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Modern Music's Death By Auto-Tune

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In this episode I discuss the over use and impact of Auto-Tune which has become ubiquitous in all genres of modern music.

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NameOfPersonNumber
NameOfPersonNumber Hora atrás
Imho as someone whose Into synths etc., I agree with the ultimate premise, and think auto tune is used inappropriately, However, there are ways to use it that allow for this same "dynamic expression." You're still have rhythmic freedom. I try to think of it more like a keyboard voice at that point. It's synthesized. If you're gonna acknowledge it's synthetic nature it can do wonders for making a track uncanny and off. That said, most people let their tools write for them instead of writing for their tools. The problem with all synthetic music is that people let it become their master, rather than realizing you have to master your tools. That's why there is never a substitute for theoretical knowledge and your skills as a player. Its the best defense versus the control modern tools will exert on you if you don't make the effort.
Fernando Saab
Fernando Saab 8 horas atrás
I understand your point Rick but auto tune is an aesthetic choice nowadays, is part of the sound. If you can hear the effect like in a trap song its an artistic choice, like the excessively nasal sound of grunge vocals. they sing well but this artistic choice makes me wanna die, like the excess of auto tune to you. its just a trend, and there is a lot of good use on auto tune nowadays, it is just a tool to make music
RavenCreations
RavenCreations 12 horas atrás
I'm totally with you. Autotune has ruined most modern music. I don't even like it being used as an effect - it's just cheesy, like the electronic drums constantly used in the disco era. I just cringe when I hear Cher. If singers can't hit the notes, they're not singers. They have one job - to sing the lyrics to the notes of the melody. If they can't do that, they're in the wrong job. Of course, a real singer puts personality and emotion into their singing too, but autotune strips out any of that, leaving a lifeless computer voice that could have been sung by anyone.
Channel Family
Channel Family 14 horas atrás
Rick Beato is very important o us Mr Algorithm
Slammy555
Slammy555 15 horas atrás
Texas and facts is is the worst rhyme I've heard, though rhyming danger zone with danger zone is up there (he gets points because he wasn't trying to hide how bad it is). Even if they didn't have the best voice they wrote music to suit their sound. Sinatra is a good example, didn't have much range so he recorded songs that didn't require range, and Dylan's voice is real but is it good?.
Rusty Gold
Rusty Gold 17 horas atrás
Who mostly wins the TV song shows ? People who have had a back ground of practising live . Whether at Church or a Club . Who has the songs we love and play at weddings ? The ones who 's early careers were at live venues !
Shannon Mckitterick
Shannon Mckitterick 17 horas atrás
All the best to U Rick n family I really enjoy ur analysis I BELIEVE MUSIC IS TRANSMITTING UR SOUL uknow REAL
Marco Castillo
Marco Castillo Dia atrás
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HotrodCow (Wes Morrison)
Agree 100%. I prefer Melodyne, but NEVER correct everything. I often shift entire phrases first instead of individual notes, which preserves the feel and makes individual note tunings (if any) require less radical changes.
Sharoon John
Sharoon John Dia atrás
This is why you are the best, Rick!!
Louise Bonivento
Louise Bonivento Dia atrás
I am! Death TO auto tune. Kill it with fire NOWWWWWWW!!!! Ugh :( Lol. I automatically turn off any newly released 'pop' songs if they've been really over the top (badly) auto-tuned. I can't stand the stuff! Lol 🤪😝 Omg, who is that woman 'singing' that you played?! YUCK. I used to sing and if somebody did that to my voice on a recording (etc) I would feel seriously insulted. Maroon 5, don't do it. Stop it now!!!!! 😭 LOVE your videos & totally agree with you - and your kids! Lol ❤💋
ChildOfThe1970s
ChildOfThe1970s Dia atrás
Karen Carpenter's voice was so perfect that she didn't need auto tune. I just can't stand what they call music today.
Legion of Weirdos - ADHD & more - Christopher Mast
Regarding the Queen example - fun fact, a lot of the heavy lifting in the harmonies was actually done by Roger Taylor, the drummer. No shade on Freddie, who was an absolute god, but Queen had three very good singers.
LockeTheCole
LockeTheCole 2 dias atrás
Autotune as a gimmick is fine, if it's your whole band's schtick or a singer relies on it, that's where it becomes boring. I think the gimmick autotune will be looked at down the line like the vocoder, quaint, out of date, but sometimes used to great effect.
Dino Svenningsen
Dino Svenningsen 2 dias atrás
You are so much on point. I tried to explain this sooo many times.. And you did it in under 15 min.. Tnx! Now i just have give them this link ;)
Kevin Stevens
Kevin Stevens 2 dias atrás
Recently saw Summer of Soul documentary and was just blown away at the pitch and intonation of the performers - especially on an outdoor stage with very minimal 1969 stage monitors. I was thinking the same thing - singers were just better back then, because they HAD to be. There were not the shortcuts of today.
Beorn The Bear.
Beorn The Bear. 2 dias atrás
It's time to get back to practicing. I haven't heard Tarja use auto-tune that I can recognize as auto-tuned. She just practices real singing. Auto-tune some times sounds like a duck being strangled. Listen to Tarja's live music, Occasionally a note is a tad flat or sharp, but it's very rare. I don't think Ian Gillan, Bruce Dickenson or Rob Halford use it either. They can blow me out of the water live. My tip is if you need autotune to sound good, practice real singing more until you get it right.
Steve Steele
Steve Steele 2 dias atrás
And then there's Whitney
Robert Walker
Robert Walker 2 dias atrás
i read several years afgo that jeff baxter devloped pitch shifting is there anything in that?
Ralph Goldheim
Ralph Goldheim 2 dias atrás
Good call Rick! We used to have to practice our harmony notes with a strobe tuner (if you remember them) Roy Tomas Baker did some of the Starcastle albums also and they learned many secrets like tracking with a compressor and bouncing the harmony stacking layer after layer each time with compression blending the singers different vocal harmonics and formant structure together ending up with a WALL of Chorused VOICES. Autotune is just like Eventide Harmonizers were in the 80s - overused and digital reverbs when new were overused and washed out the voice mixes compared to today. Toy Matinee was one of the first bands to have the balls in the early 90s to mix the lead voice completely dry dead in the center and they still sound 'modern'. Love your Blog and we should talk about how ROM sampler players killed keyboards and made them sound dead. It took DSP modeling to bring it back. Still nothing sounds like a real Hammond. Peace.
mohammad amin daneshvar
try hatsune miku. computerized not autotune
macewbee
macewbee 3 dias atrás
Good point I think on Netflix on what pop music T-Pain had explained it good and even with the inventor had pointed this out also with daft punk from there movie unchained I think when R.I.P. Anthony Moore when he song One More Time and Too Long they used a talk box or talk box or what ever it's called and great video I never knew about this.
That_Canuck_God
That_Canuck_God 10 horas atrás
Daft Punk uses a vocoder a lot, talk boxes are different than vocoders. T-pain is actually a good singer without autotune, but uses it for the effect.
Kalle Laakso
Kalle Laakso 3 dias atrás
Autotune is an instrument. Where are the rants about drum machines and synths? Synthesized, computerized and what not. Things change. Elderly people in the 50’s were disgusted by rock’n roll, 70’s by synths, 90’s by CDs, 2000’s by ”autotune”. See a pattern?
Altered Animesh
Altered Animesh 3 dias atrás
I'm not an anti auto tune .........................I have to say I'm not an anti auto tune......................I don't hate auto tune but.............again I'm not anti auto tune
Alejandro trepiana angeloni
You are si right!!! Autotune killed modern Músic and singers....Also i can care less for.maroon 5 hate those voices. Another thing to notice is that modern Músic lacks vocal harmonies, si present in classics like The Beatles,Beach Boys, Carpenters, Eagles, etc
Flavius Fake
Flavius Fake 3 dias atrás
Drives me crazy the singing now. Sounds like a robot in a cave to me...
music man
music man 3 dias atrás
old music, full of soul and nature, texture and idea, new music, plastic fake popcorn crap. no soul!
music man
music man 3 dias atrás
Thank thezz German for this plastic fake-ness in the vocal world, days have gone with epic artists like Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin, people that could really sing, they didn't need tech to morph them into talent, they already had it!
Danny Castro
Danny Castro 3 dias atrás
I thought I was the only that was bothered by that Lenny Kravitz harmony
On Wheels
On Wheels 3 dias atrás
Worst offenders have to be Michael Bublé's Christmas album producers. No idea why he let that get released.
The Fozzy Bear
The Fozzy Bear 3 dias atrás
Just like photoshop in photography, it's a tool to use at times but it's used all the time in every photo.
Doc Lockridge
Doc Lockridge 3 dias atrás
Why do people use the example of purposely abusing autotune to pan it. It's simply a tool.
Rein de Vries
Rein de Vries 4 dias atrás
I see a parallel with rhythmic quantization and clicktracking. When the dutch band The Analogues were working on reproducing Beatles albums they noticed slight tempo fluctuations. These fluctuations add to the liveliness of the songs. Just like a groove in a good rhythm that cannot be reproduced by a drum computer a good singer's untampered pitch is a source of expression.
John Foster
John Foster 4 dias atrás
Something I never hear mentioned is that autotune is pulling notes to the nearest note that an keyboard would play, so equal temperament. But the voice should not be restricted to those notes. Part of the reason the voice and fretless instruments like violins are so beautiful is that they can be slightly sharp when they need to be and aren't restricted to the notes that a keyboard is restricted to. So while autotune may fix a poor singer by moving noted to the pitch of a keyboard it will also make a great singer sound worse by moving notes that sound great a few cents flatter to match the equal tempered scale.
John Foster
John Foster 4 dias atrás
Autotune has done more damage than good.
SP30305ATL
SP30305ATL 5 dias atrás
OMG I've been saying this for so long. I can't stand it. I listen to singers on youtube like Alice Kristiansen and local soloists or 2-person bands at the pub who are just playing and singing. Frampton's talkbox use and Styx's Mr Roboto were fun as a novelty, but every pop song sounds like a robot is singing these days. These singers need to be careful, or they'll just be replaced with AI and VR. What's weird is some of the pop stars actually can sing if you hear them do an unplugged acoustic performance, but a producer or someone must be telling them their voices must be roboticized to sell these days I guess.
Jedimaster420
Jedimaster420 5 dias atrás
I been saying this for years . F autotune
pinkdispatcher
pinkdispatcher 5 dias atrás
What I find most annoying is that even good professional singers like Pentatonix autotune their studio recordings to death, because of a (perhaps mistaken) belief that "that is what the market wants". I've heard them sing some sessions without AT (or melodyne in their case), and they're pretty good, but all the studio recordings sound completely, "perfectly" dead. What's really nice on the other hand are the top-notch classical ensembles like (still!) the King's singers or, more recently, VOCES8, which are great without autotune.
Samuel Feynman Tribute page
I still use Manual-Tune.
Cedric Debono
Cedric Debono 5 dias atrás
You really need to do an episode about Devin Townsend's godlike pipes. His work with multilayering vocals is mindblowing.
CrazyCow500
CrazyCow500 5 dias atrás
It's a technology that's used to make art. There have been plenty of technologies introduced in the past to improve our instruments' intonation: this isn't any different. You can make the same argument for compression and EQ. "The singer should learn to manage their dynamics naturally". "The engineer should learn how to ride the fader perfectly into the recorder as to manage quiet and loud passages. A device that does that automatically is killing music!" "The singer should manage their tone so they fit perfectly against the guitar" "Sucks that the mixer had to take that 400hz out of the guitar that was masking the vocal. The guitarist should have just dialed that in at the amp or just leave it on the record. Now its ruined because what we hear isn't how the guitarist sounded in real life" Is it wrong for a painter to trace a circle using a plate or does he have to draw it free hand? And then we all can appreciate the character from his imperfect circle. Music isn't about how hard you tune your vocals or if you decide to tune them at all. I guarantee you I can find you PLENTY of music that doesn't use autotune on vocals that you won't ever want to listen to ever again. The idea is to make art how YOU want to make it. Autotune if you want; don't if you don't want. Thats not the important part. The important part is the expression. You can't care about how tuned a vocalist is on the piece of art you're consuming before you fret about that fact that they didn't even write the damn song.
Dale Danser
Dale Danser 5 dias atrás
Karaoke-the last bastion of Not Auto-Tuned music!!
Wannabe Wallaby
Wannabe Wallaby 5 dias atrás
TL:DR just get good lmao
m ch
m ch 5 dias atrás
Something unnerving about it….!!! As are the millennials who know nothing else.
princess kenyetta
princess kenyetta 5 dias atrás
Art dies continually.
Robert Frapples
Robert Frapples 5 dias atrás
Whenever I detect "Auto-Tune" I automatically turn it off. It's tantamount to distortion to me.
Benny the Pooh
Benny the Pooh 5 dias atrás
You can learn so much from this guy about the workings of the recording industry. Bravo 👏
Steven Templar
Steven Templar 5 dias atrás
I'm always suspicious of songs which rhyme. It seems to me that the second line was a compromise at best because instead of saying something interesting, it is just a bunch of words which end in a rhyme of the first line. Conversely lyrics give the impression that they are smarter when they Don't rhyme.
ShikataGaNai100
ShikataGaNai100 5 dias atrás
I have been a blues/rock singer since 1966...and I hear you loud and clear. Sure, Autotune has it's place...studio time costs big $$$...but, it is not an excuse for just sucking!
pavelkalinine
pavelkalinine 5 dias atrás
Thank you very much! Music is made in industrial way and such a volatile business items demand tools to make "songs" fast and in vast amounts. Hence Autotune is inevitable.
Alex Paulsen
Alex Paulsen 5 dias atrás
"Making every voice sound like a computer". There's probably some computers out there right now that are offended by that statement.
Rain SilverSplash
Rain SilverSplash 6 dias atrás
Mr Beato, I agree with almost everything you said, but Autotune is just the last glaring blow to music from Digital Audio Processing. IMHO the most serious blow was audio equalization, using companders (compressor/expander) to remove all expression from music, removing the rousing, thunderous passages that excite us, played against soft, tender passages that touch our hearts, giving them all similar amplitude. As a producer what is your opinion of such "equalization" and DAP in music production in general?
Nomadic Recovery
Nomadic Recovery 6 dias atrás
What’s interesting is Rick has not aged Except the hair Which is epic Not older Just different
Guglielmo Corvetti
Guglielmo Corvetti 6 dias atrás
I agree with you Mr Beato, but I think singers need to learn to signs better, anyway, try to listen to Demetrio Stratos, who was originally from Greece but he finds success in Italy, he used the Diplofonia really well.
RM 1876
RM 1876 6 dias atrás
Hard to explain.. to me... If it's used as a clear creative tool, I don't mind it. Like adding delay, reverb or even a pitch pedal to a guitar. But, if it sounds like they're trying to hide the fact they can't sing, it shouldn't be considered a vocal performance.
ronnie saras
ronnie saras 6 dias atrás
im certain milli vanilli never used autotune! they just didnt sing
Wolf Blitzer
Wolf Blitzer 6 dias atrás
Lets hope so!
Zusha Goldin
Zusha Goldin 6 dias atrás
There's so many incredibly talented pop singers, yet their producers insist on using autotune even though they don't need it. I don't understand it.
Tony Edwards
Tony Edwards 5 dias atrás
Less takes = less expensive studio time and therefore more money over time.
Dave Cameron
Dave Cameron 6 dias atrás
Goddamnit, I have ZERO knowledge of music but am hypnotized by Ricks mastery of it! Can’t stop watching!
cryptoWAVE Radio
cryptoWAVE Radio 6 dias atrás
There is no right or wrong way to make art. Music and art always change thats the beauty, things sound different in the mainstream each year, it's actually breathing new life and re-inventing, obviously humans like the way it sounds cuz they consume massive amounts of auto tune songs. theres still massive amounts of artists not using it. Inviting new tools will never be the death of anything. Blue grass is massive right now, Billy Strings is huge with young people, snarky puppy also HUGE with young people. Music keeps expanding daily, I think auto tune is beautiful, I think dub step is beautiful, I think jazz and classical are also beautiful.
Anthony Oresteen
Anthony Oresteen 7 dias atrás
Who is Maroon 5?
ShikataGaNai100
ShikataGaNai100 5 dias atrás
Maroon 5 was heavily Autotuned; they are actually Maroon 4.5.
Eric Braun
Eric Braun 7 dias atrás
This is one reason I love Nightwish. GREAT performances and music and no autotune. And, BTW, they are a "modern" band, performing and recording to this day.
dlm
dlm 7 dias atrás
It’s about control, it always is. Authority always attempt to bully the individual, political, musical, societal control. It’s just pisses you off in this arena. But it’s friggin endemic.
ElectroPig Von Fokkengruuven
Kraftwerk still freaks people out who've never heard them before... d;o)
Markiian Harbych
Markiian Harbych 7 dias atrás
Rick turned himself to Beatoftune :)
Tucker's DJ Mixtape Podcast
As usual, I agree with everything in your video. Though it's a great example, I kinda always liked the "yeah, yeah, yeahs" in this song because it sounded different from the straight-nostalgic production Lenny Kravitz had done up until and even through the rest of the Are You Gonna Go My Way album (to my ear at least).
Vinícios Bergamaschi
Vinícios Bergamaschi 7 dias atrás
I’m also an autotune hater. I hate the fact that you don’t hear the voice of the singers anymore
T Sterling
T Sterling 7 dias atrás
In other news, old man hates autotune
Grant
Grant 7 dias atrás
I mean, I agree with the overall take here, but in my (very limited, hobbyist) experience, Auto-Tune is way behind Melodyne and has been for basically a decade. My opinion is that Antares has continued to be successful and enjoy the "our product is synonymous with pitch correction" status solely because a) it was the first to reach that status and has that brand name recognition, especially with the pro-tools purists crowd, and b) because of people who want to get that classic vocodery Cher effect intentionally. I've been blown away by Melodyne's ability to just subtly nudge the one cringe pitchy note of a performance back around a tonal center without removing the character and humanity of it or touching anything but the one note that needed attention. I feel like these days, most of the time when folks (at least, laymen like myself who don't have perfect studio ears) can really hear pitch correction in a genre that doesn't call for it, it's because the engineer has an Auto-Tune license and that's just what they use and they haven't seriously spent any time trying Melodyne and comparing the results. 🤷‍♂️
Dave Kuhn
Dave Kuhn 7 dias atrás
Also, this was a harsh realization when I saw Surfer Blood live. That dude cannot sing live at all. It was a shame, too, cause their songs are good.
Dave Kuhn
Dave Kuhn 7 dias atrás
Everyone should watch This is Pop on Netflix, especially the Auto Tune episode. T-Pain got all the hate in the world for doing something creative with auto tune. He really was just pioneering a new technology that people took off the rails.
That_Canuck_God
That_Canuck_God 10 horas atrás
And T-Pain can legitimately sing well without it, but still used it for creative ideas.
Anusideral
Anusideral 7 dias atrás
Old boomer yells at cloud.
REED RICHARDS 2
REED RICHARDS 2 7 dias atrás
What would be of the BOYS BANDS wirhout autotune? 😀😀😀😀
Blink 182
Blink 182 7 dias atrás
THATS OK RICK WHEN YOU OLDER YOUR BEING CRITICIZED THE POP SONG THAT REALEASE IN YOUR OLD LIFE COME ON BABY BOOMER 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Blink 182
Blink 182 7 dias atrás
AUTO TUNE SAVE THE ASS OF BTS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
David Vasilas
David Vasilas 7 dias atrás
Can you auto tune a track, then add chorus to it to install synthetic imperfections? Maybe it's already being done...maybe the autotune programmers will add a "naturalize" button to perform this feature. I've never used AT...
Eric Holub
Eric Holub 7 dias atrás
Rick, Do you think if there were a mod on auto-tune that gave much more flexibility like ultra fine tuning in cents it could actually sound more human? Also I wonder if one were to employ effects to the auto-tuned vocals like chorus, reverb or delay how that might actually add more character to the sound. I've always found myself with making music there are always things and interesting directions to go that will break you free from those limitations. Things that electronic or characterless tools that IF one thinks to put forth more effort into different ways to help mold and shape it to make it more interesting and add character to it. As you say it's all about NOT being perfect. That is exactly why with synthesizers you add detuned notes together to add harmonics that give it a much more rich sound than just that one "perfect" sound wave.
Chad Eaton
Chad Eaton 7 dias atrás
You made a video about auto tune?
FeatherStep
FeatherStep 7 dias atrás
Really great vid. I learned a lot. I was shocked when I heard some of todays big names sing live. 😬 For me, the two master vocalists that intrigue me for their precision,beautiful timbres and skil are Sarah Vaughan and Lara Fabian, who is still going strong. Do you think think the culture will ever change back again to pop singers who can actually sing (and be rewarded fot it)?
David Anderson
David Anderson 7 dias atrás
Autotune: How they killed good music. Autotoon: How they killed the Cars movies.
Allan Roser
Allan Roser 7 dias atrás
Judith Durham from the Seekers..
TheRichNewnes
TheRichNewnes 8 dias atrás
An example of a singer who never would have needed autotune: Karen Carpenter.
TheRichNewnes
TheRichNewnes 5 dias atrás
@Dale Danser And both taken from us too soon.
TheRichNewnes
TheRichNewnes 5 dias atrás
Absolutely. How many octaves coulld he cover.? Ridiculously talented.
Dale Danser
Dale Danser 5 dias atrás
A great example. May I suggest Freddie Mercury as another?
MrTemplerage
MrTemplerage 8 dias atrás
Well at least we'll still have live concerts.
Douglas Scott McCarron Indie Movie and Music
Auto tune isn't the issue, people who can't sing or play their instruments is. Not that no one can today but jeez, a lot of post production. Let me just say Bobby Hatfield.
David Plummer
David Plummer 8 dias atrás
comment on CSNY?
Frank O'Hagan
Frank O'Hagan 8 dias atrás
What would they have done with Michael McDonalds work on Steely Dans Peg? How many times did he track that singing in different keys?
N- IGGERS are USELESS
N- IGGERS are USELESS 8 dias atrás
the music business has not been nice to your body
Klaus Popp
Klaus Popp 8 dias atrás
Great Video ! Another example of singers not useing AT ist Jon Anderson of YES. what a fantastic voice !
Cliff Ingram
Cliff Ingram 8 dias atrás
Oh the irony... The BRvid break was for a free trial of - AutoTune.
adrum grande
adrum grande 8 dias atrás
I agree the singers in the past were better singers. Today’s listeners settle for mediocre music!
Tom O'Flaherty
Tom O'Flaherty 8 dias atrás
Another trick relayed to me when I was in college 99-01 was if a singer was unfixably flat, was to run the tape at a lower speed when recording the vocals although it had to be done sparingly as it was noticeable. I’ve often wondered if that was done on the early Madonna tracks when she had that squeaky ‘girl next door’ sound or whether her voice just got deeper as she got older….
Devon35
Devon35 8 dias atrás
George Michael never needed it, also one of the best singers ever along with Freddie.
Houston Creative Media
Our imperfections are what make us unique. The process of improving oneself is the essence of what it means to be human. Bravo Rick. Spot on.
NIKO & the SINISTER BLUES
i always have to think about the version of believe by cher in south park
Brent Kaufman
Brent Kaufman 8 dias atrás
I'm not a musician. I strum a guitar. All I know about music, before watching this video, is that unlike 30-40 years ago when I could recognize notes more easily when tuning my guitar, I now use a dinky freeware 'auto-tuner' to tune my guitar. I'm looking at the title of this video thinking, wow, is using my auto-tuner to tune my guitar really that horrible? How can my more-in-tune guitar be ruining music? It's soooooo much easier than playing the 2nd string 5th fret and first string - 40 to 50 times squinting my eyes and getting closer and closer to the string to fine tune my frickin string. I'm thinking, I'm out. That's it. Rick, you're too demanding. After the video Emily Litella: Ooooooooohhhh, that's completely different. Never mind.
Max Hirsch
Max Hirsch 8 dias atrás
As a Deadhead, I have no worries that any of their studio tracks were autotuned. Vocally they basically harmonized for about a half hour back in 1970.
Prince Plotena
Prince Plotena 8 dias atrás
0:28 Man, I can't believe the early 2000's was already 20 years ago.
Gary Konas
Gary Konas 8 dias atrás
Great explanation and demonstration.
Joe Dombroski
Joe Dombroski 8 dias atrás
No auto tune or drum machines. I miss the old days.
Tim de F
Tim de F 9 dias atrás
Wow. This one was overdue. I’m in heated agreement with so much of this that I kept saying the words just before they came out of your mouth Rick. I grabbed at Melodyne Uno and used it to tune vocals because we had singers all over the globe who were collaborating on songs but because they had different DAWS and clock-speeds and hardware, drift always crept in. Also they were often in a rush - one guy recording in his car during his lunch-break - and not all of us are as you say actually that good to nail it every time, whatever the pressure. It was a godsend, but really only to correct that bum note that was ruining a huge mutual effort that otherwise was good. Melodyne then brought out the polychromatic instrumental version which again was a godsend to salvage flawed recordings: why do bassists so often tune flat and why is the brass always that tad sharp? Doesn’t matter - you can harmonize it. I love the fact that you mention the vocoder. Any ELO fan of my age gets that reference. The point I want to make is this: • algorithmic tuning can be another instrument. Cher used this in Life After Love - not a great song for me but millions will disagree; I quite like what Kravitz did with it, despite your misgivings; and I have done tuned vocal harmonies in my own songs that deliberately create an unnatural sound. I’d liken this to the oddness of electric guitar harmony, as far removed from the single melody as it’s possible to imagine, but a thing in its own right nonetheless • pitch correction for bum notes is surely a good thing in that it can rescue entire projects from single mistakes • but pitch correction as a tool to make poor vocal performance acceptable is a bad thing; it disrupts the Darwinian principle that bad musicians should not be fit to out-compete good ones; and it breeds laziness and contempt for the culture of excellence that has what as its counter-point? Mediocrity.
Harald Krennrich
Harald Krennrich 9 dias atrás
Rick would go crazy hearing modern german Volksmusik.
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