Ranking the 40K Combat Patrol Boxes - 40K 10th Edition 

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"combat patrol is now balanced?" GW: Yes. "By the rule writers?" GW: By our accounting and marketing department.

Ironically, the khorne daemon box is even better if you play Age of Sigmar...

The deathguard box is actually just a tiny bit better since those poxwalkers are ones from the old 8th edition starter set, meaning they come with the torso and backpack parts of a plague marine. So since there are 3 poxwalker sprue’s you can easily kitbash 3 extra plague marines to make a full 10-man squad. Also typhus is a decent base model for a lord of contagion kitbash since they don’t sell those anymore. Just switch the top of his scythe with a spare plague cleaver and maybe use a different head.

Hey , when will you guys rate the combat patrol boxes?

cannot believe how accurately the 'you're the kind of person who sees twenty khorne berzerkers and goes YYYEAH BOYY' described my reaction to that combat patrol. just absolute savagery here.

A tip for anyone getting into the Imperial Guard with the combat patrol, on the new sentinel kit don't glue the top armor plate on. It fits pretty well and allows you to swap between scout and armoured.

I'm so mad Boarding Patrols went the way of the Dodo so fast. A bunch of them were great complements to the Combat Patrols, and a few even better than them. Is there even a way right now to get Farsight and Snikrot?

Just got into this hobby with Leviathan after years of being too scared to try it. You guys have been essential listening!

About the DG patrol: It secretly comes with 10 plague marines. You have all the bits to make 3 extra marines except for the bases so it's not that bad.

As someone getting into world eaters, I think that the box is a great starting point for getting into the army. The discount is actually really, *really* good, and buying just one has you well on your way to a 1000 point army, with a bunch of stuff you will most likely be using in every game you play

I will defend the World Eaters box as a good one to start with. This is the equivalent of the intro box we didn't get like LoV got. It doesn't help our army has a small dedicated WE range but it covers everything your gonna run in most lists.

The AM combat patrol box lets you experience the Expert Bombardiers side of the faction. I find it nice.

Bought the previous Necron Combat Patrol for my son 6 hours before the Combat Patrol rules dropped. Had to send it back and get the pieces for the new one individually (Thank you ebay) but damn that was a rough start to our 10th edition. lol

Oh man. I am literally just dipping my toe into 40k now after enjoying killteam and I'm wanting to jump into Deathguard and I really appreciate the heads up with their combat patrol. I'd love a video where you go into a "getting started with a 1000 army" for each faction for 10th edition

The Grey Knight boxset is also one of the only ways to get the old Terminator Librarian.

Funny thing about the Genestealer Cult box is that the one model you may not want multiple of (the magus) is prime kitbash fodder for AoS so you can probs sell them online super easy.

As someone who has played guard and is planning on getting back into the game, the Astra militarum box is pretty good value for me since it's basically all new stuff.

I managed to find the Tson box for $94, so i essentially got the 20 Tzaangors for like 8 or so bucks. Arguably maybe still just get the IM and Terms, but at least it was an actual discount.

I feel like the old guard start collecting box in addition to the guard combat patrol would make for a really solid army, I did that and it worked quite well. And I bought a baneblade. No further explanations.

You forgot to mention that the World Eaters Lord can also be built as Lord Avocado, one of the army's best and most universally important characters. And on a second buy you can build him as a standard lord so you dont have repeat name characters.

I played 40K years ago and tried to get back into recently. I went GSC after being a Guard player just on the box alone.

I love the guard combat patrol, it has a lot of the cheap troops "that you just need" and all the newest nicest models and in the end of the day models are forever but rules change. So its a great way to add the basis for a guard army that is super expensive so this is a good discount. a couple of these and some tanks and you are good to go!😁

In case anyone was wondering, its fairly easy to bash the farseer and a jetbike into a jetbike farseer. you can just swap out the head and the sword arm. If you are feeling adventurous, you can try to fit the robe overtop.

The Votann boxes drive me crazy because they have exactly half of what I need at any time after the Army set.

Engineseer does make a fun base for an inquisitor with thunderhammer

37:00-37:23 I'd love to hear that discussion and rant about the Mono-God Chaos Legions. *Especially* Emperor's Children, I need to know what umbrage is taken with them. Because I *really* hope they give Fulgrim's Legion some beautiful models.

Having bought the Chaos Marines box I can confirm that the Havocs come as per the stand-alone box, you get 2 of missile launchers, lascannons and autocannons, 1 heavy bolter, 1 reaper chaincannon, it's not too bad if you build 2 pairs and ideally load the helbrute with whatever you didn't use.

Another reason the Genestealer Cult box is amazing, is the acolyte kit. It comes with only 5 bodies, but enough weapons, heads and limbs, to where you could easily make 10 more acolytes with for example a Cawdor ganger kit.

With the new edition the Tau box is good to pick up twice, if you like breachers get 3. A cadre per breacher squad is good, you kind of want 3 ghostkeels if youre a metachaser, 2 for a rounded collection 1 at least because theyre real good. Ethereals are the only component where the second one is a maybe and the third is a no. So just get 2. (You can easily use all the stealths you get) so yeah the box had a huge glowup for this edition

I'm still working on finishing off my CSM army, but I *really* want to pick up the Drukhari and Khorne Daemon patrols to add to my pile of shame.

As a Necron player who has a collection already, I much preferred the old combat patrol box. It was really more of an expansion pack for people who bought into necrons with indomitus or the other 9th ed starter boxes. I get why they're changing the box, it just sucks for old collectors, who get to reminisce about the past and how you could get warriors for dirt cheap. It also suck for new collectors getting into the faction because they have to hear about how good it was from the old collectors lol.

I think the Tau box is pretty good in the new edition. The ghostkeel got a massive glow up in 10th. The fireblade gives a big buff and you might take one in every single squad. We will see where the meta moves, but fish of fury lists with lots of breachers in devilfish seem pretty viable atm, so having two or maybe even three units + fireblades doesn't sound terrible. The ethereal farms command points for Tau, and while you can't get more than one per turn you can still run multiple in a list to make it very unlikely to fail generating. They can even sit in reserves all game and still be useful. This model might be the most likely to become less useful with rules updates, but rn it's good. The stealth suits are the only unit I don't see you running a lot of, but they are not really the biggest part of the box anyway.

Ok, so I've said it before, and I'll say it again. When the DG Combat Patrol box released, there was a legal army in the box (in 2 ways). First way is a bit odd granted, but you could fairly easily get an extra 3 marines using the Poxwalker sprue, I did it with basically zero experience. Secondly, in regards to the amount of Poxwalkers you could field: You couldn't field 30 anyway as that put you over 500 pts (PMs were either 21-23pts back then, PWs were 6, and wargear wasn't free). At release Typhus, Putrifier, 7 P Marines, and 20 Poxwalkers costed around 490 pts...before even considering wargear. (Also, to be clear, I'm just talking about when it launched. Point drops made this and a couple other boxes drop below the 500pt mark) All that being said....I'd say there is some value in the box if it's your start and you can get it at a good price (I got one for $112, so a bit biased with it being under $3 per model XD). However it's definitely not for everyone.....especially due to it being "oops all Poxwalkers", which I could live with if they weren't sooo monopose.

Note: the latest update for 10th (July26) You can play plague marines in 7man squads 16:03

I feel called out for the WE combat patrol box. Literally bought it, Kharn, angron, and a MoE with the intent of throwing away all thought process and just rushing the enemy

The command squad in the IG box is honestly not that bad if you wanna get multiple boxes. Just give everyone in the extra command squad and a special weapon and swap them in and out of the other squads depending on your list or kitbash a castellan.

the DG combat patrol isnt actually that bad when you realize theres secretly 10 plague marines in it because of the way the poxwalker sprue works. so with that its not too bad if you were able to pair it with one of the christmas bundles or the DG half of the 8E dark imperium set

I’m actually getting into GSC partially due to your previous glowing recommendation of the GSC combat patrol Considering how good battleline are in GSC I’m actually thinking of grabbing up to 5 to make my army, the neophytes are needed, along with acolytes Metamorphs and Aberrants are icing and while the truck I may never use 5, can be converted into (odd looking) rhinos for my other armies (I play DG…)

Good episode; I wish you guys had ranked them in order.

Counterpoint: if you intend to *also* build an AoS Disciples of Tzeentch army on the side, then the TSons combat patrol is great! Just build the Tzaangors how you want to run them in AoS, and it wont even matter on the 40k side

Fun fact, you can make three additional Plague Marines from the Combat Patrol Box .

A friend of mine at my local gamestore he made a New combat patrol box units and it is exactly the same only he removed the artillery thing and added a leman russ tank and it works good

Guard Collector here. The guard box is great! you get it often 40% off from third party retailers. Buy 3, have a solid start with flexible support Platforms (bombard/heavy las), all command squads you'd ever need (commander double as cadian cadtellan), 60 Infantry, which is about right for combined arms guard army of and a full squad of sentinels. everything synergises. fill in your list with firepower any any sort and you got a decent start for a guard army.

Another issue I've found with the ORK set, is the Warboss in mega armour can't join the boys. So if playing regular warhammer out of the box, he has to be all on his own.

The leviathan box also comes with 2 rule books (in one, the core rules and crusade), a mission deck, a SWEET transfer sheet, and 6 objective markers. Plus 5 people are gonna get every new model. Niche stuff considering all the rules are going to be online for free; but something you have to weigh in on.

To be fair, the guard one is quite nice. Like, buy 2 or 3 good. You will end up wanting 60 guardsmen, 3 sentinels and you can get the extra bodies from the field ordnance to get another squad too, especially if you want to run some heavy weapons (same for the 2 command squads)

I got my self both the Combat patrol and boarding Patrol of Chaos Daemons. I'm not gonna lie, I like Slaanesh more and I would of loved a box set of each of the chaos daemons. but I do enjoy Khorne as well. The main reason I also got into Chaos Daemons Is due to the fact I can use the models in both 40k and fantasy, Granted the rules for each army may be different like AOS has a full khorne faction In the form of Blades of Khorne and Chaos Daemons is meant a mix of all 4 daemons, but I am glad they got rules for single god armies too. My goal is to get another Combat Patrol daemons later so I can have a Solid collection of ground groups and get 3 more crushers to make a full 6 man sqaud. Then move on to other things like a Shrine of Khorne and of course a Bloodthirster

I thought the biggest issue with the Space Marines combat patrols was the Impulsor that always seems to be thrown in to inflate the value, since Impulsors are almost as free as Rhinos.

For plauge marines, you can actually build 5 normal plauge marines and 2 icon bearers. So technically, you get 1 unit and 2 characters per box.

This was super useful (I'd tried a few games of 9th but had a poor experience not because of the game but because of the unorthodox format one store was using - I wanted to give 10th a fair chance), thank you so much!

I would argue the WE box is amazing as a one time buy then you have all of those units you'll ever need.

I am about to jump into warhammwr 40k, got myself a Leviathan box. Was looking to see about getting another combat patrol box or two, to have options for playing different factions. Amazon had the Thousand sons combat patrol for $85, figured with that price it would be worth it. GW stuff is extremely rare to see discoubted. I guess bcuz it one of rhe worst boxes😂 cant wait to play though 😊

So if you can find the old Necron combat patrol, 1 is good especially for someone with nothing. It has the best version of the overlord. Immortals and Deathmarks are good ( and the deathmarks make 5 more imoortals), tomb blades are playable as well as the Doomscythe. Another fun thing is right now RAW, the nightscythe has no model limit for what it can carry, just 1 infantry unit.

I ended up with 3 engineers myself buying various Admech force boxes. Kept 1, gave one to my guard friend, and kitbashed the third into my marshal

I'd say a Tyranid one is pretty good because you will always run fleshborer termagants. Not because they are good, but because tervigon can refill only fleshborer ones, and you want them to die before your expensive ones. You really gotta think of nid troops as "which models should die first?". Though I don't know if I can still mix them in new edition...

As a guard played the combat patrol is amazing, it's one squad of 25 people ak extra sentinel and some fun field guns, picking up 2 or 3 is worth It if you field troop guard.

I started my first army 10th edition with the guard combat patrol box, ive been a fan of them since i first learned about 40k, and all i can say is the field ordience guns inflate the box points so much and become awkward fitting them in a list @120pts

And now I don't feel bad about blindly buying the Dark Angels combat patrol =D thanks Poorhammer

Well for Orks you have the problem with the warboss in mega armour which can only be combined with meganobz, so if you wanna build from it you’ll have to get yourself some meganobz and a new character for your boyz to make it work

Buying the World Eaters box exactly twice is good tbh. You get all the Berzerkers you'll ever really need, all the Jackals you'll ever want, and the Juggernaut lord kit also makes Lord Invocatus, so you can get both him and the generic one at a discount. But it is true, my brain did light up immediately at the sight of that many Berzerkers.

Slight correction on sisters silence: In main 40k their squad size is a minimum of 4 model, so you could make 2 knight centuras little issue in gameplay

Getting into this game with 10th edition and learned the hard way that Guard are brutal with lack of points in their box. The good news is at least the Sentinel can be swapped between armored and scout variants without needing to magnetize, just don't glue down the canopy. Honestly for new guard players it's at least good savings, but that brings in the other issue of savings only being good because Games Workshop overprices a lot of their models to begin with. That said, the models all look great, have a very cohesive look and a 1000 point army can be comfortably achieved by picking up 2 combat patrols, a tank of your choice (I went for a leman russ), and filled in with more troops or a named character unit. Ursala Creed is very tempting and commissars are fun to field. In the end this will run you $400-500 which... oof, but that's the price of little green men I guess.

As a former player wanting to get back into the game who used to run Dark Angels but has always had an interest in Orks and Chaos Marines, possibly Thousand Sons specifically what boxes would you recommend? I know for Orks you said its kinda meh, also gotta say the idea of the "oohh boi 20 Khorne Berzerkers!" for World Eaters is accurate lmao, I do love the idea of a total meme army that's not meant to be competitive in any way that's just "charge at full speed and turn everything into red mist in glorious melee" so I can go either way, Orks or World Eaters on that one, I do love my tactical gunlines as well though which is where the Dark Angels, possibly Thousand Sons interest comes in (I first learned the game in 6th edition when Rubricks just straight up killed Tactical Marines with AP 3 guns lmao) plus the Dark Angels hold a special place in my heart as the 5th edition models were the very first 40k models I was ever introduced to so I'd love to play them again, plus I love their lore and Primarch

The new admech Combat Patrol is now ~265 points lol, truly masterful work from GW

You could always pawn/trade a second Admech Combat Patrol's Enginseer to a tank-happy Imperial Guard player.

For the admech box you could kitbash the engineer into a techno archaeologist using the ranger/vanguard spares. If your cool building your skitarii without their two attacks hitting on 4s baton you can put that and a pistol onto a engineer to make him a technoarcailogist to join a vanguard squad and the engiseer to join the rangers

You can now run a 7 man plauge marine squad for the death guard

Have they actually confirmed that the Space Marine / Tyranid combat patrols are going to come in combat patrol boxes? I assumed their combat patrols were like, the equivalent of the contents of the new starter set or the recruit and elite starter sets for each faction put together. Especially since the winged prime and the termie captain come on conjoined sprues

Feel like they should do a big knight and a warglaive and make that the imperial knight combat patrol. Puts the value at about £140 so not far off some of the other combat patrols. I would definitely buy it.

I'm a Necron lover so I was a bit dissapointed that they didn't get a box. But what is out there is pretty neat.

About those Chaos Space Marines ... Sure, it does suck that the Havocs do not come with more weapon options ... BUT the regular marines come with both a heavy bolter and a missile launcher, so you can actually make a havoc squad that will shred infantry, by using those parts!

The world eaters box was abolutely perfect for me, massed berserkers and 10 man squads is how i plan on running them, especially with a DP giving them invulns

The guard box is good option for getting the masses of troops needed and the command squads to help them. Sentinels are pretty much a must have in 10th, but the box gets lacklustre after you get 3 of them, the FoB are best served in the bombast flavour. But you can only field 3 units of them. Still, buying the set for everything but the FoB still works out cheaper and they can either be sold or turned into terrain pieces/objective markers. The parts to make the crew can also be used to make sure your masses of troops have some variety A Leman Russ would be more favourable as a true guard commander can never have enough of them

Be nice to see a buy guide as a returning player I’m scared of grabbing bits for the new nids as they have stated they are getting more kits and I don’t know what else will get updated sculpts. I can see the warriors getting one so you can get shrikes but that’s as far as I can guess

new to w40k here; i got lucky and got a couple boarding action boxes i wanted. also went overboard and got three combat patrols and some random sets... drukhari boarding action & combat patrol seemed like a good value for both of them and not too much duplicates. now if only i could also find a tau boarding action... as tau boarding action was great value at 55% off and cmdr farsight out of stock everywhere...

I'll say this for the WE combat patrol - it's an army where you do have a LOT of small conversions to do. Beyond the fact the Lord on Jugg nets you a spare Power Pack and Helmet/Head, you'll often need a few spare Berzerkers for conversions of stuff like Terminators.

The combat patrol for death guard includes enough part to build ten plague marines because it uses the sprues from know no fear but you have to kit bash them

It's important to note that armies do play a drasticaly different game in combat patrol. I got a game of tyranids vs orks in last night and the tyranids have a solid shot at winning but the clutch of the army is the termagants. In combat patrol the tyranids highest strength weapon is on the psychophage and I was still wounding my buddies ork warboss and deffdread on 5's at best. Due to the termagants being able to bring back a shockingly large number of models every turn even after the units get wiped you can totally win the points game. Overall it felt pretty balanced but it did feel like I was playing a more strategic game and he was playing a more "how many gants can I kill a turn?" game

Havocs come with 2 autos, 2 heavy bolters, 2 las cannons and 2 rockets with one chain cannon. If your super determined to have a 4 man squad with one weapons choice you can chop off the barrels on an auto cannon, stick a smaller barrel on it and it looks like a heavy bolter

What do you guys think about the leviathan box value wise?

Well damn, the allure of genestealer cults is getting a lot harder to avoid now. You might have convinced me here... EDIT: three days later, I now own GSC.

I'm kinda torn on the new Necron Combat Patrol. Having picked up Recruit + Elite Edition, the old box looked quite appealing for expanding what i already have. The Night/Doomscythe is meh but the rest of the box isnt too bad for adding variety. Adding to my: 20 warriors, an Overlord, a Royal Warden, 3 Skorpekhs and 6 Scarabs it mostly seems pretty useful. The new box is just Elite Edition + Doomstalker. Saying that you want the extra warriors and skorpekhs at some point and the Doomstalker is such a cool model. It only really would change the order id get stuff in.

There's a couple extra issues with the Sisters combat patrol as well. The main issue is that the combat patrol doesn't scale well if you're looking to expand the units in the future (without kitbashing). One issue being that the Serephim aren't equipped with any special weapons, so you're running pretty lackluster units and picking up an extra box of serephim wont give you the ability to equip them with 8 hand flamers for example (if you buy 2 boxes of zerephim you can pretty easily remove the hands from the combat patrol models to kitbash the extra weapons tho) The other big issue for me is there's no way to buy the 5 additional repentia to bump the squad to a full squad which means your army will always have a half-sized repentia squad since repentia only come in boxes of 9 with a repentia superior (if you don't mind sacrificing your arco-flagellents you can kitbash an extra repentia using the arms and head from a proper box of repentia if you can remove all the mechanical elements from the models back). As a helpful tip for Battle sister squads, if you have a standard battle sister box, you can assemble both a heavy flamer and a heavy bolter and mix those with the preset storm bolter and flamer from the combat patrol squad to make their weapon choices a bit more efficient. Just a bummer that they're so set in stone with their loadouts especially coming off the militarum combat patrol which was pretty good for building whatever loadouts I wanted.

Just found you guys... Getting back into Warhammer - AoS and 40K. Dig the content so far, keep up the good work and try not to suck.

Do you think the death guard box is mroe value now that they announced plague marines can be taken in 7s?

The Necron Patrol worked out kinda good because I've got all the stuff except the doomstalker via Imperium Magazine, so like 4 issues @ £8.09 (I get 10% discount at Forbidden Planet) plus £24 for the doomstalker comes to £56.36. Also got the Space Marine and Sisters ones via Imperium but minus the tanks - so Space Marines is like £25 plus whatever an impulsor costs, but the Sisters I think is like £40 plus a Rhino.. I guess you can proxy that with any old rhino though so in that case Rhinos are free and the Sisters Combat Patrol is super cheap via Imperium.

Thank you for this insightful analysis video!!!!

As a world eaters Player you nailed my reaction. All my lists include 20 berzerkers and 10 jakhals so my brain is literally „20 berzerkers! Yeah boiii!“

CSM Havocs do have 2 of each gun (except the chaincannon) so it isn't as bad, but still agreed. Note to beginners: Do NOT build them like the Combat Patrol format tells you to!

I bought my friend that old Necrons box to help him get started, and it’s been nearly two years. Dude hasn’t even opened it yet.

Managed to get the Gua... *cough* Astra Militarum box dirt cheap at a store in Australia a few months back. There's NOOOO WAY I would pay the normal costs on it though, Totally agree! But I'm using I.G as a mix with my Dark Angel army.. so it's got what I need, to help build the army that I want. I'm unsure if I wanna keep the field guns though, woulda preferred a tank in there.

I do love the value for points in the Sisters box but I played a couple of games of combat patrol and they just didnt seem to hold up against a few of the others, it seemed to me that the restriction of having 1 ten lady squad was a significant downgrade in a small game where objective control matters, the tank's firepower is abysmal which is okay since its a transport and then a big damage sink on an objective.. but repentia just seem a lot weaker in 10th for some reason, they dont chew through big things like they used to and for seraphim, the lack of hand flamers is a real killer, they only matter for maybe an end of game point scorer... big up the penitent engine for doing its job well tho

I didn't know Space Marines were getting a new Combat Patrol box so now I need to get the current on ASAP. I love Phobos marines so I guess I need to stop procrastinating and just get it. I've already missed out on SC Space Marines and SC Blood Angels, I don't wanna miss out on these guys too.

I'm so glad I haven't impulse bought buying the deathguard box. Hopefully they'll give em more interesting rules soon™️ and fix the box.

Unless it's already been done I'd like to see a video on the combat patrol format/game mode for 10th edition.

The Guard one may not have a lot of points. Its still agreat value msrp $160 vs $244. The only thing you dont really need double of is FOBs. But its not a deal breaker.

Thanks for doing this episode as my FLGS has announced plans to do a slow grow League and I am debating which army that would interest me to start collecting.

Drukhari is SILLY good. Like showing up in clown shoes good. The SM boxes all make me sad. Votann not getting either of their tanks also makes me sad. Loved the comment about WE players.

some points on the Astra Militarum box: 1. FOBs have always been one unit 2. Sentinels of both flavours are pretty good in 10th 3. It seems like half a box because it is half a box lol- it's literally just the cadia stands box without the codex and datacards