you retroactively getting your rewards you have unlocked on the way.
draxx85
draxx85 2 meses atrás
Hiding the totals things cuts deep. I have actually implemented that very system specifically for that reason. When we pop a dialog like that, we override what your top bar resources show so that its not visible. Unfortunately that functionality is exposed to the designers so they are always in control of what can be shown to the player no matter what panel is open in front of the player. Its absolutely foul
Alejandro Moreno
Alejandro Moreno 2 meses atrás
You caught them trying to get you spending in a subtle horrendous way. But let's face it, these games are all in into the monetization schemes. Thanks for the video.
WalknTalknStevnHawkn
WalknTalknStevnHawkn 2 meses atrás
It's mostly a reskin of a game called King of Avalon, although with some features that are expected of a modern phone game. They're designed to pump your levels and resources up extremely high for the first week. It wants you to get invested so you feel more comfortable spending money to speed the process up later. The thing these phone-games never tell you is that they're pvp focused, that gives them the big-spenders (cashcows being able to attack you and wound every unit you own so it takes millions of resources and days of healing to be able to use them again). It also lends to you feeling like you are falling behind and always at a disadvantage unless you spend money, and that feeling only grows larger the more you spend. I imagine these kind of games print money as they essentially produce nothing outside of a fleeting feeling of superiority for the wallet warrior boomers. I played one briefly out of boredom for a few weeks and it's honestly frightening just how large the time gates and resource pools become.
Lassi Kinnunen 81
Lassi Kinnunen 81 2 meses atrás
I would call it pvp based if there was a pvp win state. it sounds more like griefing based.
hồng hà vũ
hồng hà vũ 2 meses atrás
There are people who paid hundreds of thousands USD to stand on top of game like these, I know some of them personally too. Gacha mobile game is nothing compare to the level of bloodsucking a kingdom building mobile game has.
Delsanar
Delsanar 2 meses atrás
I think I mighta played that game... damn Chinese raiding me every day.
WalknTalknStevnHawkn
WalknTalknStevnHawkn 2 meses atrás
@planescaped It's a large majority of players who just want to play and """Compete""" in a game by spending money. Dozens of players will vie against each other to spend the most money in whatever new server comes out every cycle so they can be on top. Hundreds of dollars being dropped weekly just to ensure nobody can beat their investment, and it's done by a few whole percent (1-3) of the playerbase of any server (and there are tons of them that cycle, because if this process never had a restart, then then nobody would pay for the race to the top)
spycom82
spycom82 2 meses atrás
I actually played a game when these monetization schemes were still maturing to the obese monstrosities they are nowadays. It was a Cars game, now perhaps 10 years old and you could actually get everything in that game without paying by just playing. Those good old pionier days were awesome. It stands to reason it is now no longer available on the Play store.
Series of Characters
Series of Characters 2 meses atrás
I love creating my own army and lore behind them. Ive got 5 armies in 40k each with their own custom lore, its just I absolutely hate GW too. Its so painful
Mr Zigg
Mr Zigg 2 meses atrás
I reckon a orc’s rise to war boss could be pretty cool game. A high action RPG of sorts with aspects of chivalry and a decent shooter would be epic. Would be nice to play something other then space marines sometimes
Penguin DT
Penguin DT 2 meses atrás
Luckily we do get some good games in this universe. Mechanicus is amazing and has one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard, Inquisitor Martyr is pretty dope and I've heard good things about Hired Gun.
Liberater
Liberater 2 meses atrás
warhammer has been going through a renaissance since at least 2018 in terms of popularity and content both official and fanmade, but for some reason games workshop seems like its doing literally everything they can to stifle this and make warhammer as unfriendly to new fans and fan creativity as possible and monetize every little thing warhammer related and if they arent actively making money from it they try to stop it as much as they can and while thus far they've been able to get away with it because of the increasing organic interest in the franchise once that begins to wane because of these practices it will begin to hit their bottom line, its a classic short term profit over building a long term community that will grow and be committed to the franchise
Symbiote Mullet
Symbiote Mullet 2 meses atrás
It's truly wonderful to watch someone drop their nerd card so hard, especially when they then tap it for mana and summon something bigger off the back of it.
kokosan09
kokosan09 2 meses atrás
blessed comment
Farvadude
Farvadude 2 meses atrás
technical comment
Onomato Poeia
Onomato Poeia 2 meses atrás
As someone who loves the 40k universe (up until the Primaris bs, but that's not important right now), I hate this game. It looks like 40k, talks like 40k, but definitely isn't 40k. It's a boring, oh so boring time and money sink, hidden by a 40k sauce. The one redeeming factor is that this game doesn't have Orks.
lw88
lw88 2 meses atrás
"about as accurate as telling an eldar player they'll be getting new models any day now" ooft my space elf brothers felt that
Ayreon
Ayreon 2 meses atrás
"I love everything about 40k.... except Games Workshop..." I felt this in my soul.
Selection
Selection 2 meses atrás
Man I'm baffled at how you don't have that many subscribers. I've only found you recently but all the videos I've seen are such high quality and so incredibly entertaining. I can't stop bingewatching your stuff. I wholeheartedly hope you get the recognition you truly deserve. Keep up the good work man👍🏻
xyzdude 0
xyzdude 0 2 meses atrás
One positive I found is that the khorne character in the beginning is an actual kitbash that people do. They even got the detail down where the head they used is actually slightly smaller than a regular chaos marine head. So someone there knows a good amount about 40k
Lebite Lexie
Lebite Lexie 2 meses atrás
Whenever a game tosses an overabundance of resources at me, I already feel that said resources are near worthless and crafting or building a few things will exhaust what I Thought was "abundance"
Darkestccino
Darkestccino 2 meses atrás
I find the most intriguing thing about this game is how it hides your crystal count when there's an option to spend it on speeding up Research. It's the subtle ways of manipulation that are always most curious to me.
The Aquila
The Aquila 6 dias atrás
"The app store page describes this as a game 40k fans will love which is as accurate as telling eldar fans they'll get new models any day now" That did not age well.
SnivyTries
SnivyTries 2 meses atrás
19:10 Not to mention that the only way to level up heroes is to get their shards, which is to say GET THEM AS DUPLICATES. To actively level up any of your legendary heroes, you have to make that 1 to 2 percent roll AGAIN. AND AGAIN. Hiding crystals is absolutely scummy, wow. I do wonder though, does that number vanish during other upgrade screens where you can pay crystals...EDIT: No, they're only hidden in the research screen. YIKES.
Lars Isaksen
Lars Isaksen 2 meses atrás
you get them from missions as well.
Donny Treaster
Donny Treaster 6 dias atrás
This video is why I subscribed to you. I want to see more from you over mobile games. F2p games for a long time were an addiction to me. I made my way out and it's no longer an issue for me. I would love to see more on the mobile genre because as predatory normal release games can be mobile games take the cake
Pedro Hammondo
Pedro Hammondo 2 meses atrás
I'm glad you covered this one mate... I played this for a short time and it was similar to the Lord of the rings one you covered. For game play this game is forgettable but for graphics I thought it was awesome. Game became quickly apparent as pay to win so I deleted it lol.
mrbearbear83
mrbearbear83 2 meses atrás
"The codex astartes does not support this game" Oh man, that hit me in the feels
Jordan L.
Jordan L. 2 meses atrás
40K is one of an increasing number of situations where I _love_ the game/universe, but _despise_ the way it's managed
Magos Explorator Adeon
Magos Explorator Adeon 2 meses atrás
Oh yeah I've played this game awhile back, immediately lost interest the moment I left the "tutorial" because I have so much shit/boosts/items that I have no idea what to prioritise. I tried to progress, but the higher lvl buildings I upgraded the more I realise that this shit is boring as hell. Props to the assets though, they're awfully decent for something like this.
reagent -52
reagent -52 2 meses atrás
The instant upgrades at the start are because your vip level gives you a certain amount of time where you can speed up upgrades for free. At the start if there's 5 minutes left then you can finish the build.
Adam Coggins
Adam Coggins 2 meses atrás
It breaks my heart that with the abomination that was Dawn of War 3, we'll probably not see another 40K RTS any time soon
Obe Lion
Obe Lion 2 meses atrás
i like how they just gave up on making a fun and enjoyable game and straight up try to get you addicted in every way possible. theres a degree of honesty there. like "yeah okay we cant make a good game, whats our next best option?"
Mark Abrams
Mark Abrams 2 meses atrás
"It gets good once you are a week in" not it becomes grindy as fuck and you get constantly raided by whales with no chance to defend against someone 27 times your powerlevel. The alliance system (guild/clan what ever you want to call it) reduces the grind a tiny bit, but not enough to make this game worth it. STAY CLEAR and hope the Inquisition dispatches this filth in the near future.
JJJBunney001
JJJBunney001 2 meses atrás
@Kenny Houser you're definitely missing a few unless you just mean new ones. DOW 1&2, space marine, Space Hulk, Mecahnicus, Necromunda, BGA 1&2 and a a few more I'm missing are all better than Inquisitior martyr
Conner Denton
Conner Denton 2 meses atrás
@Kenny Houser yea I kinda don’t like how they reworked that game. Plus you can solo Traitor Astartes in that game lol
Kenny Houser
Kenny Houser 2 meses atrás
Speaking of Inquisition, Inquisitor- Martyr is the only WH40K game worth playing imo.
stitch77100
stitch77100 2 meses atrás
An Exterminatus is the only acceptable solution for this case...
Dwarficus C. Maximus
JSH: "like telling an Eldar player they'll get new models any day now." GW (Dec 2021): "ooooo.... look at the shiny new Eldar models... you want, yes??" Feth me, that joke really didn't age well. Well, back into the filling carbinet for three years. Time to change it to "dwarf lovers being told Squats are coming any day now." Not just because I love hearing the word dwarf. Also; feth those pointy eared pounces.
Trauma Team International
16:10 That's not a macro-cannon shot, that's a lance cannon! Right when he was saying that it was clearly polished by actual fans. I know it's an incredibly minor detail, but I find it funny.
Darkly Tranquil
Darkly Tranquil 2 meses atrás
PDFs, 3D printers, and third party model makers are a blessing for the modern 40k fan.
ASTROCZ9
ASTROCZ9 2 meses atrás
I played this game and the Chapter selection must be new. When I played every1 was automaticaly Ultramarine. I even spent some money on it. But lategame gets crazy. You are nothing without a guild. And you get overwhelmed by majority very fast even in guilds if enemy joins.
Lead Paintchips
Lead Paintchips 2 meses atrás
Your opening clarification hits hard. There was a brief moment in time after they canned the former CEO who said that they were a miniatures company, not a game company where they looked like they were going to actually be a decent company. Started to move towards consumer friendly practices. The pricing was still rubbish, but they were taking steps in other ways to not be trash and started to win back customers that they lost to other games. Recently (within the past 5 years or so), they started to slip back into their old habits. It just so happened when they started to see constant growth (or at least stability) in their market share. Where other games started to make some missteps. The last straw was their view on video makers. I'm not buying their plastic crack anymore, and I'm not buying their books (I'm still going to read them though).
Sir Apple
Sir Apple Mês atrás
PhyreI3ird It’s like they purposely torpedoed their own growth. There are a metric fuckton of series/franchises that would kill over and over again for a fanbase that made fantastic content about the franchise like 40k had. That’s a guaranteed way to keep growing to keep MAKING MORE MONEY and they totally fucked it up. How many people got into 40k because of TTS? I’d reckon there’s quite a lot. That’s free publicity for a supposedly niche series, that’s an amazing thing to have just sprout up for your franchise. It honestly feels like the people at the top of GW should be wearing two bells and three helmets because these decisions they make keep messing with their future success.
PhyreI3ird
PhyreI3ird Mês atrás
Damn dude, in late 2020 and early 2021 it felt like WH40k was shaping up to eventually be the next cultural _megalith_ of a thouchstone, on par with marvel and star wars, purely due to the incredible wealth of fanmade content winning folks like me over BIG time. And then they look at how many players and other paying customers of the franchise were brought in thanks to the fan community, and were like "Nah. We just want to control everything. Who gives a fuck if we could become a pillar of culture. Fuck you, WE decide everything. Including how much money you can get from taking a gamble and working your ass off to make a more fun and enticing community without even asking to be paid for that service to us."
Lead Paintchips
Lead Paintchips 2 meses atrás
@Anton Maltsev IIRC they started to turn around and build up goodwill once they noticed that they were hemorrhaging players to other games, which took them a while. I know my local gaming group at the time just got sick of GW's shit and moved over to Warmachine. I remember other small tabletop games springing up at the time, but that was the one that my gaming group jumped on. It had interesting lore, a game system that was balanced around aggression, and a much _much_ lower cost to play and that was what was springing up in all of the games. It took them a long time to notice just how many potential sales they were losing, but they were making steps to not be perceived as the same GW that tried to copyright Space Marine. It also helped that Privateer Press (which was my local competitor to GW) was having a bunch of mistakes just stacking up, undermining what they built. Once it seemed like GW got out of shaky ground though, they slipped back into those habits of anti-consumerism and arrogant decisions, confident that their place at the top will never be challenged. Edit: I almost forgot about Battlefleet Gothic being a somewhat popular game, but it really appeals to a much smaller playerbase than any of the other games and has atrocious pvp balancing from what I've heard.
Anton Maltsev
Anton Maltsev 2 meses atrás
@Lead Paintchips Yeah you are absolutely correct about that. It has been like that for a while, but with that, even if the mentality was about selling models, it was never as bad as now. Maybe at that time what I saw was leftovers of a healthy hobby, which were then promptly snuffed out. Mind you, I think they were snuffed out by that same CEO you mentioned. But when the new CEO came he never did manage to re-capture the era before.
Lead Paintchips
Lead Paintchips 2 meses atrás
@Anton Maltsev I'm more than willing to admit that I wasn't around for the whole GW ride, since I'm 10 years younger than the company. Looking back and scouring what was released when I was jumping into it, and it was 5th edition also. That was around the time of their CEO going "We're a miniatures company, not a games company". _That_ mentality showed exactly what they viewed what everything was all about. The fluff was there to sell the game, the game was there to sell the miniatures. The goal wasn't to create a interesting and deep narrative that would draw people in or to create a fun and balanced game that would draw people in and you could see the effect most clearly with how Matt Ward borked the lore and the balance of the codices that he worked on. The whole business strategy was about pushing the latest models. Side note, Matt Ward did bugger it up, but he didn't deserve the death threats and the vitriol that he got. I also am pretty sure that he's calmed down on his writing since he was involved with writing Vermintide 2.
Torgall
Torgall 2 meses atrás
Thanks to you I now pay attention to monetization in games. I realized how many of those methods I encountered, especially in free to play games: first upgrades are quick; free premium currency to spend on things like instant upgrade or revival; temporary access to tools that are almost necessary when playing later on (e.g. gather all crops vs single clicking every one); starting protection from op players that will quickly ruin your day; super attractive cash shop offer pop up when they presented you with problem that money can fix.
Tycho_Gaming
Tycho_Gaming 2 meses atrás
yeah i got into this game like the day it launched almost a year ago, once that starter shield is gone your screwed anyone who's put any money into the game has a extreme advantage over others. i started one of the largest guilds on the server i was on and had a huge amount of resources between us and i was a decent level, 1 guy attacked me and that was it he wiped my whole army, and before i could build up a new army he'd just attack gain and again and gain and unless i paid a lot to get a shield that lasted more than a few hours i was screwed, so i stopped playing
Niels Jensen
Niels Jensen 2 meses atrás
That's accurate for the Dodex according to the latest lore. When Guilliman came back he looked at the Codex Astartes and went, "yeah, I may have written this, however, you take it way too seriously, it's only a guide." This is the reason the Primaris units are armed in a way that's distinctly non-Codex Astartes.
Cory Leach
Cory Leach 2 meses atrás
Having worked on games very similar but not exactly this one I can say that usually there is a team of people who really like and care about the source material working on the game who want to really do it justice but are constrained by people at the top driving the money making decisions which they're sourcing from mobile strike and the billions it made off this model and that's what results in this trash.
Velacroix
Velacroix 2 meses atrás
you know, for someone who has never gotten into Warhammer but has had maximum exposure via osmosis for well over a decade, I've got to admit: the franchise knows how to attract incredible composers.
Schneeflocke
Schneeflocke 2 meses atrás
I just wish for a game like "chapter master" which sadly never was finished but showed big potential. There are some good 40k games but they are so very rare....
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