M2 Pro Mac Mini Review: Game Changer! 

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This tiny computer out-benchmarks the base Mac Pro... and the price went down.
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@CodySiler 10 meses atrás
Love hearing you speak about the "normal user" instead of just video export speeds and other creator uses. This seems like a great deal for those who need an Apple product for classes / etc.
@SirusStarTV 10 meses atrás
They could have upgraded 12" macbook with m1/m2 for very normal users, it was thinner than macbook air. Why they forgot about it...
@13galaxy 10 meses atrás
@@SirusStarTV they killed off the MacBook 😢
@Dfjs427 10 meses atrás
There is no way you need an apple product for classes
@jasonhe54 10 meses atrás
@@Dfjs427 MacBooks are surprising nice for classes
@ransom182 10 meses atrás
@@Dfjs427 sure you don't need a Mac specifically but it's going to be way more reliable than running Windows.
@rotissary4331 10 meses atrás
I normally clown on Apple products but this is super impressive. Powerful, well priced, portable, recycled materials, and the ability to select your own peripherals. Great upload
@lopwidth7343 10 meses atrás
Apple is going in for the kill on prebuild consumer spec office PCs
@derkaiser9881 10 meses atrás
@@lopwidth7343 Honestly the iMacs from relatively recently were already doing that. This thing is similar but a little less plug and play.
@lopwidth7343 10 meses atrás
@@derkaiser9881 iMacs are too expensive. I have seen one in my entire lifetime
@Bulziibileg 10 meses atrás
noob here, will this be enough for photoshop and illustrator
@Bulziibileg 10 meses atrás
@@catboy3471 thank you
@MohamedAnsary 10 meses atrás
The M2 Pro Mac Mini is a game changer! It's powerful, sleek and perfect for both work and play. The upgrade to the M2 chip makes a significant difference in performance and the compact design makes it easy to take on the go. Overall, a fantastic device that I highly recommend. Thanks, Marques.
@lijptog 10 meses atrás
One of the first apple products in years that makes actual sense for regular costumers
@stevesteve8098 10 meses atrás
yep that's why they continue to loose market share... and why cook is floundering about trying this endless boxing in, to boost profits. rather than go for market share....
@jayemitchell8022 10 meses atrás
@@tbrowniscool points made:0
@electricalron 10 meses atrás
@JamesScholesUK 10 meses atrás
M1/M2 mac mini are the first apple computers in a looooong time which I would actually consider owning. It's really hard to argue against it as a portable workstation. Almost everywhere I go I can probably find a monitor, and bring a keyboard/mouse along, and for the money I save over speccing out an ultrabook I can probably throw in a luggable screen for coffee shop use too. Also asahi has been making huge strides forwards. Watching with interest.
@8xus_ 9 meses atrás
Now i want one…
@phillblake6829 2 meses atrás
Why you got your Mac on a cheese board bro? 😂
@ozmond 8 dias atrás
You aren’t gonna bring this to a coffee shop lolol
@Joshswaby 10 meses atrás
Your Fastest Man Mini (2012) video was the first piece of content which, brought you and your channel to my attention. I replicated the project a year later but subscribed right away. Just want to say thank you for creating and sharing great tech content for over a decade. Wishing you and your team many more years in this space, peace!
@vicweast 10 meses atrás
True that! Marques has really done well for the community
@Willeexd1337 10 meses atrás
Same for me
@SchrottgamesLP 10 meses atrás
A truly great documentary about about the childhood of Usain Bolt.
@cyrileo 10 meses atrás
Cool! An OG fan! 🤩 Had you pegged since day one. Thanks for the support! 🤝
@umershaikh7179 4 meses atrás
I have an old Mac Sierra 2017. Can I buy and use this with my current Mac keyboard/screen?
@WildOutdoorLiving 10 meses atrás
I've had my M1 Mac Mini for a couple of years now and it has been incredible. I run Zwift on it (a cycling game/simulator) that is notoriously taxing on hardware, a bit of video and photo editing and other normal stuff. I was able to pair it with a keyboard and mouse I actually like and a 32" display (1080p resolution). The end result is an easy to use and comfortable set up that is always ready to go. Obviously you could go with a 4k display and a name brand keyboard to make it even nicer but I think my whole set up was less than $1000. Plus if something gets damaged it doesn't necessarily take down the entire system (like when a dog threw his chew toy into my mac book screen in 2009.
@anthonydraper1231231 10 meses atrás
I’ve used an M1 Mac Mini for the past couple years now and it’s been a blast. I love that they’ve upgraded it to M2 and it’s cheaper! And yeah, I don’t have to upgrade my monitor and keyboard every time I get a new one. It’s become my favorite Apple product (favorite computer even) after my iPad which I use alongside the Mac Mini every day.
@SadStateOfAffairs 10 meses atrás
Hello, what monitor r u using? Also, can I connect a Mac mini to a 2015 27” iMac? Thanks.
@jas_bataille 7 meses atrás
This is super cool! You can mount those things in racks to use as rigs for servers, or live performance where you can have 2 in one unit so if one goes down there is no downtime. Put them on the corner of a desk. Even get a portable touch screen and use that on the go! If you factor in how big a dock you need to carry with the Macbook plus those connections, that make sense. Really amazing move by Apple!
@groupwbench 10 meses atrás
I was a big fan of the 2012 Mac Mini which if I remember correctly was the only upgradable Mac Mini available and at the time, it was a killer machine with its Intel i7 and maxed out ram, etc. I still run that machine in my basement for basically just web surfing and light video editing and it still eats up whatever task I throw at it. It's definitely an overlooked product and now with everything that I learned from this video about the new product lineup.... I might be putting my 2021 16" MacBook Pro in the backseat to make room for a maxed out Mini. Thanks for the great video!
@ianwestray7919 4 meses atrás
You make this look easy, and it's not. I'm routinely impressed by the density of information in your still-accessible reviews, which seem thoughtful written and edited. For example, here you delivered several specifics about the separation between different tiers of M2 Mini that are difficult to suss out using Apple's own Compare tool. (GPU comparisons, for example, or something as simple as the display limitations of the non-Pro chip models: Not quickly available from Apple, but you deliver that info in the natural contexts, and the right level of detail, here.)
@umershaikh7179 4 meses atrás
I have an old Mac Sierra 2017. Can I buy and use this with my current Mac keyboard/screen?
@Thorz74 10 meses atrás
Another shockingly concise and to the point review man, thank you for continuing to improve the channel with good and useful content every single day, just love it ❤️
@user-hl6ls8sv4t 10 meses atrás
@IlluminatiSilver 10 meses atrás
Great info presented at a nice calming steady pace, highlighting not just the features and benefits but also which options in the range are the best value for money. One of the best presentations we have come across for a long time.
@vivekchavanmusic 10 meses atrás
This video has got me absolutely convinced to get one of these. I'm on a 2015 Mac Air and I've been wanting to upgrade since the M1 chips came out but they were just a little over the edge for me in terms of price. This fits right in. Thanks Marques!
@joeljrichards 10 meses atrás
If you spec out a Pro mini with comparable RAM, SSD, and ethernet it is about the price of the M1 Max Studio. It will be interesting to see what happens to the pricing once the M2 (or M3 studio is released). It is the Apple way to ladder/tier their prices but these two items actually seem TOO close once the generation gap is closed.
@lilrowbear 10 meses atrás
This will be killer for offices and schools at that price point. Dell SFF has dominated the corporate office space scene. That might change with how much more powerful the base mac mini is for the same price.
@rafalxyz 10 meses atrás
One thing that came to my mind instantly is that the base Mini is a very good deal if u have a gaming Windows PC but want to work on a Mac. The quality monitor(s) are already there. It also uses so little power it can be a home server at the same time - buy the version with more ram, plug in an external drive if you need it, install a Linux VM, boom done
@ivideogameboss 10 meses atrás
I don't know how MKBHD does it, but his videos are never boring. He knows exactly what I want to hear and exactly how to say it. Pure genius!
@snakejuce 10 meses atrás
That's because you're a sheep consumer. He could be saying anything and you'd be in love. 🤡🤡
@SkyzzV_ 10 meses atrás
@@snakejuceyeah no… same opinion as OP, but I don’t buy anything at all marques talks about, except the iPhone… it’s not always black and white my dude
@snakejuce 10 meses atrás
@@SkyzzV_ I would hope so my brotha. But scr€w iPhones lol. Too many limitations, unless you simply don't care about having freedom on your mobile device, in which case, by all means enjoy it. All my family members own one. Hopefully you iPhone users get some USB C on your phones or hopefully governments force apple to use USB-C, quite frankly it's ridiculous that they still have their own exclusive charging cable BS.
@SkyzzV_ 10 meses atrás
@@snakejuce im totally with you… I own iPhone because I like the design, the OS, the stability… of course it’s quite restricted, but I don’t really care about that… not what I’m looking for. Same with the charger… I don’t give a shit, but someone surely does, so I don’t mind a change there. Of course I paid quite the price with 1579€ for a phone, but I love it. But some bullshit with apple needs to stop, your totally right there
@ashthegeek7400 10 meses atrás
@@snakejuce “freedom” lmao. Please do elaborate what I’m missing by owning an iPhone. I don’t think there’s any feature that I miss on a regular basis lmao
@0072gldnfngr 10 meses atrás
Definitely appreciate the review! You mentioned GPU and I’m looking to get into Photoshop and video animation in the near future. I won’t be tackling any extremely huge projects as I’ll be learning but obvi the more I learn the more I’ll do. Trying to decide if I should just skip this and get the Studio or would this do for a while. That said, how do you think the GPU on this holds up in the aforementioned scenario?
@itskevinmalibu 10 meses atrás
It's crazy the number of options we have these days! We used the "trash can" Mac Pro at my old videography job -- this would KILL now!
@harrison00xXx 10 meses atrás
Sadly these Mini PCs, including Mac Minis and Studio just serve a SPECIAL PURPOSE. In general the average person is still better served with a MacBook of any kind used with external Screen, KB and mouse, like this the whole mac is portable and independent from anything on the desk and by using AlDente you can control the battery very good to mainain its performance and for best longevity.
@m_here1 10 meses atrás
I love this Mac mini! I already have an external keyboard and mouse for my 2017 MacBook Pro (which is aging significantly). If I got this plus a monitor, I would have a way faster computer and then I could turn my iPad into my “laptop” if I need a portable setup. I’m glad Apple has decided to revamp the Mac mini because it’s actually a sensible option.
@jadensieppert259 10 meses atrás
You could get an base m1 air for on the go AND and the $799 Mac mini plus still have 400 bucks left over for a display and peripherals and it would cost the same as just getting the base level 14” MacBook pro alone. Apple has actually really been impressing me with the value on their newer stuff even since they introduced silicon.
@paulgigante 9 meses atrás
Just got the MBP M2 and it is insane. Love the Mac Mini too! Great review as always!
@linuspotocnik 10 meses atrás
The speed of improvement and performance-affordability always fascinates me every time I think about it. Think back like 10 years ago, something like a HD video recording or a terabyte of storage was something incredibly impressive and expensive, while nowadays you wouldn’t even be impressed by a camera with 4K recordings because tech got so affordable. Truly an amazing era to live in!
@lokidoki471 10 meses atrás
imagine the leap in the next 10-20 years, cant wait!!
@VargVinter 10 meses atrás
actually 10 years ago, 1 terrabyte was already nothing special and well it isn't today. 1 Petabte, then what you said "could" be true, but even that.. well I guess you haven't really lived in that time. What remains is, that apple created some of the best performing hardware to this day, but combined with one of the worst OS it is not very impressive. Mac OS is as good as, let's say windows 7, not more not less. If there would be an option to get a mac book m2 with windows or linux, well that would be something to get excited about. But MacOS........ it is as shit as DR-Dos was when windows came around
@Freak80MC 10 meses atrás
@@catboy3471 One example of them lowering the price doesn't change the fact that Apple stuff is usually overpriced.
@kaktusgoreng 10 meses atrás
@@Freak80MCindeed. But it should not go discredited. This mac mini is what microsoft should’ve made years ago since the surface rt days
@MuppetsSh0w 10 meses atrás
@@VargVinter I think he meant SSD
@dixitpatel8735 10 meses atrás
Really love the way you discussed how to think about the line up and navigating from what you might have today, and which option you choose to upgrade to. Personally I don’t have a great screen set up as I have old iMac so I think I’m going to go to the laptop route. 🙏🏾
@SneakerPhetish 10 meses atrás
This man’s ability to make incredibly technical & complex subjects easily digestible without diluting the excitement of the products he’s reviewing makes him an absolute GEM of a creator. A once in a lifetime talent. Salute, Marques. 🫡
@matthiasmaiwald8236 10 meses atrás
I have had quite good experience over the years with Dell monitors on Macs, specifically the U (ultrasharp) line. I am currently running one Dell U2717 and one U2414 on a 2014 Mac Mini each, and I am quite happy. I will upgrade one of the Mac Minis to the 2023 M2 Pro Mac Mini.
@rafaelmarques5623 5 meses atrás
I think this base model mac mini is a really good strategy by apple. Now everyone has access to macOS, including small businesses and schools, and this will allow a lot of people to "get used" to using macos as a standard, like we've been used to with windows machines. IMO this will dramatically improve and increase the development of applications for macOS like never before, like CAD SW. I am a mechanical engineer and It's really sad that we simply can't use macs, because companies never developed tools for us to use on macOS. Now, I think this will change in the next few years.
@misterfilmguy 10 meses atrás
These Apple silicon chips are still blowing my mind in the performance per dollar ratio. I'm a photographer and my 2020 M1 with 16GB RAM is still blowing through my workload at an amazing pace for the price, and I'm sure this new Mac Mini would too.
@joshuaberrios 10 meses atrás
Almost a whole year after I purchased my Mac Studio on pre-order day last year and hearing rumors about Mac Studio possibly not being a supported computer anymore by Apple. This Mac Mini is 🔥for the price and small form factor compared to the Mac Studio as well.
@peterfconley 10 meses atrás
I’ve never daily driven a Mac, but this Mac mini is really enticing. It actually seems like a good value proposition from Apple.
@MrCallahan 10 meses atrás
Thinking the same! Always been a Windows guy, have an old Windows desktop that needs to be replaced...but this is very tempting! good price for the massive capabilities it has.
@Daniel-dj7fh 10 meses atrás
I was thinking so too until I checked and saw that you're getting a 256Gb 8Gbram M2 for 699 (in Germany everything is 100 bucks more). For 500Gb storage you're almost at 1k. And for the m2 and 16Gb of ram you're around 1500€. And there I can only laugh. I built a pc with a Ryzen 5 3600, 16Gb of ram, 2x500Gb of storage with an Rtx3060 for under 1500. Checked benchmark comparisons, whilst the m2 can do some stuff slightly better, other stuff it can't do at all. Plus my rig has the benefit of upgradeability and repairability. I do give credits on the mac mini's size, but you can probably get a similar sized r5 3400u cpu in there, cut the gpu and save 400 bucks and maybe get slightly worse performance.
@LuLeBe 10 meses atrás
@@Daniel-dj7fh I mean the ease of use, especially when using apple software (why you'd wanna do that? I have no clue, Google calendar etc works better even on an iphone) is an upside that can be worth quite a lot. Plus some stuff just works better on macOS (final cut is just so smooth compared to adobe and davinci resolve for example) or maybe it's only available for macOS like xcode. But everyone with a desktop computer has a reason to have it, if it's just Excel and chrome on the why not get a Chromebook or so. And for many of these uses, windows just works better (gaming) or Linux is a great option (development) or it really doesn't matter at all (blender, Adobe etc) and then upgradability is king on a PC build.
@justitgstuff5284 10 meses atrás
@@Daniel-dj7fh 8GB memory and 256GB storage is plenty for most people. Remember that it is MacOS so you're not gonna be filling up your storage with 100GB game installations. It's also easy to add an external SSD and still have it be very fast thanks to the thunderbolt ports on the back. Not everyone wants to build their own desktop PC, especially a small form factor build, which are typically more tedious to build. Sure, upgradeability and repairability are great, but at least for the target demographic, they're kind of irrelevant. You're also comparing it to a PC that costs twice as much, uses way more power, and takes up significantly more space while also producing more heat and noise overall. Also, the 3400G isn't really close at all to the M2 in performance or efficiency. It gets destroyed in basically every area by comparison. Even the 3600 is a fair bit slower in many areas (and doesn't have an integrated GPU).
@bjvink0130 10 meses atrás
@@Daniel-dj7fh the 699euro price is because americans don't calculate VAT on their 600 dollar prices, im pretty sure in germany you use 19% on electronic devices so 600$ = 550 euro 550 x 1.19 = 665euro, so youre only paying about 34 euros above the real msrp. also the student discount is 100 euro, so that would make 599 euro incl VAT
@swissgator6312 8 meses atrás
The Studio Display/Mac Mini is actually Apple's new 27in iMac. I like the idea. I'm using a late 2013 27in iMac with 32gb ram and an external SSD for system duties. This works for most of my tasks but the real bottleneck is the computer, not the display. Yes, the 2013 display is not retina, but it still works incredibly well for a 10 year old machine. So being able to keep a great display while upgrading computing power, is welcome for me.
@LMacNeill 10 meses atrás
I had a Late-2014 Intel Mac Mini that I used for work for many years, and a couple of months after the M1 Mac Mini came out I upgraded. I still have it, of course - use it every day. And back then for $699 it was the best bang for the buck, computing-wise. (Although I did upgrade the RAM from 8GB to 16BB, so I paid $899 for mine). Now at $599 with an even *better* CPU? It's even *MORE* of a bang for the buck! I might upgrade just because I can get 10Gb Ethernet for $100. Sure would be nice to be able to talk to my NAS at 10Gb instead of 1Gb.
@AlpacaFiasco 10 meses atrás
The base model has a great sticker price, but an extra 256GB of storage for £200 extra, or doubling the ram to 16GB for £200? Insane mark up.
@marcisikoff 6 meses atrás
Thanks MKB! I'm coming from an intel Macbook Pro and fall into that group that doesn't take it around at all. Also with iPad Pro M2 that's all I need for portability. So M2 Pro was ordered with the +1 month 10G ethernet, but well worth it. I chose to max the memory, take SSD to 1TB as that seems to be the entry point we who need Windows 11 will use for Parallels has the ARM, and we can always add an external USB-C drive at a better storage/$$ ratio that buying it internal to this. But, also having a preferred monitor, keyboard, and mouse already, this will just slot in, and help remove many more wires.
@maxdavids5445 8 meses atrás
Hi! I primarily use After Effects for rigging and animating many layers, sometimes high res. As much as shorter render times are a blessing I am more concerned about viewport playback and timeline scrubbing, so I can manually view my animations. I was considering the Mac Mini M2 Pro, with upgraded processor, 32GB memory and possibly a 4TB SSD. With these added costs would I be better purchasing the base Mac Studio, which still costs a lot more?
@WorksOnMyComputer 4 meses atrás
This is probably too late for you, but the Mac Studio is a better bet in my opinion. You get the 32GB of RAM and twice the memory speed as standard in the base model. The hard drive is also faster when comparing base spec drives. I wouldn't upgrade the drive though as it's cheaper to buy an external drive like a Samsung T7 that will have fast enough drive speeds to support what you want to do and is available in 4TB size. The beauty there is you're putting the drive wear on an external drive you can replace later and the cost is also cheaper for external. Where the M2 Pro Mac mini really makes sense, is if you can live with the base spec Apple sells. That is a really good computer for the money, but as soon as you upgrade the Ram or the HDD or in your case both, you quickly get into base Mac Studio Max territory and that really becomes the better choice at that point.
@Kidynamo123 10 meses atrás
My base model M1 Pro MBP 14” is honestly so ridiculously good for my workflow as a data scientist and developer, even though it’s technically a binned-down SKU at only 8 cores. I’m really impressed with how much Apple improved the architecture on the pro end for what would normally be a very incremental upgrade. It makes me excited for what’s to come in the third generation, which may be enough of a gap to justify an upgrade from M1 Pro, particularly if the rumors about a 3nm manufacturing process are true
@smartlearning6390 10 meses atrás
I wanna go into machine learning , is m1 pro mac book pro , good ?
@chilario.4204 10 meses atrás
@@smartlearning6390 It's brilliant.
@RicardoLopez-ug4tm 8 meses atrás
Great video definitely helped in my decision making. Question I’m hoping someone can assist me with. I have a dual monitor setup - LG 27GP950-B 27” Ultragear UHD (3840 x 2160) and just got the MacMini M2 pro. Coming from windows to Mac I’ve noticed this scaling issue which is common knowledge but I didn’t know. If I just choose the recommended resolution will I notice any image quality issues while photo editing? Thanks in advance.
@omarchandla6471 10 meses atrás
Hi Marques, love your reviews and the time you take to finesse your content. The M2 Mac Mini looks amazing, I have a 2014 i7 27” iMac which doubles as a Plex server. As an upgrade which would you favour between a late edition i9 27” iMac and an ‘entry level’ M2 Mac Mini? Internal storage is not an issue because my Plex media is stored on a LaCie Thunderbolt external. Thank you, Omar . Double99.
@gasmy2257 10 meses atrás
I have the M1 version of it. It’s just awesome. Never ever failed, i use it for graphic design, light video work and music production.
@cruelpeanutbutter7598 10 meses atrás
It’s hard to image how fast these m2 pro’s are, I’m still using base model m1 macbook air for my graphic design studies and have’t had any problems with it’s performance
@ljdelgado 10 meses atrás
After watching so many of your videos over the years, today I realize ten years ago I watched your series on fastest Mini, which I eventually replicated. Come 2023 and I'm still using that 2012 Mini with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD; still holding up, but guess why I'm watching today's video hahaha... Cheers
@digheanurag 10 meses atrás
They’re so stable. Happy upgrade!
@Cohen- 10 meses atrás
You'd probably be blown away with an upgrade. I'm not a Mac user nor do I think I will be. But things like this are just so... tempting
@binohuan1162 10 meses atrás
Wow that is amazing story.
@rydellgarcia 7 meses atrás
damn!!! 2012 mac mini still holding up to this day?!!! that's like using an iphone 5 (in terms of phone). over a decade is crazy! wtf. thats why im planning to buy a macbook pro for my school shit. because evryone in my school uses windows either Predator, Asus or whatever that is. I think i'll be the first student to have a macbook in the csampus cause ive never seen one, besides my prof. im more into the longevity of stuff. My brother's predator laptop bought back in 2017 gave up last year lmao and that's worth $2k+
@heindijs 7 meses atrás
I'm still using a 2012 Mini as well. It's still really fast. Every program opens instantly. Just don't try editing video on it lol
@cjc363636 10 meses atrás
From a almost-ignored back trail in the Apple Mac line, to an actual important upper-mid level performer. Very cool!
@cyrileo 10 meses atrás
👍 Wow, that's amazing! 🤯
@cameronbosch1213 10 meses atrás
I'd argue that the iMac has become the more niche almost-ignored Mac in Apple's Mac lineup. It tries to serve the "family computer" role, but it's too expensive, too impractical (with the port selection), and too much e waste for that role anymore.
@pentagramyt417 7 meses atrás
I am a windows user since beggining. I do have an iPhone. But working on "physical OS" as a Mac's, iMacs is different (knowing all possibilites of a software, hardware, knowing all shortcuts, etc.) So my question is IT IS BETTER to invest on: 1) Mac Mini 2 Pro + Screen alone 2) or to go straight for iMac alone? I want it to use for photo editing, in a future for video editing. Sometimes I see people with Mac Mini and iMac at the same time on their board, and I ask myself like... does it connect each other or it's just ego show of showing you have both devices, because I don't know now if you need BOTH to work or could be alone. What's your opinion for my case? If you work with macOS since beggining I would appreciate or have experience with work at Windows and macOS at the same time, appreciate even more.
@HeresMo 10 meses atrás
If this is the entry level mac mini, I can't wait to see whats to come with the mac pro... I think my current video editing rig can go home as a beefy gaming rig and the mac mini will be the new office computer.
@moumoumusic 8 meses atrás
Hi Marques. I love your videos. You’re one of the content creators who really cares about the “normal people” opinions. Can I kindly ask where did you buy this wood plates where the Mac Mini sitting? Or that just a random design element? It looks so cool!
@cartilagehead6326 10 meses atrás
It would be great to see a deep dive that compares two possible buys for an “average” user: 14” MacBook Pro for $2k-2,500 vs M2 Pro Mini + MacBook Air or iPad for similar total expenditure.
@juans8356 10 meses atrás
I'm still using my Mac mini M1 base model and it runs smoothly. I recommend the model I have for students or home use. The only complaint is the few ports, but most of my stuff is wireless now so I just end up using 1 of the thunderbolts and 1 of the usb ports for my camera.
@theglengarrys9121 9 meses atrás
Same here. I got my M1 Mini back when they first came out and it still handles everything I throw at it with ease. Supposedly it has a cooling fan inside but I’ve never once heard it running 😂
@TheHoodGuru 10 meses atrás
I got 2 of these. I got the M1 a bunch of months ago when Costco had a sale, and now just got an M2 with another Costco sale. They are definitely the fasted CPUs in my house and I've had a few gaming PCs between me and my son. I always buy a USB Type C SanDisk SSD for extra storage. I swing my Photos and some larger apps to that storage to keep the main OS drive at max space. And with a nice 2K or 1440 or more monitor, you can beat these.
@kstew003 10 meses atrás
What monitors do you use?
@TheHoodGuru 10 meses atrás
@@kstew003 I got a Samsung J791 Series 34-Inch Ultrawide QHD (3440x1440) monitor connected by the USB-C cable and the other is a Lenovo Q27h-10 27-Inch Monitor, QHD (2560x14440) IPS monitor. Both work with no issues.
@TheTechieNerd 10 meses atrás
It's absolutely insane at a really good price.
@SmokingCrop 10 meses atrás
Until you start upgrading the ram to 16GB and the SSD to 1TB or 2TB. Where they easily make 4x margin on retail prices, let alone their own cost per TB.
@RoyRosales 10 meses atrás
@@SmokingCrop so don’t do that…
@MrBrax 10 meses atrás
@@RoyRosales using a computer with less that 16/32 is painful
@LeMatt87n 10 meses atrás
I kinda disagree. It’s good if you’re not Into gaming. And need MACOS.
@twocsies 10 meses atrás
The Apple pricing is ridiculous. Unless you get the M2 256GB 8GB RAM, which is affordable, it's hundreds of dollars for RAM or SSD upgrades that would cost $50 if you could add them yourself. The M2 512GB 16GB is doouble the price of the M2 256GB 8GB... A sucker born every minute. (And as a software developer, you will be disadvantaged even at the 16GB RAM, I know from experience that universal memory aka paging is just not good enough, Apple knows it, so doubles the price of the machine for modest increase in SSD and RAM capacity)
@passurlamer 10 meses atrás
Thanks for the concise review touching on the right things for people who aren't necessarily (recovered) gaming addicts or plasma flow calculation professionals.
@JosephCee 9 meses atrás
I've had the M1 mini with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd for maybe a year now which i don't think is a long time at all but i really want the m2 pro...i was always hoping that apple would continue to pack more power into the mac mini and they totally are. i want one so bad.
@Banzai29020 9 meses atrás
A most excellent revue.. I have an iMac M1 and have been a little disappointed with it.. more to do with the smaller screen size. I've previously had four 27" Intel Macs and loved the screen size. I've been with Apple since 1991, Mac OS 6.0. I was sorry to see the newer M1 iMac's with a smaller 24" screen. This new Mac mini with the M2 chip looks good, and you can buy whatever monitor size you want. An excellent revue from someone who knows there Apples.. My old favourite was the Apple Cube.. should have kept it..
@pmievil 10 meses atrás
It looks like a very interesting offer . If you expand Mac mini’s SSD storage a lot pricier unfortunately.
@0cr 10 meses atrás
I think a smarter option would be to use the SD port for additional storage
@cameronbosch1213 10 meses atrás
@@0cr I would upgrade the RAM to 16 GB and storage to at the minimum 512 GB (to avoid the single NAND issue on the base models). SD card requires a dongle.
@0cr 9 meses atrás
@@cameronbosch1213 Yeah, cost vs performance fallacy again.
@tigerrx7 10 meses atrás
Marques is the kind of guy who’ll subtly show you how dope he is with his little action figure while doing a dope tech review. Well done!
@beegees21 10 meses atrás
Do you or anyone you know has "little action figure" of themselves?
@jiamingsun1701 10 meses atrás
Wonder where is it from, is it 3D printed?
@coldacre 6 meses atrás
he's the dopiest!
@AfoteyAnnum 10 meses atrás
It's honestly insane how powerful these machines are. I've been using an 8GB M1 for a long while now for video editing, and I haven't had to create any proxies at all for anything. Not my 5k 422 10 bit 400Mbps footage, not my multicam videos, nothing. I'm for sure going to upgrade when the Ultra comes out, but for now, I'm pretty good. Really surprised by how much power these things pack TBH
@nightthemoon8481 10 meses atrás
The sheer delusion :skull: they have dedicated media engines for basic video work, try adding any real effects and rip Try any kind of 3d work and you get 3050 mobile speeds
@michaelhubbard5013 10 meses atrás
I was using a similar M1 Macmini from my previous job, and I was getting into video editing I was thoroughly impressed with how it handled scrubbing through footage and how snappy it was in AfterEffects. Rending out / exporting the videos took a lot longer than I would have preferred, but for the form-factor it blew me away except for that one aspect of it.
@nightthemoon8481 10 meses atrás
@Vicinity 1. Wattage doesn't matter on a desktop 2. I meant the m2 max not the base m2 or pro being at most equivalent to a 3050 mobile in 3d work, the pro is equivalent to a 1660 in most use cases but in 3d it's closer to a 1050, the base m1 equivalent to a 1650 but in 3d there's no equivalent 3. which part of what i said was wrong, the criteria for delusion is being extremely wrong, was i wrong about it being weak? No Now his claim of them being "extremely powerful", the base m2 is around 40x-50 slower than a 4090 mobile in 3d, the max around 10x, in cpu based workloads there's less of a difference but still several times as fast
@nightthemoon8481 10 meses atrás
@@michaelhubbard5013 exactly, all the basic tasks that are hardware accelerated, if you use any effects like optical flow, lumetri colour, tracking, etc all of that falls back to gpu, so your playback speed gets crippled Essentially because the media engines can't do the heavy lifting anymore in those workflows Extrapolating the thought that the whole thing is fast because of how 1 specific hardware accelerated task performs is pretty disingenuous Everyone in the mkbhd discord server has been complaining about how ignorant and extremely misleading his last 2 vids have been
@s.i.m.c.a 10 meses atrás
" being the first desktop arm processor Apple manufactures for the home user" - lame. They use same upgraded GPU as A15 Bionic, which they make for years, and it is still mobile class CPU/GPU (m1, m2). They quite experienced with what they are doing, and it is not desktop class arm CPU lol. Wana desktop class, you can check Ampere Altra, for example.
@bendikarbogast1229 10 meses atrás
Hey, just wanted to tell you that Geekbench is not very representative of cross architecture performance between x86 and ARM (even when not accounting for major OS and driver differences). Since those are two different instruction sets there are certain applications where one outperforms the other only due to being more specialized for a particular use case. Sometimes having a certain specialized instruction is an advantage if it fits the current work load. On the other hand being less specialized reduces overall complexity and hence can be advantageous for simple operations. So technically it is impossible for an ideal synthetic benchmark to exist between those two platforms. In my opinion Geekbench has a tendency to favor ARM systems over x86 which doesn't necessarily reflect in other benchmarks or real performance. I'm not trying to discredit the insane performance of Apple ARM here, but Geekbench overexaggerates this difference. Modern x86 mobile processors especially from AMD offer very similar performance if not higher in some cases (although this is not easy to compare). Hence it would be best to compare those machines in more real world use cases against each other since this directly reflects how the actual machine will perform for the user.
@sol_in.victus 10 meses atrás
I've seen some people render an adobe video, or do big compiles and i thought that was an interesting way to test the differences and give it a "score". Although yet again that reduces the test to those specific functions
@AppleKid 10 meses atrás
Nice review. You always do cool reviews man. The only gripe I have is that I heard that Apple held back on soldering their ssds so that the data rate does not go as fast as it could.
@Dresling 10 meses atrás
Thanks for great review. The worlds fastest Mac mini is one the earliest videos of your I remember. So already before you mentioned it I had memories of that. :) The new M2 base Mac Mini is clearly one of the best tech deals imo.
@customgraphics8064 10 meses atrás
Great review. Hate the fact that non upgrade storage or ram options can be had. Apple should have made options to send back unit for upgrades
@time2livelife 10 meses atrás
I’ve been wanting the mac mini for a while and now it’s extra tempting. How future-proof do you think the 16GB RAM model would be?
@alexoatrunner4619 10 meses atrás
Love how you mentioned compile times as a use case! It can make such a workflow difference (probably even more than rendering) if the chip is able to render a new live view immediately. 4:30
@dwaynepedals 10 meses atrás
Nice! I just purchased the M2 Pro 12 core with 32GB RAM & 1TB SSD. I'm so psyched to edit on this machine. I have been using my Late 2012 iMac i7 Intel for 9 years now and I'm soooooo looking forward to more power and smooth sailing across my 4k footage.
@darinjohnson3671 2 meses atrás
I am looking at the Mac Mini, but what I like about it is that I can bring my own devices with me. I am debating if I wait until the M3, but will see in the next 3-4 months if I decide to move or not.
@AdamGonzebra 6 meses atrás
I went through the same issues. You have to have the machines in order to test and check them out. I bought the mac mini m1 súper altered and i will never go back to intel neither imac. I am super happy with my Mac mini its such a beauty for anything. By the way do you have any reviews about the iPad pro 2020 m1 and m2? By any chance?
@CobeBecause. 10 meses atrás
makes a setup look so clean! What a powerful little machine!
@yevmoroz 5 meses atrás
True, I've got M1 mac mini for budget reasons and it's so good. 8G memory is absolutely different feeling comparing to intel chips
@MBSCDS 10 meses atrás
I've had the M1 mini since shortly after it came out. it was my leap from desktop pc to desktop mac. it is phenomenal. the most stable personal computer I've ever used in past 25+ years
@steffenkawa8374 10 meses atrás
i like the form factor, power. What i really dislike is the integrated RAM and storage. Upgrades are very expensive and you can't repair anything. So you put a perfectly fine pc in the bin because your SSD/nvme failed.
@syedbasiljaved6201 10 meses atrás
I think that the higher refresh rate for displays is also great, but unfortunately, that’s only for M2 pro.
@seantwentyfour471 10 meses atrás
I just had to comment - I bought a Mac Mini as a refurbished in 2012. It was actually a 2011 model which hasn't had support since 2017. It's the only computer I own. You've convinced me to finally go to the M2 soon. I just don't know how to transfer the old, out-dated files and programs from my old 2011 mini to the new one (when I get it). Great review.
@banpridev 10 meses atrás
You speaking more about normal users and actually explicitly making recommendations for students and so forth, it adds the value that I have been feeling like most reviewers lack, and what you sometimes also lack lately. Like we get it, you work with 8k and staff so obviously things like that should impress you, but the percentage of your viewers who care about that, even understands or can even watch it in their own device, it is so small that at no point should it ever become the main focus of your video. I truly appreciate this balanced review, and it has been a minute since I got this feeling. Lol funny part is that I am a software engineer intern at a FAANG company, so personally I do understand the very technical aspects and so forth, but as a long time subscriber, I think your value proposal is mainly in your balanced review, and not in catering for a niché. That's just my take.
@dougroyce5784 10 meses atrás
Can’t wait to get one! I’ve never had a Mac computer. The mini fits what I need. That price point is very attractive!
@fanclub999 10 meses atrás
You’ll love it, my old 2013 mini with i7 processor 16gig ram is still performing like new.
@Mo-xj8sx 7 meses atrás
Did you get it? Was it worth it?
@dougroyce5784 7 meses atrás
Not yet. I wanted more than the base model. @@Mo-xj8sx
@llkeithh 6 meses atrás
Coming back to this a few months later - I recently, and somewhat reluctantly bought a new iMac from an older 27", which my wife uses is mostly for architecture, and it was starting to chug. She had checked it out in the store and though it would be okay. As soon as I set it up, I regretted it - much more noticeable change in the screen size, and it just felt more flimsy in a way, less substantial. Returned it and bought the mid level Mac Mini with M2, and a refurbished Studio Display to save a bit of money, on top of the savings I get through work and using the Apple credit card. Waiting on it to be delivered but am more excited about that setup.
@visionz_n_media 10 meses atrás
Excellent video as always. I had just looked at these and was wondering about them, so I’m glad you gave us the rundown on it.
@vulcanus9384 10 meses atrás
disappointed he didn't mention storage or ram configurations
@visionz_n_media 10 meses atrás
@@vulcanus9384 those are options that you can select yourself. It’s on the Apple Store. My main concern was baseline performance so that I could determine my own ram and storage needs from there. I’m sure that’s why he didn’t dive into those, because they are subjective to the individual needs of each person.
@hermanstokbrood 10 meses atrás
@@visionz_n_media Sure Apple let you choose anything. For you know it the price has doubled or even trippled.
@visionz_n_media 10 meses atrás
@@hermanstokbrood that’s not just an Apple thing. If it is something you really need as opposed to just wanting, then the price will not matter as much.
@hermanstokbrood 10 meses atrás
@@visionz_n_media Yeah at this price level it is just an Apple thing.
@ganjco8077 6 meses atrás
Great vids thanks man! I guess they slowed down the 256 on write time. So 512gb is still good but def note the slower SSD on the smaller one then past models :(
@bugmanhk2201 10 meses atrás
This is great to hear from you. I have away liked the the mac mini and always thought they should have done more with it. I have had 3 previously. Held off from buying the new ones for now. and you can hookit up with a great non mac monitor. currently have a 27" iMac and not impressed with it. Line down the screen after 28 montths and now keeps cchuting down for no reason....
@SPW1981 7 meses atrás
Good review. Thanks! Just wanted to mention that if you bump the specs, the price of the M2 Pro will climb very fast. I paid 3k € for mine. So much for considering the Mac mini an entry level Mac… 😅
@colinleask4777 10 meses atrás
Can’t wait to see the M2 Studio and what that can do.
@itsme_jenmedia 10 meses atrás
PERFECT AND clearly said, Well done. I got an M1 Max refurb for the time being and will wait for the m3 if I ever do need to upgrade in the future .saved myself over £1000
@Yaboical24 10 meses atrás
Love the review as always! The Mac Mini seems like the solid move for me. I have a intel core i5 MacBook Air that gets cooked on basic things. I already have the monitor since I'm on ps5 so this would be a perfect upgrade for the price
@wonrei 10 meses atrás
Can you game tho
@q_u_a_c_c 10 meses atrás
@@wonrei he has a ps5...
@Yaboical24 10 meses atrás
@@wonrei Yep
@simonmaduxx6777 10 meses atrás
Was just talking about this with my friend today. Monitors especially for work are in a very weird place where there is barely any middle ground at all. It's either you buy something garbage with a limited color space or you got to shell out a couple of thousand.
@Raildig Mês atrás
Way late on the comment here but... that video you did back in college on the fastest Mini, got me to do the same with my Late 2012. I still use that one for light work with 2 monitors and a handful of external SSDs and Photoshop CS6. This machine has paid for itself a comical number of times over. I've used it for full color ad work in a few national magazines and started a BRvid channel (up to 3.5K subs now) using iMovie / 4K video / High Sierra. Basically, miraculous little machines :) Looking to get this Pro Mini soon w/ Davinci. It has a lot to live up to after my Late 2012!
@blackberrynomad 10 meses atrás
Great review... thanks. When comparing against a MacBook, most reviews including yours overlook the fact that it's not just the keyboard and display, but especially the built in UPS that adds significant value to the MacBooks... Just curious if you know of a UPS for the Mini with a housing that matches it's footprint... I think that OWC and Newer used to have one in the past but I can't seem to find anything similar in today's market... Thought u may know as u r clearly a veteran Mini user... best regards and pls keep up the great work, Matt.
@philcrawford325 10 meses atrás
I'm wondering whether or not Apple will drop the iMac from its line-up. It's the only desktop Mac with its own monitor, which seems like a reason to maintain it, but I wonder if it might be commercially more viable to produce the Mac Mini, Mac Studio and Mac Pro and introduce a third, entry-level, lower-spec monitor for those who don't want to spend a fortune on the Studio Display or Pro Display XDR. Depending on price, and if I wanted a desk-bound set up, I would consider a Mac Mini with that entry-level monitor over an iMac. Nice alliteration at the end.
@minineji7050 9 meses atrás
I love the SFF of the mac mini, it's honestly a perfect computer hardware wise. Not a macOs fan but its genuinely the way to go for budget performance.
@Mond_cph 10 meses atrás
Wouldn’t you recommend upgrading the baseline M2 599$ to a 512 gb SSD? The writing and reading speeds of the 256 gb SSD is tanking some the performance
@TheTeaPodcast 10 meses atrás
Still killing it with my 2020 MacBook Air M1. It's still the best laptop/computer I have ever owned and is still blowing my mind to this day. I can't imagine having anything faster, and yet, here we are. Love your content MKBHD!
@46I37 10 meses atrás
Opposite experience here. Bought my wife a MacBook my air and it’s a dog. Worse performance than her 6 year old 27inc iMac. Stutters, needs rebooting, usb mics stutter. Big disappointment.
@leebeeskee 10 meses atrás
@@46I37 Don't base that as grounds for describing all M1 Airs. You got unlucky there and any product can be a "dog". Mine is amazing and has never let me down or even stuttered.
@Fedegamo 10 meses atrás
same here, top tier laptop
@dingdong2103 10 meses atrás
@@46I37 Was your laptop equipped with the smallest ssd? That's always a mistake. As with this M2 mac mini, the smallest SSD is a single chip design and it's 1/4th the speed of the larger models. Also it dies much faster.
@46I37 10 meses atrás
@@dingdong2103 No. Has the 512G SSD but 8G RAM. Research said 8G was as good as 16G on intel, esp with fast SSD.
@mrhobs 10 meses atrás
Nice to know I'll have something great to upgrade to when my 2017 iMac finally starts showing its age. (Guessing later this year when it likely won't be supported by the new MacOS... so dumb, should be at least one more year. Hope I'm wrong.) Also, I'm probably gonna hold out until Apple gets a little more serious about 120hz, both in their software and large displays. By then I think I'll feel like I've had a good enough run with my trusty iMac... meh, I could probably run this thing another 4 years ha. EDIT: Heck, if I make 4 more years with this iMac (say about Dec 31st 2026), I may as well push it to summer 2027 so I can say I've used it a full decade! Then the upgrade I go with will be that much sweeter! BTW, its specced out, so it won't be quite as painful as trying to run some slow base model 2014 iMac through to 2024 would be. Yes... I'm actually kind of excited now to see how long this guy can hold out. Apple would make it A LOT easier if they would give me just one more major update this fall (not just security stuff).
@haugecreative1227 10 meses atrás
Always love your reviews, Marques! I'm one of those still working on an intel Mac (21.5", 2019, 1tb, 32gb ram) and am thinking about an upgrade. My side hustle is video editing, and I'm a FCP enthusiast. I was thinking about upgrading to the Mac Studio, but now I'm not sure after watching your review of the mini. What's the diff between those two, and for video editing, which would you recommend?
@danielstory2761 10 meses atrás
Until the Mac studio is refreshed, the Mac mini is a much better choice. M2 pro Mac mini sounds like a good choice for you: it comes with 16GB of ram as the minimum option, which Apple charges an extra $200 for on the base model (and is essentially a requirement in 2023). It also comes with the 512GB ssd. the 256GB ssd in the base model is extremely slow, it’s another $200 in the base model to upgrade to 512.
@palgotzoona 7 meses atrás
My 2017 27" iMac kicked the bucket last week, and rather than repairing it I landed on the M2 Mac mini. Lack of upgradability meant I had to pimp it out a bit higher than I otherwise would have, but it's lovely. Silent and super fast. A Stable Diffusion AI image that took 20 minutes on the Intel iMac takes literally 15 seconds on the mini lol.
@mrmosk2011 10 meses atrás
I bought Mac Mini M2 base model on the same date I watch this. The main usage of it is to do web browsing and write some documents. So far it worked well. However, I have to see how long it can last and I have to keep in mind, this thing is not for serious photo editing. I have a PC for heavy photo editing work, so I don't really need one. If I have to use Mac Mini M2 for photo editing, I feel I only need to add more memory, maybe maxing it out. Internal storage can be better with 512GB, but I don't think softwares would take much space. For additional storage, a cheap NVMe SSD and a Thunderbolt housing is easy to set up. I added 1TB for just $150. The only time I see the MM M2 used swap is when I run Lightroom. So I think it is only good for light photo editing. The second reason for me to get this is that it is the cheapest way for me to try out the Apple ecosystem. I only recently moved to iPhone, so I am getting used to that. I don't want to put out $5000+ on a Mac Studio and then find out I hate it. I have been a lifetime PC user and have a good machine I can use for now. If this works well, I may get a Mac Studio next time. Marques's review is always good and entertaining, so thinks a lot.
@simonfreeserve 10 meses atrás
Great review again, Mr Brownlee you say you can use the mac mini with whatever ($600) display you want (of course it will be better with a Mac Display) But i'm curious what it would look like with a 2k(1080) 4k or a 8k tv. Would it be possible in your next 'mac mini' review to try this.? and do you think the i-mac might get the new M2 chip and a bigger screen? keep up the great vids
@RiannaNicole 10 meses atrás
Stuff like your videos help me feel a little more at home with not needing to upgrade from my m1 Mac mini. I enjoy my m1 and will probably keep it until it doesn’t take software updates, as I’m a basic user. I do enjoy seeing how the latest and greatest look and perform, but I’m just a basic user on PC so I’ll watch and live vicariously through those who would take use of the upgrades
@mrhobs 10 meses atrás
Yeah don't let FOMO get to you. I just left an overly long comment concluding with my excitement to essentially drive my 2017 (specced out) iMac into the ground haha. Gonna try to make it work for me until summer 2027. 😂 Anyway, the longer you wait, the sweeter it will feel to upgrade, and the more exciting the new product will be... not to mention the money saved and the minimized environmental impact.
@satyasohhampradhan8231 10 meses atrás
Loving my M1 Pro gets every bit of job done as I also need to travel a lot with my laptop... So happy with my Macbook Pro... In the long run like 3-4 years once my M1Pro starts getting outdated... Getting a Mac Mini with a pro chip and adding a BenQ display monitor will serve my purpose while working at home...
@PaulNolanofficial 10 meses atrás
i'm seeing professional grade recording studios running their entire facilities using a mac studio. wont be long before we see something similar happening with the mac mini. genuinely considering replacing my 6 year old intel 27" iMac with one of these M2 Pro minis!
@KELLMAR915 6 meses atrás
Looking to upgrade my Mac for photo processing in lightroom and photoshop. In analysis mode right now, and of course working within a budget! The sales guy at the Apple Store told me the Mac mini runs hot, which will eventually reduce it’s life span. Any thoughts there? I’m looking at a 14 inch M2 pro 12/30 32 gig vs mini M1 Max 10/32 64 gig. I’m in analysis paralysis at the moment. Also is 32 gig ram enough to grow into? I don’t do video yet but I may later!
@OutdoorsmenLee 7 meses atrás
Awesome review for the average consumer. Blows my mind that 16 gb of memory isnt standard. I think we are at a point where 16gb shouldnt be expensive. About the out of date Mac Pro cheese grater: At my work i did a render test between the Mac Mini studio and the Mac Pro in cinema4d using the physical renderer. Studio did the frame in 3:15. Cheese grater did it in 3:10. I then tried using the Redshift renderer. The studio rendered it fast and the mac pro errored out. Making it a useless 15k machine for red shift. Conclusion: Dont buy anything Mac Pro. They die at their release. Lol
@Joe-nb3fs 10 meses atrás
Cheaper, but the storage is apparently 30% slower for the entry level M2 than the previous entry level M1 (similar to what happened on the Airs)
@Chrisbale13 10 meses atrás
Only with base storage and still way faster than comparative stuff at $600
@zakur0hako 10 meses atrás
I feel this is going to be one of their most successful products
@syedbasiljaved6201 10 meses atrás
For the company? Maybe. For the customers? Heck yeah!
@TheN8ism 10 meses atrás
One thing I would like to point out as a long-time mac-mini owner. The mac-mini is a TANK of a machine. Small solid aluminum chassis, exhaust fan is the only moving part. If you add that with the insane heat efficiency of the m2 and you get a system that you most definitely will replace before the end of its lifespan.
@TobiasMThrun 10 meses atrás
I love that I have to upgrade my old iMac and have a good screen in the office I don‘t use anymore. This will be an amazing machine for less money than I planned😍
@mrosenblatt 10 meses atrás
I bought a Mac Studio a few months back and it's been outstanding. I wonder how this M2 Pro Mac Mini holds up to the current baseline Mac Studio?
@Natrist2 10 meses atrás
The Mac Mini is faster and better designed.
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