Reading While Black: A Conversation with Dr. Esau McCaulley

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The Impossible Thespian
A conversation I was not expecting. But a conversation I needed to hear. As a white Woman, it didn’t click right away, but when you mentioned reading the Bible from a woman’s perspective, The light came on. Cuz it’s amazing looking at the Bible from a woman’s perspective. I’ve also started looking at it from a Jewish standpoint to help me understand scripture better, Even though I’m not Jewish. But if I’m honest, there are a lot more black people surrounding me today than Jews. And I need to read from their perspective too, cuz 1. It’s going to enlighten God even more 2. This is meeting them where we are at and diversity won’t actually happen until we come together and see how God has touched their lives in a way that I will probably never completely understand, but I can see the beauty and rejoice along with them because God is so Good to us ALL!
Cynthia powell
Cynthia powell Dia atrás
This pretty young lady knows her Bible very will bless her and family wow I love to hear her bless Lord Jesus. More and more from her blow it’s the word🙏🏾📣📣📣📣📣📣👏🏾💃🏽📚🌧🩸🔥🔥🩸🏃🏾‍♀️🥰
Cynthia powell
Cynthia powell Dia atrás
Seek frost Matt 6 : 33 ask he hears us when we call him Matt 7 : 7 ask his time is not our time wait on the Lord he will show him self yes John 3 : 16 for God so love the world wow look 👀 world Jesus Read all is well in him❤
Cynthia powell
Cynthia powell Dia atrás
Bless you the Bible is love letters for us to read it till us what our Lord Jesus is saying to each one of us we are so love and cared for our road map home he gave his all for you and all of us that’s love ❤️ John 3 : 16 read psalms139 read all our God cards for us all Just walk with him he will walk all the way with you read Hebrews 4 : 1 -16 rest in him I’m so glad my Lord cards for me I know he’s walking with me teaching me alone the way keep lister and reading God’s word all true love you ❤my sister be bless ok all is well in him rain 🌧 on us all Lord have your way Amen 🙏🏾🏃🏾‍♀️🙏🏾📣📣📣📣🔥🩸📣📚💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽🧎🏾‍♀️🎶♥️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Uche Mês atrás
Good idea but only problem would be that you're not the person of whom you're imitating perspective. So you won't accurately be able to read the Bible from their perspective. Might come far from doing so. Maybe instead you could ask these people what the verses or passage mean to them?
Elizabeth Billingsley
Elizabeth Billingsley 3 meses atrás
I am doing the same thing!
Sh88 5 meses atrás
Topic ideas for future episodes/seasons: 1. Equally yoked/unequally yoked friendships 2. The commodification of pastors (pastors being the “face” of the “brand” for churches, so to speak) 3. Impact of social media on the church 4. Communication in marriage 5. Raising children in a culture that is increasingly hostile to God
Danie Savage
Danie Savage 5 meses atrás
Heavy on #5
Ken Duncan
Ken Duncan 5 meses atrás
Number 3 would be great.
Tamara Michelle
Tamara Michelle 5 meses atrás
Love to hear them speak on spiritual gifts
Abel Ebenezer
Abel Ebenezer 5 meses atrás
No. 5! 💥
GDNewsGDFashion 5 meses atrás
I also think a conversations around new age spirituality and Christianity. Does the Bible affirm or deny new age spiritual practices.
siyamazi ndwandwe
siyamazi ndwandwe 5 meses atrás
"If you think what is normal is what you do in majority culture & The unity means everyone adjusting to you, then that's not unity it's colonization "💪
James Holcomb
James Holcomb 5 meses atrás
No, it's definition
Melo 5 meses atrás
Leslie Anderson
Leslie Anderson 5 meses atrás
This is the one!
AWAKENED Life 5 meses atrás
THAT part. Epigenetics is a thing. Just as black folks deal with the aftershock of enslavement, white folks deal with the aftershock of enslaving. That shows up in MANY,many different ways including masked colonizing in religious and educational spaces🤷🏾‍♀️
Kayla Barjon
Kayla Barjon 5 meses atrás
@Dee E right!
Danielle Stephenson
Danielle Stephenson 5 meses atrás
“We all need each other to discern the mind of Christ.” Whew 😅 I already know I’m gonna be listening to this over and over because this group is great. Thank you so much for this conversation.
JOAB Philosophy
JOAB Philosophy 5 meses atrás
I've never seen Jackie physically express so much interest and enjoyment in what a guest was saying this season as much as she has shown this gentleman. 👏🏾
Laronda Minto
Laronda Minto 5 meses atrás
It's hard to push the emotion and tears down. Many of these very topics are the reason I separated from a congregation that I cared deeply about but came in conflict with during the height of 2020's racial conflicts and protests. I've been unable to connect to a church since due to my own personal trauma and trust issues. This podcast was so validating and I'm grateful to the Holy Spirit. My heart is full to know God does care just like I thought He did. Please pray that God will heal my entire family and lead us to a place of worship and community. 🙏🏽
ricecristi 5 meses atrás
Same same
Latanya Yarbrough
Latanya Yarbrough 5 meses atrás
I enjoyed this conversation and will listen to it again! There should be a part 2.
Rod Hairston, MA
Rod Hairston, MA 5 meses atrás
Such an important conversation! And such truth. The nations (ethnicities) are represented throughout the Bible. White culture Christians seem to think "all nations" is just a cute phrase in the Bible.
Beautiful Tones
Beautiful Tones 5 meses atrás
This was so so good! I feel like I need to listen more than once. I got goosebumps 🙌🏾 and wanted to throw my shoe in agreement so many times!
ricecristi 5 meses atrás
Same! I also bought the book, it’s even better than this podcast. Go bless yourself with it if you haven’t already 💕
VoxQuest 5 meses atrás
Dr McCaulley!!! Yes! God made me African on purpose; and my redeemed culture has its incomparable contribution to make to the Body of Christ!!! Preach It!!!
Andre 5 meses atrás
🔥🔥🔥🔥 so thoughtful and so helpful both for my personal life and for ministry in my specific context! Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏💙
Sharon Mbabazi
Sharon Mbabazi 5 meses atrás
Jackie and Perrys facial expressions are Gold.
kimmy8188 5 meses atrás
I’m 5 mins in and I already know I gotta watch this twice. This is to good
Nouhr Munyutu
Nouhr Munyutu 5 meses atrás
It’s awesome. It’s really just necessary to address anything that could be a stumbling block to a fellow believer’s faith even if it is uncomfortable or you feel like it doesn’t directly concern you.
Noble 5 meses atrás
I’ve just taken it for granted that THE Lord of ALL Justice will right every wrong and WILL handle with righteousness and honor EACH AND EVERY monstrosiy of wickedness “Black” people have had to endure here on earth. Not one “tiny” little misdeed has escaped His eye; not one “small” dishonoring, disparaging word has eluded His ear. He KNOWS what has gone on and it WILL be recompensed. We’re talking about THE Lord of Righteousness. There IS nothing unjust in Him. I know He will DO IT because this is His nature and He cannot be otherwise. Therefore, I don’t get caught up in fleeting conversation about man’s “opinions.” My focus is on THE Faithful One... THE One who will do it. HE WILL.
S W 5 meses atrás
Yesssss and Aaaamen!!!
Totti Taylor
Totti Taylor 5 meses atrás
Need a part two pleaseeeeee!!!!!
Deborah Riley
Deborah Riley 5 meses atrás
I had been sitting in the pews as a born from above Jewish believer for 20 years. A precious black pastor came into our life, my husband's and mine, and through our friendship, he and his wife contributed so much that only the black culture could. He was elderly when we met him and we had a close connection with him for 20 years. We came to understand and empathize and have compassion for and admiration for what they'd been through because of color. He also helped me to realize that this thing we call Christianity is really Biblical Judaism as opposed to Rabbinical Judaism I identified with this discussion with Dr Esau McCauley because, as a Jew, I'd been led to believe I was now a Gentile and had nothing to contribute. When Brother Ben and sister Sylvia Mitchell came into my life, they honored my identity, as we also did theirs. So if Dr. McCauley speaks again with you, I'd love for him to expound on the contributions he sees that are needful to the body of Messiah from the black culture.
Dee E
Dee E 5 meses atrás
This conversation is so good! I can listen to y’all talk all day. I bought Esau’s book when it 1st dropped & gifted it to a few of my Black & White Pastor friends. Also, I have Josey Johnson’s Hair & the Holy Spirit. Lent is on its way! 🤗🙌🏾🖤✊🏾
Hosanna 5 meses atrás
Wow. Thank you, my consciousness has been raised through this conversation. I’m going to find your books, sir 👏👏👏
V O 5 meses atrás
Mercy - this took me back to my first Black Studies class in college, except with Jesus!!! Love him, will definitely buy all the books . Thank you Perry's. BTW, loving the intro music and the videos 💜💜💜
Autumn 5 meses atrás
Allll facts! So happy this was addressed because it’s the most agitating thing about being a black Christian.
Dee E
Dee E 5 meses atrás
I agree 100%!
Kimberly Snell
Kimberly Snell 5 meses atrás
"I want my daughter to see people who look like her following Jesus". 😍 These past couple of years i felt led to implement more culture into our library for our family to read. We had books by Ben Carson,on Fredrick Douglas, and Martin Luther King Jr. but i wanted us to expand even more. i've been grateful for biblical teachings of Thabiti Anyabwile and John Onwuchekwa as well as podcast such as this, Let's Talk, and Knowing Faith. Have read both of Jackie's books, gone through Jude (and now the teen study with our daughter) and Dahati Lewis' Among Wolves and Advocate. Jasmine Holmes' book Carved in Ebony for young readers arrived last week and i'm reading it before passing it along = ) It's exciting to hear Preston is working on one as well! Your discussions have been insightful. i hope it encourages you to know there are brothers and sisters in Christ who want to learn from you and see more clearly.
Creativity Unbound
Creativity Unbound 5 meses atrás
I could listen to this another three hours and still want more thank u for this interview!!
Brianna Trujillo
Brianna Trujillo 4 meses atrás
Straight FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!! THANK YOU, Perry's for doing this interview. How enlightening and liberating this has been for me. Glory to God!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
tru thought
tru thought 5 meses atrás
Just ordered Reading While Black and Josef Johnson Hair and the Holy Spirit. This interview was dope and I’ll be watching it a second time.
Stephanie Flowers
Stephanie Flowers 4 meses atrás
I purchased the book this weekend and cannot wait to start it!!
Ivy Crockron
Ivy Crockron 5 meses atrás
This is a very valuable discussion.
Elainey D
Elainey D 5 meses atrás
This. Was. So. Good!!! “An ecosystem of black writers”👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Love these each week!!!
AWAKENED Life 5 meses atrás
My God, I Absolutely ADORED this episode🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 We need to have THESE types of conversations 💪🏾💪🏾
babe1love1 5 meses atrás
So many GEMS in this conversation. It can be it's own Bible Study!
JoAnna Duke
JoAnna Duke 5 meses atrás
Wowww!!! All the snaps 🫰🏾 all the claps 👏🏾 This conversation was amazing! Dr. Esau was dropping too many gems, Lord. Ima have to rewatch a few times and pick up those books!!
Rhonda Clark
Rhonda Clark 5 meses atrás
I absolutely love this brother and this discussion . I had not heard of this book but I will definitely be purchasing it .
Ayana Jones
Ayana Jones 5 meses atrás
My God!!!!! If I had a handkerchief I would have threw it at my phone in hopes that’d it hit Brotha, Doctor, Reverend, Professor Esau in between the lenses of his spectacles. Lol The wisdom and truth communicated on this episode was 🔥
Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis 3 meses atrás
I love this comment lol 😂.
Debi Bernhardt-Schuhow
Debi Bernhardt-Schuhow 5 meses atrás
Me too!!
D.D. Jones
D.D. Jones 5 meses atrás
I have thoroughly enjoyed this discussion!! Thank you!
Desiree Lucas
Desiree Lucas 5 meses atrás
Both Jackie's and Preston's expressions throughout this...😄 but love the book and the conversation
Calvin Berry
Calvin Berry 5 meses atrás
11:33 is a powerful statement Dr. Esau just made. He just answered my question in my head…. Got it…….
Ifeoluwa Ogunsanya
Ifeoluwa Ogunsanya 5 meses atrás
Thank you for having Dr. Esau McCaulley, this was really insightful.
stassy ROZE
stassy ROZE 5 meses atrás
I appreciate the heck out of this episode. All the subject matter on point 👍🏾
Lauren 5 meses atrás
AMEN!!!!! HE WILL WIPE EVEY TEAR AWAY… HE WILL WIPE AWAY.. E V E R Y TEAR. Thank you Father. I can’t wait to see you Jesus.. I’m tired of the hate and the fear , here on earth.
Elijah Perry
Elijah Perry 5 meses atrás
I knew I recognized that name. Just graduated from Wheaton so Ive heard of Dr. McCaulley on campus, glad to see him on the show!
Potential Caroozin
Potential Caroozin 5 meses atrás
AMEN! Christianity is intersectional, I’m a white hispanic/white passing? And growing up in a church in Coney Island, you could feel Gods love through the sharing of culture, American black people, Puerto Ricans black people, brown skinned Hondurans, white hispanics, etc etc. And it was never because we DIDNT share our cultural differences. Of course, sharing ethnicity helped to relate, but we also shared class, and most importantly, our passion for Christ. I related with a lot on this podcast, it was so easy to empathize, especially after moving from Brooklyn to a rural town in the south of VA. Now I *understand* why I, despite being white passing, felt so alienated from that church. They didn’t *know* any other ethnicities, or cultures, or how to contextualize the Bible, much less in a biblical way. This isn’t a Christian verse, but I’m beginning to understand, “never attribute malice to what could be explained as incompetence.” This podcast is gift from GOD. It is relevant to problems in the church right now, it speaks to many people. It is the crux of what biblical evangelism should be. Thank you, God bless your ministry.
Abel Ebenezer
Abel Ebenezer 5 meses atrás
Man! This conversation blessed me richly!
Jenni Olson
Jenni Olson 11 dias atrás
Amen! This was so good ! I am blessed and excited to have learned more on this subject. It makes sense that we have different redemptive stories… As the body of Christ we need to see this, black,yellow, white ect….listen to each others stories, read Dr Esau’s book! Thanks for doing this one its super important! I grew up in a multicultural setting I don’t understand where everyone is coming from,but I care! I believe i care about this because God has work for me to do .. to educate myself and others, pray and ask the Holy Spirit to empower me to speak up for all his people. Lets seek knowledge and understanding and have conversations about what we learn saints and Aints! God is good and all the time God is good!😊 For real, Jenni
Kurt Lyon
Kurt Lyon 4 meses atrás
This is a fantastic conversation. Thank you for sharing this.
nnenna itanyi
nnenna itanyi 5 meses atrás
Loving the consistency guys!
Swat Kasham
Swat Kasham 5 meses atrás
This was SO good!!!
M Ramirez
M Ramirez 5 meses atrás
I now have a new WTP episode to listen to and a couple new books to buy. Wonderful cast. Thank you
stassy ROZE
stassy ROZE 5 meses atrás
I am so blessed and convicted by this segment 🧐
Eunice Park
Eunice Park 2 meses atrás
Wow. As an Asian American constantly trying to relearn and unlearn, I found this video very insightful and informational. Thank you so much for sharing!
Rose Jacob
Rose Jacob 5 meses atrás
This is such an important topic. So relevant.
Jefe 5 meses atrás
Mind blown. Excellent conversation!
Verona Austin
Verona Austin 5 meses atrás
Love this conversation
M A N D Y Y 4 meses atrás
This was too good! Y’all def have to bring him back
All About The Williams
Maaaaan this was soooo ON POINT! I really hope I can comment this… My husband wrote “ONE is NOT One” -Reconciled and Racist-- Talking about this very thing! Let’s talk about this y’all!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Lisa Taylor
Lisa Taylor 5 meses atrás
Really good interview!!!
Lauryne Amanda
Lauryne Amanda 5 meses atrás
This was so encouraging for me
Elizabeth Billingsley
Elizabeth Billingsley 3 meses atrás
Loving this! We have to talk about the hurt before we heal. Alot of people don't want to do this b/c they are afraid. We have to put off fear in this nation so we can deal the hurt of racism so we can heal. No repentence, no justice, no peace, no healing. This is where we are. I hope we will choose repentence so we can heal.
papi77on 5 meses atrás
Good stuff, thank you!
Patricia Herrera
Patricia Herrera 5 meses atrás
17:52 Jackie’s smile. Also Dr. Esaú: how nearly are your listers Me: 🤓 yes I replayed this section! Come on!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Agirlnamedkeith 5 meses atrás
This was too good!
Alice Wonder
Alice Wonder 5 meses atrás
Dee M
Dee M 5 meses atrás
I need to stop watching BRvid so I reduce the number of books I think I should buy 😭, I have his book in my cart. Can’t wait to read it
Kristen Hill
Kristen Hill 2 meses atrás
Sooooooo good! 🙌🏾
Anton Brooks
Anton Brooks 5 meses atrás
I know what I am going to say is going to be unpopular. I love being black. I have a black wife, with black kids, black parents, a black owned business and so on. But as i mature in my faith, I realized that my faith can't be in my suffering, gender, ethnicity etc... Not that those things are not important to me, but none of those things can save me. The only way for all regardless of color is through Jesus Christ, so ultimately I am going to follow Paul the Apostles lead who also suffered and place my Identity in Christ because that's where my salvation rests now and eternally. The only worry i have with this video is, Christianity or salvation can't be defined or relegated to a small segment of people. Christianity and salvation is for all people. We all fall short, we blacks are sinners too. We kill, we murder, we enslave, we lie, we cheat, we steal, we conquer, we kidnap, we belittle, we destroy, we burn, we mutilate, we have homosexuality, infidelity, all manner of sexual sin, witchcraft, we have suffered, we have caused suffering, we rape, we set ourselves above other people, we exhibit pride, we worship idles, we have fallen short of Gods standard. Just like every other man and woman who ever lived regardless of race or ethnicity with the exception of Jesus christ. We are not special, we can't save ourselves, we can't earn salvation, we deserve hell just like everyone else, we are not better than others, we are not worse than others, for we all fall short. None of us make to heaven expect through Jesus Christ. *Side note, I have been studying history a lot lately, and found that the horrible things that happened to slaves fro Africa in the Americas is not unique. The vikings enslaved and killed murdered other Europeans, the Khans other Chinese, African nations against African nations, there are millions of people who have been kidnapped and are forced to work as sex slaves even today . Millions of Africans have been killed by Africans, Millions of Europeans have been killed by Europeans, same with Chinese, middle Easterners, etcetera... The suffering our ancestors went through was unspeakable but not unique. Some of the Europeans and African countries warring against each other did not even bother to enslave, they just murdered millions of people not on the other side. Ultimately it is not a skin issue it is a sin issue.... hence why I believe each and everyone of us needs Jesus Christ.
Melissa S
Melissa S 3 meses atrás
Ditto everything you said. I have been redeeming my education in history as well and what I think is a lot of what they said can be summed up as framing the Bible from a position of trauma/victimization. My gender (woman) is not the same as blackness. Handling finances is not the same as my blackness. God created me as a woman, blackness was created by man and also distinctly in modern America. Also, I reject the idea that I need to see someone that "looks like me" do whatever I aim to pursue. I don't remember that being a major thing in the 90s. I could watch the Cosby's, fresh prince of Bel air, and Clarissa explains it all, Sabrina the teenage witch, etc (pretty sure I'm showing my age) and it wasn't a big deal to me. Back then, we could relate to any of the characters that had similar circumstances as me regardless of their race.
WhenGraceCalled 5 meses atrás
Come on colonization. “I’m black on purpose.” Whew! 🙌🏽
Shine Light Ministries
Shine Light Ministries 5 meses atrás
Too good!! Thanks family
Deshon Holmes
Deshon Holmes 5 meses atrás
I wish this conversation was longer
Phyllis Believes
Phyllis Believes 5 meses atrás
This is good dialogue!
Cecily Davis
Cecily Davis 5 meses atrás
I’m running around my house!!!! GLORY!!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾💕🙌🏾🙌🏾💪🏾🤎
Cynthia powell
Cynthia powell Dia atrás
Amen thank you let’s be real 🔥🔥🩸🩸🩸🙏🏾📣📣📣📣📣📣
KivaDiva MUA
KivaDiva MUA 6 dias atrás
This is one of my top favs!!!
C. Rochelle
C. Rochelle 5 meses atrás
It is so important to read the Bible in its context... culturally, ethnically, etc. God does not erase culture... period. This has been so damaging to our people. There are groups of "they" who benefit from this "one size fits all" interpretation (read Psalm 83:3-5). If you know who Israel is then you'll know who "they" are and they don't want that ESPECIALLY when it comes to eschatology. It's simple. God bless 🙏🏾
CharMeezy21 5 meses atrás
Not me yelling, “Take it there, take it there” 🤣👏🏾
Ashley Watson
Ashley Watson 5 meses atrás
Just ordered his book!!!!
Senty M
Senty M 5 meses atrás
He speaks so fast 😅😅, grateful for this content ❤❤.
Malambo Ngwenya
Malambo Ngwenya 5 meses atrás
My facial expressions were similar to Jackie's cause the truth shared here
Rose Jacob
Rose Jacob 5 meses atrás
So we'll explained. Bravo!!!!
Tamara Michelle
Tamara Michelle 5 meses atrás
The problem with non black Christian’s is that they do not want to admit the black body has been devalued … because we can’t agree on that we can’t move forward with true healing! 🤷🏾‍♀️
JOAB Philosophy
JOAB Philosophy 5 meses atrás
3:17-7:04 the man could have started passing a collection plate right here! The truth!
Montese 5 meses atrás
this was so good
Rohnesha M. Horne
Rohnesha M. Horne 5 meses atrás
That was awesome.
CCS 5 meses atrás
I think it would help if the professor described us as an ETHNIC group instead of merely a race of people. #ADOS #LineageMatters
Alyssa 5 meses atrás
Wow this was fire 🔥
Ekiya Knight
Ekiya Knight 5 meses atrás
This was so good man
G 5 meses atrás
Facts good brother from christ I need to get his book
Greg Bradshaw
Greg Bradshaw 4 meses atrás
When Rev. Dr. McCaulley called out how we American White Christians respect distinct cultural white theologies but not American Black theology I realized I need to start reading more American Black Christian work and listening to more American Black Christian speakers because they have much to teach about the liberation found in Christ. Thank you for this interview!
Bree Harris
Bree Harris 5 meses atrás
Sheesh!!! This was just too good!
Chantell S
Chantell S 5 meses atrás
Incredible ...
Susanne Fiore
Susanne Fiore Mês atrás
So does that mean that if you're a woman you read the Bible and interpret it differently, if you're a man, if you're Chinese if you're Arabic whatever you are you read the Bible from whatever your own perspective is so does that include homosexuality they can read it from their perspective and they can justify their behavior or whatever it is that they think is normal to them?
Allegra Acuff
Allegra Acuff 5 meses atrás
Man when The Perry are looking like Billy Madison in a Kindergarten class, you know the talk is good. Never ever seen both of y’all soooooooooo engaged at the same time. Beautiful… This talk is fire tho!!
Japeria Williams
Japeria Williams 5 meses atrás
PeaceChiillax 6 meses atrás
12:30 Yaass a redeem black culture for the purpose of Christ🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Agirlnamedkeith 5 meses atrás
@PeaceChiillax I think it’s implied. They said that because they can confidently speak from an African American perspective.
PeaceChiillax 6 meses atrás
Can we also say a redeemed African culture for the purpose of Christ? 🙌🏾
Ranae Barker
Ranae Barker 5 meses atrás
Mr. and Mrs. Perry and Dr. Esau McCaulley, Thank you for this conversation, I will pass it along. However, will one of you three or all, help support me in publishing my journal? In support I mean tell me how step-by-step. Thank you
Phoebe Davis
Phoebe Davis 5 meses atrás
And you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free
Ken Duncan
Ken Duncan 5 meses atrás
27:30 What a word about Ephraim and Manasseh! Wow!
Carla Draffen
Carla Draffen 5 meses atrás
Okay. I hope this comment section is a safe place. Here goes….I have a hard time reconciling black Christian men who continue to talked about black issues but marry white women. Then want to write books about black hair. I’m honestly struggling with this. I don’t want it to but it legitimately bothers me. This was a good conversation though. I enjoyed it.
Carla Draffen
Carla Draffen 3 meses atrás
@Lisa Burke Thanks, Lisa. ❤️
Lisa Burke
Lisa Burke 3 meses atrás
I am praying for you. Sometimes, things don't get reconciled on this side of eternity. Sometimes, the goal is the transformation and strengthening that comes only through the wrestling. May the Spirit of Christ both comfort and strengthen you.
Carla Draffen
Carla Draffen 5 meses atrás
@CreativeWriteHer Thank you for your comment. While I agree with your thoughts I still have concerns with us only being allowed to presume the best possible likelihoods and not allowed space to deal with presumptions that may not be ideal but just as true if not more. I just want to be clear, that I enjoyed the conversation and thought it was very insightful like I mentioned in my original comment. I’ve enjoyed Dr. Esau on many of other panels and platforms as well. And again, I would love to be unbothered by these types of circumstances, but am. If you feel inclined, pray for me. ❤️
CreativeWriteHer 5 meses atrás
This may be an area that you need to give to God, sis. His studies and career path may have led to predominantly white environments. Regardless of how or why, his marrying a white woman does not make him any less black nor automatically lessen the discrimination he may face. In fact, it may make it more prominent. Also, his disdain for how the evangelical church views blackness does not have to be translated to all white people in general for it to be true. Additionally, his studies of the Bible seem to have led Him to some truths of God's word: His love transcends culture, socioeconomic status, and race, and He has charged the Body of Christ to be unified even though many continue to refuse. Esau may view his ability to love and marry a white woman (in the face of American racism and all he has learned) as a testament to His faith and trust in God. Or, he could just really love her. No matter the reasons, the truth of his message can only be diminished by our own biases and hangups, not his family. This man did not create racism, so it is not criminal for him to rise above it. Be blessed
Carla Draffen
Carla Draffen 5 meses atrás
@Scott Watson Oh brother. Here lies the problem. Wishing you and your IMO the best. Good day, Sir.
Mary Price
Mary Price 5 meses atrás
Loved what you said Esau about Christ's rejection of the evil done to black people by resurrecting them! God's response to Cain murdering his brother was Genesis 4:10 "And He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground." Even in death the Lord hears the cries of the oppressed and violated! Justice will be served praise God!! As an incredibly scared little white girl I was lovingly taken in by my neighbors who were of mixed race. I was so incredibly blessed by their family and culture and finally felt a freedom from my social anxiety that was crippling at the time. I felt sort of rescued by the black culture in many ways so this video just warms my heart!
Mary Price
Mary Price 5 meses atrás
@Debi Bernhardt-Schuhow Absolutely! I can't thank God enough for how he used His church to minister and protect me!
Debi Bernhardt-Schuhow
Debi Bernhardt-Schuhow 5 meses atrás
So precious, you received a God given gift.
Rez Lyrix
Rez Lyrix 5 meses atrás
Stopped watching just to let Dr Essau know that The Perry’s have some nerds as fans because I’m one of them.
Gustave 5 meses atrás
God: Jacob I loved, Esau I hated. This guy’s parents: we will name him Esau
Brenda M
Brenda M 5 meses atrás
I was actually thinking about this the other day. What do I want to look like in eternity? I know I will be black, but will I still be looking like my overweight self, do I need to lose weight now so I will look better in eternity? Yes, I know I will be totally healthy. Then I say to myself, who cares??? You will be with God. 😄😄😄
S. Ward
S. Ward 5 meses atrás
This is gooood!🤎💯✊🏾
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