The Big Question: How To Make a Living In Music?

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Richard Adamson
Richard Adamson 6 anos atrás
Great video, Rick, but you left out playing music live in bars as an income source. I don't like to brag, but I made well over a hundred dollars gigging last year. Honest.
Chris Colbourne
Chris Colbourne 11 dias atrás
Damn, you scored a gig?!?
The Prolix Ramblr
The Prolix Ramblr 4 meses atrás
reading this comment 5 years later and nearly dying from laughter. thank you sir!
Mountain Rock
Mountain Rock 4 meses atrás
I hope you are keeping up with inflation getting $200 today! Budget women will help!
Matt Gilbert
Matt Gilbert 5 meses atrás
@matthewtryba I learned it from history. The old English Kings would invade France, say fk off to the tax collectors, then take a lot of beer and women.
matthewtryba 5 meses atrás
@Matt Gilbert solid tax strategy
Nazmo King
Nazmo King 4 anos atrás
What Rick just described here is the exact same thing that has happened to the book-writing world. No publishers out there want a new author - they're just willing to spend money on the already-established author, regardless of how good your book is. Everybody in music, movies and books wants to "refry the same beans" over and over and over. Nothing new, nothing different, nothing unique - TOO RISKY. Feed people the same movie sequels and book authors and musicians over and over and over. BUT, that's why self-publishing for books and BRvid for musicians and Indie films have taken off. It's the new and only way to get your stuff out there if you're new to the industry. Then, if you go viral, the publishing companies will crawl all over you to give you money and "discover" you haha!!! That's where things are now.
Julio 7 meses atrás
Hey this is so right
CUBNATION108 11 meses atrás
@Gary Citro Movie too! West Side Story, The Great Gatsby, The Longest Yard, Ocean's Eleven, True Grit, The Out Of Towners, The Magnificent Seven, etc.
JW Money
JW Money Anos atrás
I hate when I click on a 15minute waste of time. Good comment though.
automachinehead Anos atrás
@The Sentinel not just mobile gaming, the main gaming platforms are doing it too
Frankincensed 4 anos atrás
Nazmo King funny, I just mentioned that above in the comments
Old Cartoons
Old Cartoons 4 anos atrás
My roommate and I have almost entirely replaced streaming on Netflix, Hulu, Whatever, at night with your videos. You have a palpably contagious passion and it serves as a perfect reminder that life wouldn't be so bad if we all just loved, learned from, and lived for each other. Thank you for taking the time to share with us what you have learned my brother from a cosmic mother. Cheers from Raleigh, NC, USA!
Rick Beato
Rick Beato 4 anos atrás
Thank you!!!
cephoras 4 anos atrás
I got into the "music business" when my band, Amedeus, was signed to Epic records. Everything Rick says about record deals and publishing "theft" is true. Too young and ignorant to read the contract and spent years as a touring band paying back the front money for the record production. Success in this business is different for everyone. I became a successful studio musician for several decades until digital processing and drum machines took over. When something like that happens, you have to change your game, which I did. It meant walking away from the music business and into multimedia production. Everyone has some other talent besides their music skills that they can leverage for a new career. I know a couple of drummers who went to law school and now have practices just for music related business. A lot of my colleagues write or produce. Many are great visual artists and work with musicians to create promo and web sites. If you don't have a side skill, my advice is to develop one or several. You need a variety of tools in your survival kit. And, things will change for sure and you want to be ready when they do.
Rene Elizarraras
Rene Elizarraras 2 anos atrás
When you would do a show, let’s say the band asks for 20,000$ per gig, What percentage or how much would each band member make out of the 20,000$? Also, What percentage does the foh engineer usually get?
Ben H.G
Ben H.G 5 anos atrás
I feel like this video leaned over towards the question "once you make any money from music, where is it coming from?". I think a good way to answer the question "how to make a living in music" would be - in order to make a living doing music, you need to do MULTIPLE things at the same time. Relying solely on succeeding with your own form of art is close to impossible (still is possible, but very difficult and might take years until it becomes dependable). Here are some ideas of music related streams of income to think about: - Sound Engineering (studio or live) - Teaching (privately or in an institute, a music teaching business/website) - Producing - BRvid (content creation, ad revenue, 'Patreon' support etc.) - Session work (irl or online) - Musical Performance (with your own music or someone else's) + it's secondary ways of income (merchandise, digital and physical record selling and streaming, etc.) - Film Scoring (or any other type of "intended composing") - Running or renting out a rehearsal space - (for people who own a lot of instruments) Instrument Renting - Instrument building - Instrument set up and maintenance Those are a few ideas to have in mind. Even if you want to be more niche and become an expert in one field (say a performing musician), try to diversify yourself and have several jobs running at the same time, ie take part in several projects at the same time. Honestly, if you can sustain even just a few of those avenues at the same time you are going to make at least a decent amount of money as a musician, plus, having these parallel sources of income means you're less susceptible to the uncertainties of living a life based solely around music. Hope that helps anyone.
ray_getard Anos atrás
that's literally what he said.
Yu Narukami
Yu Narukami Anos atrás
@damagecontrol60 Why, yes, I’m almost 17. So, I guess I really wanna be either a studio engineer or work in the IT Department. Thanks for the help, mate! I really appreciate it! Cheers
damagecontrol60 Anos atrás
@Yu Narukami Ben HG’s answer above is the best.
damagecontrol60 Anos atrás
@Yu Narukami You sound like a young person that Has not established a career yet? Those are all honorable fields. However I don’t think architecture is an easy field. It takes a lot of study and then you really need to design what customers want. It is a rare architect that Gets to design just exactly what they want. For music studio engineer, Rick Beato said it best - if you’re gonna make a living in music we need to develop your talents and diversify.... to be able to be a performer, songwriter, studio engineer and then just use whatever roles and tools are necessary at the time. IT There’s a big field and that’s probably the one that’s currently there is is to make a decent living at once you find area you want to specialize in. Good luck
Yu Narukami
Yu Narukami Anos atrás
@damagecontrol60 Aight, thanks! What do you think about architect, IT, or studio engineer
Gerald O'Brien
Gerald O'Brien 3 anos atrás
I’m happy someone recognized the Tele-Communications Act. In the past, there was a limit as to how many radio stations a company can own. The thinking was that it was bad for democracy, and it was bad for business. Having one company owning everything stifles business and creativity. A great example of how beneficial it was for artists in the old days is the movie “Coal Miner’s Daughter”. Loretta Lynne and her husband went from radio station to radio station throughout the South trying to get her demo played on air. Most wouldn’t play it, but some did, and when the song became a hit on those stations that aired it, those that didn’t play it originally began to do so. She was able to pull this off because, by law, all those stations were separately owned. Nowadays, with only six companies owning every station, this can’t be done.
James Everett
James Everett 3 anos atrás
And those 6 are probably all run or owned by the same top executives.
Ken Jones
Ken Jones Anos atrás
Having been professionally involved in the music industry since my young teen years in 1961 and worked as a studio artist, a studio musician, and I've been in a band with numerous top 20 hit records from the mid-1960s. I've remained in and out of the music business since the early 1980s, and I can tell anyone with any doubt, the information you've provided in this video is the most practical advice I've heard. Although I didn't seek this advice, I thought I'd watch to see what you had to say. And, for anyone who was actually looking for this information, you can take this content as "gospel." Great info for those who need it most.
Dan C
Dan C 6 anos atrás
Thanks for all of this advice, Rick. Being in this industry is such an utterly daunting task. It often feels like I need the skills of five different professionals just to have a chance at ever making any money. Currently studying sound engineering and trying to improve on my instruments and with my compositions but's so intimidating. Thanks for making it just a little easier :)
Eddie D.
Eddie D. 4 anos atrás
I find this content very interesting, I never realized how tough it was to make a living in the music industry. People say they love an artist but the real question should be, are you supporting them?
Street Music UK
Street Music UK 5 anos atrás
What about busking? I made £4:52 in 38 hours. Take off batteries and bus fare and that,s a clear 42p profit ! I only got spat at once and the police agreed not to arrest me if I agreed to immediately fuck off
Firstname Lastname
Firstname Lastname 5 anos atrás
I have a non-music related full time job, but I always love the feeling of playing music live (although only few times a year, mostly at friends' events). At some occasions I get paid, but not that much... Lately I have been thinking about going into playing music full time, but I know its not easy... Guess I'll just start by doing regular session at bars/cafe at night while working in the office during the day. It's always been constant battle inside of me, between being realistic and following the dream... Just sharing though... Oh, i remember Guthrie Govan once said: "Music owes nothing to you"
Neil Gibbons
Neil Gibbons 3 anos atrás
HAY ! are you having FUN!!! Music owes you that much , you, ll be fine
Jim Eiden
Jim Eiden 4 anos atrás
Firstname Lastname Harry doesn’t mind if he doesn’t make the scene. He’s got a day time job, he’s doing all right
Enrico Ferraresi
Enrico Ferraresi 3 anos atrás
Hey Rick, great video, thank you! My personal experience as a professional musician here in Italy since 1980 is do various things in the music business to make a living, pay bills and buy my house with a studio: 1) club gigs in many different music styles; 2) play drums on tours with famous pop artist 3) play at convention, corporate party 4) tv promo on national tv broadcast for big stars (for example...i do this for 8 years with Andrea Bocelli); 5) writing article on a print drummer magazine; 6) do european tour with USA blues/r&b/funk/soul artist on tour; 7) do private drum lessons (and percussions) in my studio; 8) recording drums for national tv jingles in my studio and in other studios (example i play on Q8, Nikon, Buitoni, IBM, Citibank, Fiat and many others; 9) recording session of every kind of musical projects in my own studio; 10) rent my studio to producers; 11) record producer (recording all the musicians and singers, play drums and percussions, mix, mastering, artwork for cover-package); 12) writing and produce music for documentary, tv show, movie, radio jingles; 13) play drums and cymbals as endorser at music fair-exposition; 14) team building with drum circle and percussions; 15) rent my 2000 watt little PA for cabaret evening in restaurant and small club; 16) recording sessions drums and/or percussions in other studios. ...and i think in the years i have do a lot of other things! :-)
Belladonna 3 anos atrás
jack freeman
jack freeman 4 anos atrás
I love how actually playing live comes way down your list and you only mention stadium gigs. When I lived in the North East of the U.K. I was employed playing in clubs every week. You can approach earning a living playing live just like any job but you need an agent for that. This means gathering promotional material, transport and equipment. I also got work making jingles to order. All of your advice applies to original material which is about as difficult as getting a book published.
bot878 5 anos atrás
Thank you Rick for this video, a closer look at today's reality.. it's funny cause Im 30y/old now, I was lucky enough to start making dance music records very young in early 2004 and from that point I seen the decline of the music industry like you described..after graduating at a sound engineering school I seen all the big studios I worked in, or got an internship, closing cause labels went out of budget..I couldn't never imagine that, I had to change mentality so fast and become independent..nowadays it's not easy making a living in the music industry, you really have to be a multi-purpose "one man band" and study composition and songwriting as much as you can..that said, Im not a golden record producer yet (I still dream for it eheh) but I can tell that if you work hard enough you can get a living from it..even if you are working for independent labels/artist 2 cents, hope this could help also other users..
camfre4k Anos atrás
Well how ? I'm 30 years old as well, can't even get my music heard. I seriously feel like quitting for the first time in my life. Been making music since i''ve was 17 years old and it's still the only thing I can picture myself doing with my life.. but these days it seems like it's not possible to make a living off unelss you're a famous pop musician. I don't even want to be famous, I just want to produce good music and still be able to pay my bills
Gary Truchelut
Gary Truchelut 3 anos atrás
Thanks Rick for your honest presentation on making a living in the music business. My son is one of those people that went to school to become a recording engineer. He interned in Dallas, TX at a large studio and then got a job in a small studio in Eastern Texas but couldn't make enough money to support himself. Since then he has turned his efforts to computer technician jobs which pay the bills but he has stayed in the music business on a part time basis. He has all the attributes you mention in your video, He plays several instruments, writes his own music, records and produces it in his own studio and has set up his own publishing company. He is upgrading his home studio to be a very good choice for local and regional talent to record. He still wants to do this full time and I think he is moving in the right direction at least according to your information. Thank you again for your time to address this topic.
Taylor Clarke
Taylor Clarke 6 anos atrás
Rick; great video, very insightful and thorough. I'm currently a college student with Berklee's online campus majoring in music production and music business. In my classes, we've heard from a lot of speakers, label people, A&R reps, promoters, etc. who have stated much of what you have. Many of the predictions that I've heard from some of these same people point to streaming becoming the new profitable avenue for making revenue as an artist, producer, engineer, etc. I'm well aware of the royalty rates you earn off of streaming, and how insubstantial it is for making a living, and how that rate must change in order for there to be more "room" in the music industry. I'd love to hear your predictions: do you think that we're just on a downswing in the music business as consumer choice is switching from the pay-to-own mentality to the pay-to-subscribe mentality, and do you think that this downswing is temporary? In other words, what do you foresee for the future of consumer-based music? Is that future going to be profitable for people working in many of the industry verticals, or should we all go get regular jobs like our parents told us? That last line was a joke.
rjmdrum 6 anos atrás
As always, Mr. Beato's knowledge on any music topic may be among the most valuable sources around. From film score analysis to complex music theory, I hope some royalties are being earned here because all of these videos are in my repeat queue.
tomnagle2001 2 anos atrás
Absolutely fantastic! Having been a public high school band director in Minnesota for an entire career (now retired) as well as always played in bands - community, night clubs, church, etc. i always wondered about these aspects of the music business. Thanks so much for explaining some very complicated information in such a comprehensible fashion!!!
Thomas King
Thomas King 6 anos atrás
Great job RIck. Can't wait to see the heights your son reaches musically in the future. Tis no coincidence that so many gifted people had parents who were gifted teachers, from Mozart to Tiger woods. Good luck to you.
Saucy Jk
Saucy Jk Anos atrás
From the age of 19 to roughly 45 I made a living playing and teaching. The internet, the "rock school" phenom, destroyed the teaching part, really. Also, rick will remember(I'm 6 years younger), that tabs for songs pretty much didn't exist up until say , 83 and even after until the internet was limited. So, I got paid for my ear, my knowledge and playing live. Now, the first two are essentially free. Live music, espec w covid, is dead. It's sad, but true.
jstnxprsn 2 anos atrás
Wow! Thank YOU, Rick. I feel a bit like I entered the Twilight Zone here, as it was if you made this video specifically for me, although I needed to see it years ago. I knew I wanted to be a producer since I was around 20 or so. While I was already a musician, I studied recording engineering on my own, until in the late 80's I was convinced to go to school for it, figuring I still had a few things I didn't know about, which was accurate, of course. I had perfect grades and was very good at it, and in fact continued on teaching workshops in it for a couple of years at the college, as well as continuing to do live sound reinforcement. (Vince Gill actually sang through my equipment a few times before he became famous) However, it seems that no matter how much effort I put into finding work (in Los Angeles, btw) I could never get more than a very occasional engineering gig. I was offered internships a couple of times, but by this time I was in my 40's and had a family and needed paying work. Eventually, I realized that there are few engineering jobs that ever open up and there were dozens, maybe hundreds of trained people who wanted them. I lost heart. I even tried working as a somewhat competent cover band musician, but soon learned that you compete with dozens of bands who will play for free just to have their friends come see them. In fact, in LA some clubs charge the band to play.. So a few years ago, I gave up on that. Never been too interested in writing my own music, but I'm 65 now, and wouldn't mind making a little bit of regular income as a musician for once in my life. So, I'm thinking hard about the BRvid thing. Then I see how much you have to do just to keep your channel afloat and I wonder if it's just a pipe dream at this point. Do you think I'm too old at this point? Rock has always been for the young, unless you're Jagger. Henley's line in The Sad Cafe seems profound. The line about Fortune smiling on some and letting the rest go free. Damn shame as I think I would have been good as a producer. Thanks again. I'd appreciate your thoughts.- Jstn
The Link Is Lost
The Link Is Lost 3 anos atrás
My father, god bless his soul. Told me when I was young and with a “dream” just get a simple career and if something happens to your music you’ll be lucky! But with your normal job you won’t be rich but you’ll be comfortable. Thank you dad, rest easy. He knew way ahead of time that I wasn’t going to make it, ha ha!
Zvika Dror
Zvika Dror 5 anos atrás
Thanks Rick (Dangerous) for talking over this troublesome subject. I always thought (25 years ago) that making a living off music making would ruin the romatic and magical nature of it, and make it a routine, stressed, compromising profession for me. I thought musicians should have a "real job" and do music when the "muse" hits them, usually, off work hours. Today I have a family and steady job and I hate the fact I cannot drop everything and only play, compose, cover, mix, try all the diferent instruments until I get versed on them. So - whomever reading this and delaying music to the afterlife (actually not go that far but when you are a family and not an individual with free time and will) - jsut don't - you will be sorry for lost time, lost ideas, lost music. It is something you got to try to know whether you will be good and make it your occupation, or keep doing gigs to your kids and friends and make a very good career in some business, so you can buy some instruments and gear and keep up the dream. Cheers! Great channel :)
PG Burke
PG Burke 3 anos atrás
@Necu rrence Inspiring words, indeed! Thanks for putting it into perspective... Hell, I'll MAKE the time! ✊😁
Necu rrence
Necu rrence 3 anos atrás
@PG Burke Bukowski wrote this, which is now my guide in life: "no baby, if you’re going to create you’re going to create whether you work 16 hours a day in a coal mine or you’re going to create in a small room with 3 children while you’re on welfare, you’re going to create with part of your mind and your body blown away, you’re going to create blind crippled demented, you’re going to create with a cat crawling up your back while the whole city trembles in earthquake, bombardment, flood and fire."
PG Burke
PG Burke 3 anos atrás
@Necu rrence I'm in the same situation as well...I was a touring Musician for YEARS and now that I have a (rather LARGE!) family and a job I hate, I miss Music like I'd miss BREATHING!!! I wish there was a way to make everything I do musically (which, unfortunately it's too few and far between) make MONEY!!! The way Rick tells it, even though I have the chops (Writer, Producer, Engineer, Multi-instrumentalist) AND I have some of my stuff online, I haven't found a way to capitalize on any of it! 😤
winter ramos
winter ramos 3 anos atrás
Just leave your family and become a rebel. Pretty simple.
Necu rrence
Necu rrence 3 anos atrás
Thanks for the comment. It's encouraging. I am in the same situation as you right now. I only want to do music because my soul needs it.
Stephen 5 anos atrás
Just wanted to say, I really appreciate how you have advanced music theory stuff that continually challenges me but also these much more personal discussion type videos. I find both incredibly inspiring and am looking forward to looking over your catalog of new and old videos.
Jono Richer
Jono Richer 6 anos atrás
Hey Rick, you said that if you you're a producer than can play instruments and write that that is a huge plus, but how would a producer actually go about getting hired by a label? Would they start doing indie projects and build a portfolio or is there some sort of showcase element involved? Thanks for the help! Love the video as always
Carlos Correa
Carlos Correa 3 anos atrás
I just took music business 101 from Berklee online and it took me three months to learn all this. Thank you for your time doing this for all of us.
Sam Anthony
Sam Anthony 3 anos atrás
How does a jazz musician make a million dollars? He starts with two million dollars. The flip side to having another career other than music is you get to play what you really enjoy.
Maya McCool
Maya McCool 9 meses atrás
I first heard it as a luthier....
Opera Singer
Opera Singer Anos atrás
This is so true. Which should be the main motivating goal.
Freedom Watches
Freedom Watches 3 anos atrás
That's great..
Crofinger 3 anos atrás
thats about right
Daberney 3 anos atrás
Sam Anthony: That's a pretty funny line---it could also double as a Trump joke.
James Palmer
James Palmer 4 anos atrás
Great video that confirmed my fears about going into the music business. I went to college in Mississippi back in the early 2000's and switched my major from music to business administration, because I was afraid I really wouldn't be able to make a living in the music industry. I've been playing piano, guitar, bass & drums since my middle school years, write my own music & lyrics and understand mixing, but I was never excellent and any of those things. I am so glad I made that decision back then to get a normal job and have a family while using my talents as a hobby and at church. Thanks for the info.
Boki Nguyen
Boki Nguyen 3 anos atrás
The field of music is so so so competetive, it require a lot of sacrifices
James Boccio
James Boccio 3 anos atrás
2112 rush lyrics concept vinal.Overture
Fabio S.
Fabio S. 4 anos atrás
Once a famous Italian music producer told me: "If you wanna do something in the music business you need money and (the right) friendships!"
basspig 3 anos atrás
That's true in almost every industry.
Mario 3 anos atrás
Was he Giorgio Moroder by any chance?
ifoundthistoday 3 anos atrás
so what you are really saying is there is no money in music and it's just an expensive hobby for 99.9% of musicians
ChromaticHarp 11 meses atrás
‘Brevity is the soul of wit’ - Will Shakespeare
asher platts
asher platts Anos atrás
Here in America, we treat music as a hobby, not a profession. The most successful musicians these days are either strong side-hustlers, or trust fund kids.
Yep. Ya just gotta want to play and do it no matter what. Paid or unpaid, breath of life. Everyone in each generation in my family played instruments from an early age. My great grandmother especially played many different ones, whatever she turned her hand to. She and her relatives and children just did it for a social outlet. But being very musical was our birthright practically. I used to think everybody (all humans) could sing beautifully or be on pitch. I didn't realize it was a genetic gift and that you could really develop it if you had it. School never mentioned it and it was totally taken for granted as ordinary in my family. It was just a thing you did: make music. As in: didn't everybody? No, nowadays people go out and buy it instead. Seems to me we should go back to just making it at home, for ourselves or our families, and reclaim it as a human possession
James McGhee
James McGhee Anos atrás
@Cidsa Dragoon Gaming OK, so good luck (and I mean it, I wish you well) finding ways to make and enjoy music and maybe sustain yourself! I really enjoy gaming music and artists that replicate it in various creative ways (Like "Insane In the Rain" on BRvid - my sin turned me in to IITR) and I have been a Patreon supporter...
Cidsa Dragoon Gaming
@damagecontrol60 I don't want communism so...
Delvallo96 4 anos atrás
Just turned 50 and I still love music. My band had a record deal with BMG in the mid 90s, released a full length and toured the country twice. But it fizzled out because we never wanted to become pop stars, and I personally didn't get into music to make money. These days I could care less about how the industry changed because I was never a fan of the industry to begin with, not even in the so-called "better days". If making music is part of who you are, do it for fun and don't change who you are. Do something else to make money.
Boddissatva 3 anos atrás
Darthchopper yes have a back up plan. Music is a great gift to share but learn a trade.
Mark Jones
Mark Jones 4 anos atrás
Lots of truths here Rick ! I would add that, If your an artist, the most important revenue stream, at any level, is live performance. You have to be able to sell tickets to your performances. Most acts, established or emerging, generate most of their revenue from live performance. Your ability to do, especially early on, is an indication that people like what your doing and will likely buy your recordings, merch, and other income generating vehicles as well. While you can make money selling the music itself, I would suggest that, more than not, music sales revenue is a fringe benefit of successful touring. Radio, for example, functions as a marketing tool for live performance revenue. Moral of the story is, if you (or a club owner or promoter) is having trouble selling tickets to your shows, you need to step back and take a hard look at what your doing, both artistically and marketing wise. Its not just about being great (very subjective) but its about getting people to buy in to what your doing on stage. Every thing else follows.
Mike W Ellwood
Mike W Ellwood 3 anos atrás
You come out with the most amazing and interesting information Rick, fascinating even for those of us with no connection with the music business (except as consumers, of course; most of us can relate to it in that sense).
The Peladeau Project (Band)
Thank you Rick, I think people need to understand that this video covers publishing, writing, engineering and producing. The mid to high end level of the music business. On the local level sure there are other ways but you did awesome explaining it as you see it from your world. I operate the Eccentric Musician Company here in the North East on a part time basis. That being said, thank you for your contribution.
Billy Blaze
Billy Blaze 3 anos atrás
Something that is happening in my area that is new and has taken me by surprise and all but destroyed music is that anyone who can hold an acoustic guitar is getting gigs at seasoned performer pay. I never saw this coming, people used to think karaoke would be the death of the gigging musician. What this tells us is that the people who hire artists can not tell the difference between talent and the absence of it. In addition the patrons of these establishments have been assaulted so much that now they just tune out all live performance further decreasing the value of a seasoned professional. Due to this I have been pretty much forced into an early retirement from performing, just can't find work, and since my talent counts for nothing I have no value in the industry anymore. So what I have done is built a small home studio and went back to creating music for myself again. But this is certainly the death of the gigging artist.
Ben Brookes Belcher
damagecontrol60 Anos atrás
Performing live I think it’s a lot like it’s always been, people who have charisma, people who know how to read a room, give people what they want, as an audience, can be successful in getting gigs. On the other hand people who are extremely talented, but can’t sell themselves, or do any of that proceeding, are not gonna be successful playing live in venues where experimentation, originality and virtuosity, are not the point. I live in Miami, in the suburbs, and they used to be a lot more live rock. Even through Covid I got to play a limited amount outdoors, live, most of these bands are amateurs, people that are fairly decent musicians, some even exceptional musicians, but most of them have day jobs. The audience often responds to stuff that the band would rather not play, so sometimes you just have to get in the mood and say “all right do you want to hear brown eyed girl or Sweet home Alabama for the millionth time”? If that’s what you request, or if that’s what will get you on the dance floor, we will play it. Then three guys split $500. I don’t get me wrong there are some other live bands to make a couple thousand or so annoyed but at these bars/restaurants no musician is making a living wage, they’re doing it for fun mostly. COVID Made it almost impossible for real musicians to make any money in life performance, but now that things are improving they Will be able to do it again
James Everett
James Everett 3 anos atrás
More true than most people realize. I played a one -time duet once with a guy who needed an extra for 1 night. He was so gawd awful it was hard to fathom and I thought we would be boo'd out and the owner would not pay us. Instead all we got were compliments, including from the host, who said we sounded "great". I knew she could not possibly have been listening, but she was probably just a nice person who thinks everyone is doing their best. If you watch the audience, they'e always talking anyway. No one listens anymore unless they're alone, and even then I suspect they aren't focused on the music. They're just used to having it blaring everywhere they go. Live music is also rarely balanced or mixed intelligently, so it's usually just a thumping bass with a barely audible noise behind it.
Roy Plisko
Roy Plisko 2 anos atrás
I'm glad you found BRvid Rick. There's a lot of BRvidrs teaching how to produce and engineer but you have a lot of history and perspective to go along with it.
Conrad Craft
Conrad Craft 6 anos atrás
great video Rick. Every starting musician needs to watch this video to the end... covers a lot of ground while hitting the essentials well.
Tonton Macoute
Tonton Macoute 3 anos atrás
It's tough to ever make it in the creative arts and has always been thus. During the Classical times of Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven, there were over 300 people in Europe writing symphonies and getting them played and published. However, we basically only remember these three names. Composers picked up teaching gigs mostly. Even Mozart made some hefty change as a teacher of composition and keyboard. Haydn spent most of his time leading "the house band" for some middling aristocrat. All the while, he was grinding out music and learning his craft. He really made the big time when he was like 47. The trick might be to figure out what you really do well, that one thing you do better than others. That's the vehicle for at least treading musical water. Those things that don't come easy might not be worth it in the long run. You might be a great teacher for little kids or really have an ear for others' style and quality. You might have to give up those dreams of performing or writing to be a 3rd grade teacher or do booking for a venue. I was fortunate to realize that I sucked as a musician and "composer/improviser" when I was 22, but could BS about music better than most. So it's been a life of music BS, with good a health and retirement plan. There's no shame in that, you know? Do what you do best and don't hold on to a dream that is a struggle or for which you're not getting consistent positive feedback. Specialize in bass clarinet, contrabassoon, or learn Renaissance lute if you have to. You'll be the only person in your tricounty area who does.
Chuckle MuChuckle
Chuckle MuChuckle 3 anos atrás
Lol this dude wrote a book
GodzillaGoesGaga 3 anos atrás
This is an excellent dive into the music industry. I have learned so much from this Rick. I never knew how the money flowed and this has at least shown me what goes on. I'm just an interested hobbyist but it's still fascinating. One question is how computer games music is paid. Do you know much about that new element to the music biz ?
The Beatfreak Recording Studio
Really great info Rick! For me you are one the best mentors on you tube. Always great learnfull content!
Willie Sagone
Willie Sagone 3 anos atrás
Thanks for your videos. I love them all. We all are living very hard times since music business died. Not because we were making money before - most of us never did. But because there is not even hope that music will ever be what it was. Music has become only an alternative to stupid viral videos and many of the jobs related to it are not enough paid anymore. Both a sad and useful video to watch.
Adriel Linhares
Adriel Linhares 5 meses atrás
This video was so enlightening. Thank you so much for the honesty of putting every detail in perspective. I think I've just had the answers that I needed.
Jack Donnelly
Jack Donnelly 2 anos atrás
My interpretation...Musicians are entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs must adapt to the constant changes of society. This is very difficult to do. What worked once works no longer. The dream of living good off royalties is really a fantasy for almost everyone. On the bright side it’s never been easier to produce music free from the conditions set by large recording companies. Also streaming has without question improved the situation of the consumer of music. You can play whatever song you want whenever you want, wherever you want.
Aura Qualic
Aura Qualic 6 anos atrás
I agree all what you said. I been in the industry as a Motion Graphics designer and Musician and its quite a lot of things to do before you can get the payment for living... This is why I am still not famous since I'm focusing more on the Motion graphics day job... what's also hard for me is that I live in country side... and most of the creative things happen in the big city.. that is another hard part of living as a creator and not only a musician :/
Hawk Cobo
Hawk Cobo Anos atrás
Thank you Rick, this was extremely helpful. Lots to sort through, you explained it all very well.
ivorycybernetics 5 anos atrás
Hey Rick, your videos are a treasure cove of inspiration and information. Thank your for the stories, insights, experience and teachings. I feel grateful beyond my ability to express it.
Scottland 2 anos atrás
Back in 1988, we got signed to Enigma and our record sold 12k units in 2 weeks. With barely any tour support from our label, some label support for promotional and advertisement we finally went "Cardboard" which means we sold 20k worldwide. It shouldn't be called the Music Business but instead should be called Business Music. Writing is where it's at for me now.
Matt Petello
Matt Petello 4 anos atrás
Great video, Rick! Learned a lot about the ins and outs of the music biz. Keep up the good work!
MJF Entertainment
MJF Entertainment 4 anos atrás
Really enjoyed this video! And the whole channel. My own 2 cents, I have done well as a wedding DJ, and since I also play piano I can do church services, theater accompaniment, and private piano lessons. What I tell students, at the end of the day people make money by providing a service. Only rarely does creative output lead to income
Bryan Bowser
Bryan Bowser 3 anos atrás
Recently, I commented to some touring artists I produced a show for about how tough the music business is and their response surprised me. They both responded at how much easier things had gotten. Both of these artists had developed their own unique sound. They set themselves apart. They were also easy going and professional which made my job very pleasant. I'm sure that translates throughout their network and keeps them working.
Gerald O'Brien
Gerald O'Brien 3 anos atrás
The problem with musicians is that most of them see themselves as entrepreneurs who are one day gonna make it big. It’s this attitude that has kept musicians in poverty. When they all wake up to reality and realize that they are more like day laborers who are never gonna be huge, then they’ll see the need to form unions who will boycott establishments that refuse to pay their workers a living wage. Musicians are the most nickeled and dimed group of professionals out there. The “I just do it for the love of it” attitude is bullshit. Musicians perform a very important function and should be compensated. Form unions because you deserve more.
Dave Bellamy
Dave Bellamy 4 anos atrás
This is a really interesting video.Your channel is an education! From my perspective as a consumer, I always had an instinctive feeling that in many ways the advent of the compact disc started to kill creativity and opportunities in the music business from around 1990, probably because it meant profits from almost endless re-issues and a lack of desire in the industry to be adventurous with new original acts. More formats have just increased this problem as they came along.
Ian Webster
Ian Webster 5 anos atrás
I studied music production, got my masters in Audio production. I've played bass for 17 years. I produce music which I put up on soundcloud and have accumulated a couple of thousand listens. D'you know how I make money from music? Covers band. For the majority of musicians, that's the best you'll do. Play pubs, weddings, birthdays etc. You have a great time and you can make a bit of cash to supplement your earnings from the regular job you have to have. There's always that joke about how do you make a million off jazz music? Start with a billion. Reckon if I become some sort of crypto millionaire I could build a studio, employ myself and slowly run out of money until I have to get a job again.
Martin Weeks
Martin Weeks 4 anos atrás
Oh please...put your ego in your back pocket and go do some real music. A friend of mine going back to the 1990's paid off his house doing nothing but "On Hold Music." yep, that was his niche...paid off his mortgage doing that.
ordonize holmes
ordonize holmes 4 anos atrás
well i got to learn music production myself because im an entreprenur
Jimsy 4 anos atrás
Good God, that was a depressing comment.
goldeneyeforevercom 3 anos atrás
Thanks Rick for the awesome video. You are such a genuine person! The world would be a better place if more people were like you. I originally saw your Apple rant videos and I didn't realize your true profession and experience. A real treat that you are willing to share. I really enjoyed your video where you played the greatest song intros. Talent comes through and puts most of other so-called BRvid "talent" to shame.
Danny B
Danny B 4 anos atrás
Very informative, you brought back points that I have forgotten about over the years. Things like the library services from which TV and movie scores are usually derived, I have a friend who uses one of those databases, and actually got his tune used as a TV morning show theme for a few months.
Boddissatva 3 anos atrás
Music is a drug. And we love it. It sucks the life out of you and we just keep doing it because it fills our soul. You have to write music that changes the way people think and feel to make a living, like the Beatles. It’s a rare thing but worth it
David Marmer
David Marmer 2 anos atrás
Simply want to give a shout out to you Rick for the work you do and I have derived so much inspiration and knowledge as a developing musician. A couple years ago I faced a very important truth which was that because of my choice to want to play my own original music I choose not to address what I have learned as some very important fundamentals . Music Theory and consistent guidance through the process of development. Facing the fact that my musical vocabulary was very narrow was a very hard pill to swallow. All these varied ideas that were expressed in a way that was simply too much the same felt like a punch in the gut. I had to get real and either quit which honestly was not an option, or face what I have avoided for a very long time. It has been a privilege to experience your generosity in teaching and I thank you for it. If I am correct I am pretty sure Ive heard you mention living in Nashville. Being that my parents live there I hope to one day meet you and when in a state of readiness work with you. A lofty goal yet I am determined to achieve is a few Rock Operas. Hopefully one day I can talk and possibly work with you on some projects that are very tied to a great need to give birth to these concepts. Thanks again and be well and prosper.
zingaman102 4 anos atrás
I have actually watched quite a few of your videos, they are always very interesting and informative. Thanks for putting the videos out.Some are better than others (my perspective or interest of course). From Australia it is great to her your thoughts on Nashville etc. What about the up - surge in vinyl pressings which is making a comeback, albeit slowly. Maybe the physical will allow people to record the music in whatever quality they like as many times as they want, and share it with whom they choose.Which was the way we used learn about new bands and music back then. I foresee more pressing plants being built but probably in China or India.
Agreed J
Agreed J 3 anos atrás
Rick, you went over the evolution of the music industry. these days u have to know the business end to end. great video on actual living experience. I love you hit what I am targeting, writing music.
chris littlefield
chris littlefield 3 anos atrás
Nice one again Rick ! Youre break down about the "alternative viable" methods to making a living are the most informative, especially regarding Publishing, Sound Exchange & Licensing ~ thanks again !
Tom M.
Tom M. 2 anos atrás
I started learning the guitar at 65 years old about 3 months ago. I haven't made a dime yet but spent a small fortune on the 5 guitars, amps etc. that I now own. I enjoy your vids.
Lawrence Davies
Lawrence Davies 4 anos atrás
Thank you. I studied music in the 80's mostly because of the wonderful feeling it gave me to be in Choir and the Marching Band. A former roommate of mine, Bob Stone, teaches music to middle school in Modesto. I love going on vacation to watch him perform and I often see him composing and arranging. It's an amazing skill. I would really love to see my friend Bob make money on some of his work. I sent him a link to your video. I learned a great deal. I subscribed to your channel and I look forward to hearing more from you. Excellent production.
Steel Strings
Steel Strings 2 anos atrás
More and more, it seems like the music therapy route is going to be the way for me to go!
Sound Barrier Entertainment
It's very difficult now when no one buys music and the live scene has decreased as well unless they are a now big time group. I seem to still pay bills and live off doing live sound for artists and corporate events well as a bit of djing still which is now also a flooded market. You just have to be good at it and have a great ear and present yourself professional to whom books you. I could write a whole blog but Rick covers all the basis. Thanks man
basspig 3 anos atrás
After I retired, I tried my hand at typography and typesetting. The graphic design and prepress. The the Mac computer came along and suddenly everyone's a graphic designer. Then I moved onto video production. The the cellphone camera came along. So I focused on high end concert videos. But then the market crash happened and orchestras went broke. Now I'm repairing vacuum tube amplifiers for a living.
Albert F.
Albert F. 2 anos atrás
Thats it, sell stuff to the priviliged. Can't lose!
Aloha Mark
Aloha Mark 2 anos atrás
Here's the advice I give to young people. Become a programmer. Most in the business are actually pogrammers, aka hacks. They make ten mistakes per hundred lines of code, write inefficient code, and earn a 6-figure salary. Managers (who are usually inept) are at the mercy of flake programmers. The way you can become a programming god is to fix programs that other people wrote, and could not debug. Then write highly convoluted but perfect programs that no one can understand.
Motor Cidy
Motor Cidy 3 anos atrás
Rick...thanks for this info man..I'm a producer, writer, musician and performer and I really needed this info to push my music and make a real living at it.
Chris Reid
Chris Reid 2 anos atrás
I hope you are still going strong at it!
merihakaboogie 6 anos atrás
Hey Rick! I really appreciate your videos and all the information you're giving out, thank you! I'm 28 years old and currently making a living in music / sound and would like to add a couple of options where music / sound is applied. I'm sure you know all this, but just throwing this out there as a a viable option for other viewers as well. Sound design for performing arts (contemporary circus, dance, installations, etc.) especially in Europe is a big one for me. The work is usually a mix of composition / producing, but includes also technical aspects of sound, like programming patches with Max MSP to create interaction with sound and the actions happening on stage etc. Granted that the work usually includes a lot of travelling which might be problematic for some people. Another one is making music for videos, teasers and other promotional material. Companies, youtubers, artists, etc. utilize professional sound for their videos to promote themselves. But all in all, what I have found for me is that you have to be able to wear multiple hats and it definitely helps if you can create the final product yourself from start to finish. Right mixture of musical skills, being able to produce creative content, technical skills and entrepreneurship are needed to make it today. Again, thank you for your videos. I'm thinking of sending you an e-mail if you'd be interested in some mentoring through Skype. You seem like a great teacher with lots of valuable knowledge! Best, Sami
Fire Away Productions
Fire Away Productions 2 anos atrás
Would love to see an updated version of this.
Harold Palmer
Harold Palmer 3 anos atrás
Rick, I know this video is almost 3 years old but thank you for the clarity in how market you own music. I have learned a lot from you over the years. Thank you truly.
Omar Torres
Omar Torres Anos atrás
Amazing video, you need to do another one after the pandemic. Keep up the great work!
jm amodio
jm amodio 6 anos atrás
Rick my man! Great video, thank you for being such an inspiration and fountain of information. Do you think that being an advertising composer is a viable main source of income(for studying or early graduated musicians)? Could you go more in depth about the profession since I couldn´t find much information about it online and you didn´t go in as much detail as the other ones? Here´s a load more of questions that have been consuming my mind ( You don´t need to answer them all. Don´t feel overwhelmed or anything, If you could answer a couple that would make my day :) How much do are they generally paid like you were saying about producers? How much jobs do most of professionals do per month? And how long are you expected to deliver a work or anticipation you have? From what I´ve heard is 2 to 5 days and in some cases even less. There are some countries where there´s legislation for a mininum you must get paid. Do you need to be located in specific cities? Or is it viable to do business over the internet?(in general, do you know personally any composer, that do most of their work online?) What are some ways you can you get inside the ads industry without contacts? Should I send portfolios and curriculums to ad agencies, audio production companies? Do I contact ads composers and ask for an internship or volunteer to help? Is there a thing such as an assistant composer in the bussiness(since it´s usually so short, mostly 30 sec)? Should I seek small clients directly myself? Right now I´m honing my craft, so I can reach a certain level of work ethic and professional quality. That´s why I haven´t focused that much on the bussiness side of it and probably am bothering you now lol. I´m learning more from your videos than in college. 1st year tho much of it I´ve learned before, but it bothers me that they discriminate not teaching us certain elements because they´re not stylistical of the common practice period. We already learned the theory and concepts(major, minor and all degrees) to apply and have them in ear, I think any student should be able to instantly recognize most popular music´s chord progressions by the end of their first year. Done with that little rant, could be a topic for a video how audiate chord progression and you can play most of what popular music has. First obviously the I VI IV V and even more, it could make a great series, maybe go into specific genres most common ones like Jazz II V I and on and on, the possibilities seem limitless. Anyways, Thanks for everything, you´re doing great things for the medium of musical education. I think you(everything), Thomas Goss(orchestration), Adam Neely(cool stuff), Dave Pensado(Audio) and Steve Reenie (on the business side) are some of the main guys who are pushing it forward here on youtube.
Dan Weber
Dan Weber 2 anos atrás
Great video Rick. Very comprehensive and easy to understand!
Stoneside Productions
Stoneside Productions 4 anos atrás
Thank you so much for this. I'm building a project studio in south Atlanta and have been trying to wrap my head around the current economic landscape in the music business and this helps congeal a lot of random streams into a succinct picture.
Jim Sanger
Jim Sanger Anos atrás
Fascinating one, Graham Coxon and Jonny Greenwood are my two favourite guitarists. You've been in my thoughts today by the way Christian.
John Valentine - Music / Guitar / Lyrics
This video is very informative. Thank you, Rick. The video was posted in 2016. I wonder if there is an update on all of the subjects you speak about here. If not, that would be a great suggestion .... maybe. I hope. Take care Rick! Rock on!
willy9t 6 anos atrás
Best and most straightforward video about the topic that I've seen on youtube. Thanks for making it Rick. I have one question, do you know of a business where one can submit music to collaborate with other more professional musicians that could take the music further? Thank you again!
Mandeep Ekka
Mandeep Ekka 6 anos atrás
Yes Rick...would be a great info about how collaboration in music industry works
Mac Anoodough
Mac Anoodough 4 anos atrás
I would say the record company's inability to see streaming for what it was and not acting on it fast enough did more damage. Like Borders Books with their opinions. The bill signed was to allow media companies to own more so they could buy start ups in the cable market as that bubble was bursting. Notice at least 3 of those companies you mentioned were all in the record company business, and had a stranglehold on it. They simply failed to jump on the new wave of technology. And the producer getting points in perpetuity was part of the problem in the old model. And 3 points on a Million is 30k. Not 300.
TheStudioDrummer 6 anos atrás
Great overview of the music business changes and where we are now. Thank you for putting this together in a clear way.
Carolyn Shulman
Carolyn Shulman 3 anos atrás
I came across this video by chance and just wanted to say thank you for it!! I've played music (mostly just for fun) most of my life, but took about a 10 year hiatus from it while I was practicing law and starting a family. Now I am getting back into songwriting and performing, and thinking of pursuing it in a more focused, professional way, but I was feeling pretty overwhelmed and not sure where to start. This video was great and really helped provide a clear overview of the basics, so now I can work on setting some practical and realistic goals. I subscribed to your channel and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thanks again!
The producer/mixing engineer point is interesting. What is the best way to begin as a producer/mixing engineer in your opinion ? What basic knowledge and experience would you recommend ? (I'm 23, bass and guitar player for almost 10 years, I try to expend to other intruments lately like piano, drums, singing, and sound design. I know the basics of music theory, etc).
Jason Charles
Jason Charles 2 anos atrás
It’s amazing that the music business is the only business where it’s acceptable for people to steal content. Frustrating. So basically we’re fucked. Awesome.
David Riley +
David Riley + 11 meses atrás
26:48 SoundExchange for digital performances(Music streaming p, video streaming, and Internet Radio) 26:57 ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, GMR for Terrestrial Radio, Cable radio, and Satellite radio Also for Terrestrial TV, Cable TV and Satellite tv
Dillip Phunbar
Dillip Phunbar 4 anos atrás
Thanks Rick. Your knowledge of the industry is invaluable. I bought/downloaded your book and am slowly working through it.
John Zadeh
John Zadeh 6 anos atrás
Rick, you are awesome! I have learned so much from you! Thank you for these videos! Happy Nee Year to you and your family!
Jack Sprat
Jack Sprat 4 anos atrás
The Beatles never learned to read music, but after playing together a few years for food and drink, got their chops down and managed to collaborate among themselves professionally and had a great producer to guide them. But yeah, it's getting tougher and tougher to make a living in music or anywhere without the right connections, talent, skills and knowledge. But as we go deeper into the "necessities" of making a living in music today, we go further and further away from what makes music enjoyable, accessible - special. If you're in it just for the money, you better be ready to do "whatever" to make it. If you're playing music because you love doing it - get with others like yourself in that respect, collaborate, make it better and play for an audience be it your friends, a parking lot, or a club. Because if you're really into the music, and can keep developing, eventually we'll want to hear what you've got to say.
NiNi Na
NiNi Na 3 anos atrás
Wow, didn't the Act of 1996 violate anti-trust laws? Sounds like it to me. From 50 to 6 corporations is a huge step. Did musicians ever team up for a legal battle against that?
I B Right
I B Right 4 anos atrás
So very interesting. I once saw Dolly Parton in an interview talking about if you want to make money in the music business be a writer. Seemed like a strange thing for her to say as such a big star but I think even she made much of her (pre-Dollywood) fortune from her songwriting rather than performing. I can play guitar like Jimmy Page/SRV/Joe Satriani/whatever, but as personally satisfying as it is, it means nothing in dollars. I do like performing but I like (and need) money too. I started playing because I wanted to do what Jimmy Page was doing. I never thought of it as a profitable endeavor but as I get older, it would be nice to get a little return on the lifetime of effort and cash I have invested.
Michael Greco
Michael Greco 3 anos atrás
Thanks Rick! Really helpful tips. It is very difficult with make a living as a musician these days, but being well rounded does help. I am a guitarist as well as a full-time public school music teacher. I make a descent living teaching, but I will perform in different bands, write and record my own music.
Pit Pride
Pit Pride 5 anos atrás
You ask great questions in interviews. You are the most thorough instructor on the internet. You give practical information for practitioners,and describe the whole process for free. Thank you!
john moser
john moser 3 anos atrás
I've watched a bunch of your videos more than once especially what makes this song great These are awesome tips and advice thanks so much Rick you're great bro
Bob Rouge
Bob Rouge 3 anos atrás
Well done Rick .... Great video .... And thanks so much for all that info... Cheers ✌️
n0g4rdd3r 3 anos atrás
Gear vid! Thanks for keeping it real Rick. Much appreciated.
Sky's Sound Therapy
Sky's Sound Therapy 4 anos atrás
Hi Rick, thanks for this brilliant explanation! Now, I was wondering if a UK-based artist needs to sign up to Soundexchange or if it's the same as the MCPS in Britain or the GVL in Germany? Thanks, Linda x
Steve Tenney
Steve Tenney 4 anos atrás
I enjoy your videos. Your delivery and authentic love of what you're doing shows through big time. Great work, great presentations... thanks.
Ashley NepTUNE
Ashley NepTUNE Anos atrás
Great info, honest, to the point, much appreciated : )
AsitisToday 4 anos atrás
I think I will write a book on how money used to be made in the Music Business as it is all downhill now. Having played for 55 years it is very sad to notice the lack of opportunities for up and coming artistes
Yitzi Lax
Yitzi Lax 3 anos atrás
It's incredibly depressing. I remember when I was a teenager I loved pirating all that music, but as I got older I realized that I was actually killing the thing I loved most. If you are a true music fan you need to find a way to get money to the musicians. For that reason I try to go to live shows and I always purchase albums now. Music lovers must take responsibility to pay really money to show that the industry can be profitable so artists can have leverage. Artists need the freedom they used to have if we stand any chance of seeing another zep or pink Floyd. My only hope is that people will eventually get sick of crappy soulless over produced music and search for something else which I hope will lead to a revitalization of the music industry.
James McNamee
James McNamee 5 anos atrás
Hi Rick, thanks for the great video. I have just come across your channel and am finding it extremely rewarding with a wealth of wisdom for someone who is just starting out. I do have a question: Do you know many successful writer producers that do not - or aren't that great - at playing any instruments? I've never learned, though I am self teaching myself keys at the moment but progress is slow. I do however possess a good knowledge of music theory and believe I can write a good tune (my strength lies in engineering/producing/mixing though). All the best, James
Cesar D. Marin
Cesar D. Marin 6 anos atrás
Thank you so much Rick! Very insightful! I love your vids and they had made me a better artist and musician
JON JON 4 anos atrás
Hey Rick, long time follower - I appreciate you so much for these videos and your honesty! I'm a young guy, I feel I am an exceptional writer plus I do the rest of the things (produce, engineer, play etc..) How would you go about presenting yourself to a label? What do you think my portfolio should look like / consist of?
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