HOLY $H!T - The FASTEST CPU on the Planet - AMD EPYC 9654

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Fun Fact: In a 2-socket server, you need 4 threads pegged at 100% to get 1% CPU utilization.

AMD's new SP5 socket, and HUGE new Epyc Genoa CPUs are crazy! Using Supermicro's servers, we set a bunch of World Records on a bunch of benchmarks. Intel is gonna be sweating, unless their upcoming Sapphire Rapids platform can magically compete. Intel's Raptor Lake CPUs might win against Ryzen in the mainstream, it's a whole different story in the datacenter.

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0:00 Intro
1:03 Socket SP5 Features
4:07 DDR5 ECC
5:26 Expandability
8:32 Power
9:24 Let's Fire This Thing Up
10:14 Hyper vs Cloud Servers
11:21 Put a 4090 "In" it
11:39 More Cores, More Problems
13:12 Epyc vs Cinebench
15:17 ycruncher
17:00 Phoronix Tests
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Aidan Bishop
Aidan Bishop 3 meses atrás
You know a dual CPU system is absurd when it breaks task manager.
Jason Duncan
Jason Duncan Mês atrás
it will only last a month! for it burns up. damn AMD and Lenovo a bad combo!!!!
Luis Ep. X
Luis Ep. X Mês atrás
someone who uses this cpu will never run windows anyway
Michael Segel
Michael Segel Mês atrás
@Lunaire.- Nope just run a single server for Kubernetes.
Tower Defender
Tower Defender Mês atrás
if you need a task manager then you did something wrong with this beast :D
Fabriccio de Giovanni
Yes, but Unix only use this Cores... . Fastes shit... .
Jeffrey Allen
Jeffrey Allen 3 meses atrás
I keep forgetting how ridiculously huge the 4090 is until it's compared to other things.
NickTheQuick Mês atrás
@Jeffrey Allen if you had nvidia for your whole life you will be disappointed! The Software from AMD was and still is absolute garbage!
Curious buddy
Curious buddy Mês atrás
@fakecubed p
Blase Mês atrás
Yeah but at that point i guess you should consider a 360mm AIO with the size of the CPU because the 4090 is only that big because of the heatsink
OribaShoji Mês atrás
The 4080 is also massive
Gpt Rage
Gpt Rage 2 meses atrás
The moment I read this lynus started talking about that
Jon Colverson
Jon Colverson 3 meses atrás
The chaos level of those filenames is impressive. I bet LMG has strict workflow processes in place purely to ensure that Linus never gets the chance to name a important file.
ukko myrsky
ukko myrsky Mês atrás
@ssokolow "[chuckle]" 🤓
ssokolow 3 meses atrás
[chuckle] Yeah. People generally don't think to make sure their programs handle "filename too long" gracefully. PTS was just trying to soldier on rather than aborting after the first failure.
Hein Beukes
Hein Beukes 3 meses atrás
I can see how AI will become a real contender in pretty much every field with hardware like this coming out. Geez
Xavier Gutierrez
Xavier Gutierrez 3 meses atrás
As someone who occasionally works with HPC servers but never a 40 series card, that comparison at 9:19 is wild. The 4090 is too damn big.
GetInTheSpace Mês atrás
They might as well just mount the 4090 externally at this point. It's HUGE.
Dodgy Dodgson
Dodgy Dodgson Mês atrás
Gonna get to the point where the GPU is going to be a desktop tower that you have a huge extra adapter for.
Burke Johnson
Burke Johnson 2 meses atrás
@cliff bird What you said about Nvidia scamming is baseless bullshit. The 4080 has 4 more gigs of vram than the 3080ti and its boost clock is nearly a gigahertz higher.
cliff bird
cliff bird 2 meses atrás
not just big but heavy as well. if the 50 series is going to be bigger very few will have cases big enough to fit it in. Ive got a full size case and the 4090 only just fits in. had to take some HHD enclosures out to get it in. mine came with a support rod to support the weight of it lol. it screws into the rear end closest to the front of the case and it sits on the bottom of the case to give it extra support. had probs trying to fit the support rod as i have an intake fan on the bottom of the case where the support rod is supposed to go. its the length that is the prob with them not how many slots they take up. No way will u be able to put 2 of them in a case and use SLI with them cause the motherboard would buckle under the weight of them. you also have to keep an eye on the 40 series cards as the power cables from the PSU to the GPU can melt and catch fire. Nvidia had to get new cables made so the newer cables should be fine but if u get 1 of the 1st gen cables that come with the GPU it could melt. Its a 16 pin cable but not the same type other GPU use. its 12 pins then another 4 smaller pins so an adaptor is supplied so it can be connected to a PSU and its the adaptor that has the fault. the adaptor has sockets to fit in 3 8 pin cables from the PSU. its where the adaptor fits into the GPU where it tends to melt and catch fire if its not put in correctly or becomes lose and its not a very tight fit so can come lose very easy. seems Nvidia r scamming a bit as well turns out the 4080 is a 3080TI rebadged and put in a bigger case
Moose Moose
Moose Moose 3 meses atrás
the 5 is going to be 4 full slots. the 4 series is only 3.5. so prepare for them to get even bigger
bubly 3 meses atrás
Reminds me when I installed 4x EPYC 7742 and 4x wtv the 8core was CPUs in new servers. They ate paste like crazy and had to go back to the store twice to get more. Was an honor.
fifthpickle 14 dias atrás
I use toothpaste instead of that "special" whatever. Never had a CPU burn on me.
Ronak patel
Ronak patel 2 meses atrás
man i can only imagine how surprisingly amzed look you would have
domain mojo
domain mojo 2 meses atrás
Some guys have all the luck.
Cheesesalad 3 meses atrás
Man, we are at the point where we could theoretically install an operating system on the L3 cache alone.
FLMKane Mês atrás
@dylan chen yeah but how do you even create that "cache drive"? Wait a minute... I just realized that mean my entire initramfs can fit on cache? Maybe create a slightly different version called the initcachefs?
dylan chen
dylan chen Mês atrás
@Mark An older debian would probably run xfce with 768mb of ram reasonably well, you can probably fire up a few programs while using the desktop.
Ceej Mês atrás
someone has actually done this already. I think with win95
Francesco Mantegazza
@Mathew Gordon it would literally be instantaneous, only lag there would be is preloading those 200mb on the l3 cache and you know, having more free for other tasks
BloonMan13 2 meses atrás
Storing bad apple in the cache
Thanny 3 meses atrás
The Blender result isn't necessarily another dual-Genoa system. Blender tests have a single-threaded setup period at the beginning. With such a short render time overall, that setup period becomes significant. So if you have, say, 64 total cores with an EPYC F-series chip (the higher frequency models), the setup period will complete faster, allowing the render proper to begin faster. The actual render time could easily take longer, while the total task time is shorter due to a faster single-core speed.
Teluric 2 meses atrás
Windows cant eat all that cores you need linux to squeeze all that cores. Poor tim cook he must be salivating
Globus Eric
Globus Eric 3 meses atrás
Back in around 2015 when I was still in college, AMD was particular with hiring. They hired those mostly from the best unis and it finally paid off.
Dodgy Dodgson
Dodgy Dodgson Mês atrás
@Thomas B You apparently forgot that AMD actually got a nice headstart in the GPU market by acquiring ATI. They already proved they were capable and weren't all that small. You make it sound like AMD cut their tiny little corner shop in half to make GPUs one day.
Thomas B
Thomas B 3 meses atrás
their limitation is being one company and they're smaller than intel and nvidia while competing against both, so half of AMD is making CPUs to compete against cpu behometh Intel and the other half is making GPUs competing against GPU behometh Nvidia
Toothbresh 2 meses atrás
The production value is so so so great on this channel, shout out the camera and editing crew!
proxgs 3 meses atrás
If you are benchmarking Ubuntu, you have to set the scaling_governor to "performance" because by default, Ubuntu sets it to "powersave" even on Ubuntu Server.
Nick Northcutt
Nick Northcutt 19 dias atrás
Ahh that makes sense
AstralPhnx Mês atrás
That's fucking bizarre
proxgs 2 meses atrás
@Lux Aeterna performance won't make you all your cores run "all the time" at max frequency. Also, RHEL distros uses performance by default.
Andrew Gurinovich
Andrew Gurinovich 3 meses atrás
you sure its not "balanced"?
Josef Jiřík
Josef Jiřík 3 meses atrás
The sound of that server at high speeds reminded me of a subway train standing in a station waiting for passengers. Awesome
brodriguez11000 2 meses atrás
Gets annoying after awhile. That's why remote capability is so important. Put the noise elsewhere.
Hayden Oliver
Hayden Oliver 3 meses atrás
I work in the HPC industry and can confidently say that the EPYC Genoa-X instance types on AWS and Azure are going to be a big hit. All of our major customers have been requesting access to these processors since they are blazing fast and have an incredible interconnect speeds. It's a lot of fun to be an early adopter of this amount of processing power.
StarGateSG7 2 meses atrás
@_lk_s We had a similar issue back in the day with the AMD Abu Dhabi and earlier Opteron 12 core and 16 core processors (we had 250,000+ of them in our Northern Canada datacentre along with various RISC processors which was technically the fastest Supercomputer in the world at the time but we never reported it to the T500 list!) We got an enormous increase in processing speed by creating a super-optimized imaging, encryption, compression, advanced trigonometry plus vector array math routines, and expert-systems database and data-mining routines library entirely using locally-optimized CPU registers for storage and fine-tuned AMD SSE-1/2/3 instructions which we mapped to easy-to-use and network callable C++ functions. This custom library took the internal team TWO YEARS to code but it's still used today twenty years later in our older systems. All that assembler-code expertise did us VERY WELL when we finally went over to our internally-designed and manufacturered super-CPU's that took us over TEN YEARS to design and build for final tape-out which are CISC-based 128-bits wide running on GaAs (60 GHz) and RISC-based 128-bits wide opto-electronic-on-borosilicate (2 THz) substrates. Intel is NOT the only player in supercomputing and AMD is a great buy for those who want a specific type of parallism and multi-processing that Intel CANNOT give you! I definitely notice that SSE instructions mated to common imaging tasks BLOW AWAY the equivalent Intel performance metrics. Rendering a series of raytraced images and/or doing physics-based object/vehicle modelling and collision-deformation physics in parallel using SSE instructions on AMD Rome and Genoa EPYC cpus is an automatic 20-to-30% boost over Intel equivalents !!! Then add in Encryption, Compression and Decompression and long-form multi-language Unicode string searches ALSO make for an AMD strong-point! Intel though STILL is better at gaming on one to four threads. Past four-threads it's all AMD for massivelly parallel rendering work! I should note though, we (i.e. NCA-North Canadian Aerospace) STILL BLOWS AWAY ALL AMD, Intel, IBM, ARM, RISC-V processors on absolute 128-bit computing and outright computer fire-power using our in-house systems though! It's REALLY kinda hard to argue against massively parallel super-computer systems that range from One to 20 YottaFLOPS where a single one of our in-house designed and built fully-ITAR-free 2 THz combined CPU/GPU/DSP/Vector chips is over 50 PetaFLOPS in 128-bit trig, vector math and general imaging computational horsepower! Meh! V
Teluric 2 meses atrás
​​@StarGateSG7o. Because linux cant match ibm computers on z/os on reliability.
Teluric 2 meses atrás
​@Jeff Hendershota lot of software can use all the cores you can feed some genomics software can eat like 2TB ram and run for weeks nonstop.
StarGateSG7 3 meses atrás
​@Jeff Hendershot More cores means more IN-PARALLEL operations per second. For example: I am searching for a room temperature superconductor candidate and have narrowed it down to Yttrium-Copper-Aluminum-Calcium-Magnesium-Manganese-Vanadium-Zirconium-Gallium-Ferric-Silicon-Oxide BUT which actual formulas in what chemical formulas and proportions will make me a FLEXIBLE ceramics-based room-temperature superconductor? I need to test the various atomic/molecular bindings, their group thermal and conductive properties, their structural strength and longevity, and so many other properties such that I will assign ONE processing core for each candidate and iterate through all my data-mining criteria for EACH separate Superconductor Formula in parallel so I can check different formula properties all-at-once! The more cores I have, the more chemical formulas I can check per second! If I rack TWENTY dual-EPYC-processor motherboards that is a total of 96 cores running two application runtime threads per core for 192 threads per CPU, those twenty motherboards with 40 CPUs will have 3840 cores running 7680 runtime threads meaning I can run 7680 SEPARATE chemical formula searches AT THE SAME TIME so I find find the world's FIRST Room Temperature Superconductor! P.S. That above ceramic "formula" is one of the REAL CHEMICALS our parent Aerospace corporation is finding as a possible candidate for a real-world Room Temperature Superconductor! We found that Gallium is Key to superconductivity at -150C to +200 Celcius operation and are ALSO FINDING that the addition of Bismuth and Palladium are ALSO adding some "interesting EM properties" to our compounds! For those of you who need lots of cores, EPYC is no slouch when it comes to multi-threading to find the next Cancer Cure or the next ultra-strong and lightweight artificial Spider Silk cloth chemical formula! THAT is why we NEED MORE CORES!!!! It means that we can look-through and check more items per second in a simultaneous manner to find one or more candidates for a valuable and sellable end-product! V
Malou Rocha
Malou Rocha 3 meses atrás
@StarGateSG7 lol thnx for the info bro, . I remember it was a certain cpu that needed a different memory, I’ve searched and can’t find it, Mandela effect maybe?? It might be the one you mentioned but not sure if it was that far back. I’m guessing it was either a w variant, Xeon, extreme or even threadripper. I just remember Linus saying the model needed different ram and mobo
Michael Howarth
Michael Howarth 3 meses atrás
I feel like we maybe walking into a tech where things start to get bigger again. Then we try to figure out how to make it smaller again. And I’m glad for that.
Mike Arisbrocken
Mike Arisbrocken 3 meses atrás
I used to work in a server motherboard manufacturer, involved in the SMT and DIP process and believe me, the more pins a socket has, the more stress it gave me. This straight out gave me Vietnam-like flashbacks. The amount of scrap due to bent pins that we didn’t know where it happened is amazing. I still don’t know how our company had any profits.
Making Geology Fun!
Making Geology Fun! 3 meses atrás
I remember being fascinated by the FX-9590 8-core CPU when I was in high school. All of us nerds were drooling over that. I could have never imagined that there would be 96/192 core/thread CPUs.
Sabret00th Sabret00th
The problem is still the speed. Writing code that can utilize many cores for most applications is not possible. Rather have high GHz over high core count.
NOOB 2 meses atrás
@slash2bot oh wow
slash2bot 2 meses atrás
We were drooling over the multi million 96 node 64 bit super computer that got installed in our uni when we were there. Threadrippers have been eating it up quite some time ago.
brocktechnology 3 meses atrás
I realize that many people are eagerly awaiting this sort of power to get there work done but I can't imagine what I would ever do with it.
TbT 3 meses atrás
@Pixels Our (bio)fluidics researchers have told me that that is unfortunately not (yet) possible, so they are limited to CPUs. We have "graphics cards" (if you wanna call an A100 that) with up to 80GB of VRAM, so that is quite a high ceiling. I think it is something more technical. We have other GPU workloads (like neural net training) which again consume however many graphics cards they can get.
Mario Darnadi
Mario Darnadi 3 meses atrás
@Pixels thats not as easy. Sim on GPU got one big problem and thats limited Vram. and it will be problem for many years to come
Mario Darnadi
Mario Darnadi 3 meses atrás
i would run sims on it stored on RAM. 12TB is finally enough. When you have one sim scene that is 3TB without problem.
Fyn Kozari
Fyn Kozari 3 meses atrás
Ryzen 7700 65w coming January 10th.
God walk on 10 years in Minecraft dude
Simon Kormendy
Simon Kormendy 2 meses atrás
What I would have done is let the new server go through a complete reboot and then re-ran cinebench, reason being is that I think the performance might be taking hits from Windows updates and driver installs and such, you may find that if you let the new server do a few full re-boots the performance may improve a lot.
Simon R
Simon R 3 meses atrás
I can imagine telling my 14 year old self, using Windows 98 on a 600MB hard drive, that there would eventually be a 96 core CPU
Kernelpickle 2 meses atrás
@Tom Smith I had an Atari 800, but it was the late 80's to early 90's when other kids I knew definitely had IBM compatible machines that ran DOS.
CazRaX 3 meses atrás
@Vivago No, there aren't, IBM mainframes are many of hundreds of individual CPUs working together but there is no single CPU that has that many cores. IBM's newest CPU, the Telum, is an 8 core CPU but it can scale to 32 chips per unit and multiple units can be interconnected. The older z15 had 12 cores and the z14 had up to 10, the thing to remember about a mainframe is the number of cores it says is never on one chip it is total for the entire system which is really a lot of server units linked together.
KD2 Itz Blitz
KD2 Itz Blitz 3 meses atrás
I see something are optical cpu that looks interesting 1000x faster then today's tech the problem we have with tech right now is its reaching limits with how small the semi conductor are at
Kieran Foot
Kieran Foot 3 meses atrás
I started with a 386 and an 80MB HDD lol
Pixels 3 meses atrás
If you told me you could get 14 cores in a single package for 300 bucks back then, I would laugh at you.
Dan White
Dan White 3 meses atrás
I wonder just how physically large CPUs can get before it experiences issues due to timing (as in, signals having to move further and resistance of the internals messing stuff up), pad pressure, heat issues, or other major issues.
Khola 3 meses atrás
CXL sounds very interesting. Could really shake up the space if something like that made it into the consumer x86 market.
Rodiculous 2 meses atrás
Man imagine having to manufacture all those tiny pins, truly insane tech
Ron Tarrant
Ron Tarrant 3 meses atrás
Wow, I'm so envious of Linus getting to play with ALL THAT AMAZING GEAR!! I live vicariously through you, sir!
AlphaYellow 3 meses atrás
Damn bruh... all those records you beat, it's just crazy the amount of cores and cache size they managed to fit into it.
Jure Maček
Jure Maček 3 meses atrás
Competition indeed does breed inovation. Still remember when AMD was the underdog? Do you?
Just that one lad
Just that one lad 19 dias atrás
@Corktail for x86? Sure but in general, no
Myro Mês atrás
Yeah bro I just recently started looking into pc parts again to upgrade from my 2016 build and was only seeking out intel 😭
Post-Left Luddite
Post-Left Luddite Mês atrás
Intel has a $15 billion R&D budget, Nvidia has a $5.27 Billion R&D budget, and AMD has a $2 Billion R&D budget.....AMD is still the underdog and we should all be hoping for their success as the best a consumer can hope for in a duopoly is a 50%/50% marketshare split for a balance of power and AMD is still far from that in x86 (especially in the most lucrative x86 segments mobility and enterprise)
superJK92 Mês atrás
@Corktail No there are more there's ARM as well
Dodgy Dodgson
Dodgy Dodgson Mês atrás
@Corktail "my brother in christ, there are only 2 cpu makers" Yeah. I know right? Nobody makes ARM chips and I'm 100% certain that there aren't specialized CPUs you can get from IBM or anything like that. Correction: There are only two mainstream desktop PC CPU brands in the consumer space.
a s
a s 3 meses atrás
Being able to reallocate PCI-e lanes for intersocket communication on dual socket servers is cool
ricky v
ricky v 3 meses atrás
Seeing Linus be so happy about this new CPU was wonderful. I know I'd be that excited to run these benchmarks. I wouldn't be happy to watch that boot time. Maybe a coffee break is in order for every reboot? (:
James Sutton
James Sutton 2 meses atrás
You had me at 96 cores....then you throw in that it supports 6 Terabytes of DDR5!!! My mind completely exploded after that!!! Now imagine those numbers on a video card.....when that day comes I'm upgrading.
Tyler the disturber
Tyler the disturber 3 meses atrás
Now we need it to be on a motherboard thing that acts like a gpu. Imagine, you use one of these for the CPU, other for the gpu.
ajr993 3 meses atrás
In addition to the super micro servers, the HPE proliants are VERY good with these chips. If you run HPE proliant Gen 11 servers with dHCI and Alletra 9k storage you're going to have an unbelievably powerful setup with extremely high density.
brodriguez11000 2 meses atrás
But...will it run Crysis?
oMega 3 meses atrás
- “How large is your computer's RAM?” - "Three Terrabytes." - "I mean the RAM, not storage! You know nothing about a computer." - "No, YOU know nothing about EPYC Genoa" *pulls out personal server*
fakecubed 3 meses atrás
@Yuan Liu I wish 256 GB of RAM was available on consumer hardware already.
Tuha 3 meses atrás
Bra 😂
argentaegis 3 meses atrás
@pv2b Entirely possible. Probably the computer equivalent of $800 kicks, but hey, it's whoever's money.
pv2b 3 meses atrás
@argentaegis If he can afford 3 TB of RAM to put in his personal server, he must be doing something right with his personal finances.
argentaegis 3 meses atrás
"Okay, you know about computers. However, if you put 3TB of RAM in a personal server I question your knowledge of personal finance."
Dominic Mason
Dominic Mason 3 meses atrás
Just think of the old days when some MMO's (Star wars Galaxies released back in June 2003) were ran on 100's of Pentium II cpu's. Now can be ran on just one of these bad boys. Pretty amazing. Would love to have one of those Supermicro servers for my home lab virtualization. After I win the lottery of course.
MSandeep Vlogs
MSandeep Vlogs 3 meses atrás
That Cinebench rendering was felt like the transition effect one apply in video editing. Obviously so fast.
ARBO Perry
ARBO Perry 3 meses atrás
can't wait to see this system sold @1% of the price in 10 years later
TrS 3 meses atrás
The side by side comparison just showed me how enormous a 4090 is
chris watts
chris watts 3 meses atrás
Thank god this is for servers because I saw the title after ordering my i9-13900k for my 4090 build and my heart sank 🤣 I thought I woke up and computing technology had a massive breakthrough overnight and my heart sank to my butthole 😭😭
aaradorn 3 meses atrás
Comes in, breaks records, leaves. Absolute monstrous CPU's.
Nicky 3 meses atrás
I’m very curious what integrated graphics this would be capable of
Singularity Gaming
Singularity Gaming 2 meses atrás
I didn't understand half of what Linus said, but I loved every minute of it, just knowing how absolutely monstrous this stuff is.
Potatopotatopotatopotatopotatopotato POTATOPOTATO
I felt the frustration Linus was feeling during the first half of the video where things weren't planned and things got delayed by the insane boot times, hyper threading wasn't enabled and that something as simple as HWinfo64 wasn't even installed. This reminds me of WAN show a few weeks back where Linus talked about how his patience for stupidity had gotten lower and lower throughout the years
Fenfire 2 meses atrás
It will be an amazing server cpu! With modern programming languages it is very common to benefit from multicpu alot. You can run dozens of docker images with it. But i doubt you would need a cpu like that in a pc :D
Engage RC
Engage RC 3 meses atrás
You know you have a monster CPU when you don't actually use it to do anything, but just run one benchmark after another with it.
no name
no name 3 meses atrás
In regards to the RDDR5 peculiarities you guys noticed in this video - DDR2/DDR3/DDR4 were all 72-bit ECC. As you noticed, DDR5 is 80-bit ECC due to the DDR5 DIMM having two separate 32-bit subchannels. Each subchannel needs its own parity, and while it only needs 4 bits of ECC per subchannel, there aren't any 4 bit die structures so they get a full 8 bits of parity each. This means, yeah, a non-ECC DIMM has 8 DRAM chips, and an ECC DDR5 DIMM has 10. Previous DDR formats only needed 9 per rank. Since 10 chips is 11% more than 9 chips, there will always be at LEAST an 11% cost premium for DDR5 ECC DIMMs compared to DDR4 even if there is a per-bit price parity between DDR4 and DDR5 DRAM. Also, due to each DDR5 DIMM having an onboard VRM, DDR5 will cost more by structure. Eventually, DDR4 and DDR5 DRAM production volumes will flip, so eventually DDR5 becomes lower cost than DDR4. However, there's always going to be that cost premium baked into the structure. Also, there will be off-roadmap 72bit DDR5 RDIMMs designed for specific hyperscale customers who do not want to pay the 11% extra bit premium for full 80bit ECC. A 72bit DDR5 ECC DIMM does NOT have full ECC coverage, but companies like AWS who control their entire software stack have written their environment to be aware of this and just deal with it. 72bit DDR5 will not be available to general customers because most people won't understand what 72bit DDR5 is, would buy it expecting ECC support, and have ECC failures in production due to the nature of 72bit ECC in DDR5. To avoid customer fallout, these 72bit modules won't be available to most customers nor will they be advertised on websites or general product roadmaps. Secondly, you noticed that the registered and unbuffered DIMMs have a different notch. This has always been the case. You were not specifically comparing ECC vs non-ECC DIMMs in this video when you compared the key notch - yes, one had ECC support and the other did not, however, the key difference was one was an Unbuffered DIMM and the other was a Registered DIMM. There are no modern memory controllers which can support both RDIMM and UDIMM memory modules, so they are keyed differently. All registered or RDIMM modules are ECC, but unbuffered or UDIMM modules can be ECC or non-ECC. Consumer processors are all based on UDIMM. So, yes, you can have a CPU support both ECC and Non-ECC memory. Specifically, unbuffered ECC and unbuffered Non-ECC.
Bob Morton
Bob Morton Mês atrás
They are all super slow. It seems the newer the technology, the slower it is. It is funny how years ago, RD ram was faster than anything that is being produced today. Too bad people get hooked on useless information and play of words to make them think things are faster today. My P4 with 512megs of RD ram was still faster then anything that is on the market today. Trying to use a new computer today is like watching paint dry when you are trying to open notepad.
Linkarlos64 2 meses atrás
This guy rams
Paul Luce
Paul Luce 2 meses atrás
I have bookmarked this page for this response alone. Thank you for educating us.
Vigilant_1 2 meses atrás
@D-no OK. I think I saw it before it was edited and I understood it.
Gritted 2 meses atrás
Yeah I didn’t understand any of what you just said
B Targ
B Targ 3 meses atrás
I can't wait for the technology in this thing to be widespread in the consumer market in a few years!
Liam3072 3 meses atrás
This thing has enough cache that it could almost install and run Windows XP entirely on cache. The L3 cache is a little too low unfortunately, but it could easily host a Windows 98 install.
Sven 3 meses atrás
That 4090 comparison made me flinch in my chair that thing is scarily big
Bco1981 3 meses atrás
Would have been nice to see the cinebench single score too.
Anonymous 42
Anonymous 42 Mês atrás
Who else was super nervous watching Linus hold that CPU?
Maksymilian Kuźnik
Maksymilian Kuźnik 3 meses atrás
Almost 20 years ago we were stunned with dual-core CPUs. It's amazing, what AMD is doing.
SaHaRaSquad 3 meses atrás
@BH4x0r So what? Use a decent machine with ARM and you'll see how little the instruction count matters in 99.9% of situations. I don't know what your point is, I literally just mentioned a CPU with an insane number of cores, I don't know what the hell you interpreted into that.
D827 Kelly
D827 Kelly 3 meses atrás
@Heath Mitchell a lot of uses will probably split those cores up for virtualisation. And the us3 cases that require that many cores would be very bespoke software applications, in much the same way as software that will take advantage of the upcoming genoa-x will be (genoa-x being the 3dvcache version of the chip, with way more l3 cache than even these have, but with less cores and lower clocks as the cache is more important than the speed or the core count for certain specific applications).
Kiloneie 3 meses atrás
And AMD was the first with dual core.
Michael Pohoreski
Michael Pohoreski 3 meses atrás
AMD is putting the AMD in Amdahl's Law! /s =P
Sebastian Jost
Sebastian Jost 3 meses atrás
@SaHaRaSquad just looked it up. That's absolutely insane... They also just launched a new supercomputer a few weeks ago... Apparently it uses just 16 chips yet still has 13.5 Million (!) cores 😯😲 For others: Look up: "WSE-2 chips"
Unknown 3 meses atrás
Hey Linus, any idea when they'll be releasing a contact frame for this CPU?
Techwolf Lupindo
Techwolf Lupindo 3 meses atrás
Would love to see non-SMT and SMT benchmarks. My understanding that performance is equel at 8 cores, but at higher cores, non-SMT is faster due to the SMT overhead of running two threads per core.
sdcf334 3 meses atrás
I think you should start testing servers like these under Windows Server, desktop Windows can't handle that much power :D
Malte Spielt
Malte Spielt 3 meses atrás
The biggest issue is heat and power usage. it's insane having dual / quad 2200/3000w power supplies in servers now... Plus, Supermicro has always been taking ages to boot
FeelSmart 3 meses atrás
My first job working on server BIOS was actually on the AMD Genoa platform for Dell, it’s so cool seeing people work with it now that it’s public
Music Minute
Music Minute 3 meses atrás
This is the video that finally made me realize how big a 4090 really is. I actually started laughing when that comparison happened wow
Derick D
Derick D 3 meses atrás
@Jimmy Jones or maybe, like me, I didn't feel like watching the whole thing but when I saw the comment it intrigued me. So for others like me, there's your time saved
zalyster 3 meses atrás
At 12 inches it's huge, but the 3090 was actually 12.5 inches, so somehow even bigger.
Dicey 3 meses atrás
It's comically large lol
Jimmy Jones
Jimmy Jones 3 meses atrás
@Derick D If you missed it then you must be blind.
Derick D
Derick D 3 meses atrás
For those looking, it's 9:16
T λ C O. phox
T λ C O. phox 3 meses atrás
Thank you for using Linux and Phoronix's benchmarking. It's probably the only way you're really gonna see this monster platform shine
Nis random 101
Nis random 101 3 meses atrás
Seems like it's about damn time for 80 gamers (your staff) one PC. Bring them old LTT days!!👏👏
pleappleappleap 2 meses atrás
If you want to max the memory channels, it's 24 DIMMs at a time. 12 per CPU.
Ngoprol 3 meses atrás
we're finally coming to the time when you need to scroll to see the entire cpu cores on task manager
AA M 2 meses atrás
Can just imagine watching this in 20 years.. will be like watching super computers of the 70's.. lol :)
Friday Californiaa
Friday Californiaa 3 meses atrás
You know you have a beefy CPU when your OS's Task Manager window shows CPU cores like it's a defrag.exe from the late 90s 😂
Teluric 2 meses atrás
​@The Silver4 dies not 4 cpus. A cpu is a whole package
pandemicNEETbux 2 meses atrás
@Nirmal Singh wait are you seriously not getting this joke
pandemicNEETbux 2 meses atrás
@Nirmal Singh If I was an engineer for them I'd be buying myself an Epyc and making a "why does this even exist" rig for the lulz, like the 10k systems people ask Linus to make. But why? Because I too would like 512gb of RAM. I stilll have my laptops' 512mb RAM stick I wanted to sell lol
Nirmal Singh
Nirmal Singh 2 meses atrás
@The Silver so? its called interconnect, its the future, from google to IBM everyone is using amd Epyc cpus, if that goes over your head, just focus on application performance, everything will be chiplets in future...
The Silver
The Silver 2 meses atrás
@Nirmal Singh You don't need to be an engineer to see it's clearly 4 CPUs into one. Also, stop this bullshit "muh if you don't like AMD you must be an Intel user!!"
musikSkool 3 meses atrás
I always want to see one of these server CPUs on Minecraft with max draw distance. Maybe even ATM8 mod with RTX set to Ultra.
exciting-burp 3 meses atrás
That's enough cores to act as a GPU pretty reliably, memory latency and other fundamental motherboard-side issues aside.
Dytallix X
Dytallix X 3 meses atrás
I always wanted to see AMD compete with intel or even surpass them at one point. It makes me feel good inside.
Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly 3 meses atrás
This is why I love AMD and makes me glad I I bought their stock in the 90's. Sorry I'm late to the party, but it was company Christmas time.
nsn2635 26 dias atrás
Holy shit! That server sounds like a goddamn air raid siren in the background! And I really hope that today's server grade performance becomes tomorrow's consumer grade. Fingers crossed
MisterHidden 3 meses atrás
The comparison between the PSU and the 4090 had me laugh spontaneously.
Matasa 3 meses atrás
That thing is a straight up brick. It can, unironically, be used as a murder weapon.
Leggo My Ego
Leggo My Ego 3 meses atrás
@The Echelon Well most people won't want a "shit brick house" as their case, but GPUs aren't going to get any smaller. The HAF 700 is definitely overkill, and intentionally so since I planned on a dual GPU system. However, mini-itx is pretty much a dead form factor for modern GPUs and it's likely ATX and EATX will be the only form factors that allow future GPUs, with even the standard ATX becoming cramped and possibly causing thermal limiting in air cooled setups.
Leggo My Ego
Leggo My Ego 3 meses atrás
@ノルtacon my previous system was a dual GPU system, but they were workstation GPUs so you're on the right track. My original intention was to run dual 4090s, but right now the single 4090 is handling my workload without it being really necessary to get another. The sick thing is that any more than two 4090s in my system would require me to hire an electrician to add circuits to handle the load. I'm hoping when Nvidia comes out with the workstation version of the 4090 (presumably called the A7000) that it's more energy efficient and not a crazy markup over the rtx 4090.
Leggo My Ego
Leggo My Ego 3 meses atrás
Pioteko You should move down here to the states. The 4090s have been fairly well restocked in microcenters here in the US, they even had founders editions in stock yesterday, but I get your point. I definitely refused to pay the scalpers prices. I got mine by just checking the microcenter website a few times a day and when I finally saw a liquid suprim x in stock I ran to my car and drove there as fast as I could. Yesterday was the first time I have seen them have a founders edition in stock though.
Manuel Munguía
Manuel Munguía 3 meses atrás
@Imad R Dont worry, you willp rob get 4090 performance in 3 gpus generations, so the RTX 7060 might achieve similar 4090 performance.
Xerofire 3 meses atrás
That 4090 being as long as that PSU is wild. Guess Nvidia thinks size does matter.
Toxic 2T
Toxic 2T 2 meses atrás
@Leonhart damn
Leonhart 3 meses atrás
It's the way they "cheated" the transistor size limitations to get more performance. Just stick more of them inside, even if they aren't smaller, easy. You just end up with twice the size and twice the heat and power consumption....
Ithirahad 3 meses atrás
The stats are amazing, but at this point I've got stats fatigue with these, as it's totally expected that the stats will be amazing each new generation. So instead of commenting on that, I'll just observe that the IHS is really pretty. :3
Gregory Shumaker
Gregory Shumaker 2 meses atrás
This is fucking insane. As someone who works on enterprise hardware I hope I get sent one of these soonish
nesper8 3 meses atrás
I wanna see how fast Gentoo Linux will compile on it
Angel G
Angel G 3 meses atrás
The DDR-5 here runs at 4800MT/s which is somewhat better than you can get on the desktop with 4x32GB modules. I realized that the DDR5 desktops can run only in 1R1 config. at the advertised speed then when you want to increase the ram to 64 or 128GB they perform worse than ddr4....
The Midnight Sailor
The Midnight Sailor 3 meses atrás
Was floored at the 4090 comparison, the fact that the card is the size of the power supply and looked like a tenth of the server rack, is insane.
Khola 3 meses atrás
Well, er yeah, obviously that would be great. Count me in. Then you just know an AIB partner in 2036 is going to push 800watts through that puppy to power the 80,000 shader units and the GDDR11XX. Until we hit some kind of ceiling or have some kind of sensible standard this shit is just going to get crazier and crazier. Unless there's some kind of architecture or engine that renders all that power obsolete. I started to get hyped for the Euclidean thing until I realised it was all voxel... But something. Just don't knock the people that made it all possible. These guys are legends. They made all this real. Like Dave Haynie and the guys at Commodore are my heroes.The whole 'boomer' shit is just insolent, infant bullshit to piss people off and get attention. Rise above that. You're better than that.
Fyn Kozari
Fyn Kozari 3 meses atrás
It's called bad engineering. Boomer tech. I can wait for thin small nice gpu with 75 watt to play 4K 240fps. No cable needed.
Khola 3 meses atrás
@Pedro Silva micro itx, you're probably right!
Pedro Silva
Pedro Silva 3 meses atrás
Yeah man, that thing is insane. I bet theres ITX cases with less volume than that
Tyler 3 meses atrás
I really wanted to buy AMD stock back in 2015. I knew my gut feeling was right with everything I knew.
Aither 3 meses atrás
Like described here, size doesn't matter if you can with upgraded "internal tech" do the same thing with "a smaller physical one".. Has Linus' tech updated / gotten better? :D
Gaming Dad
Gaming Dad 3 meses atrás
Seeing how Linus handle ram gives me a heart attack each and every time... Even the way he screwed in the CPU made me flip a bit...
Cyberguy42 3 meses atrás
7:49 "Well, you'd need a pretty complicated PCI-E switch to go back to Gen 4 and have that full bandwidth" True, I'm glad you added that caveat. AFAIK, there is no such switch; I am also unaware of any Gen 4 to Gen 3 converter. I'm hoping someone can prove me wrong though, such splitters would be useful.
Jal3x 3 meses atrás
I wonder what would happen if they just completely disregarded the size of a cpu and built off from there, like how much larger it would get and would it increase in specs exponentially? For sure it requires a compatible and optimized motherboard but if size didn't matter couldn't they revolutionize the world of computers.
G Money
G Money 3 meses atrás
Love how this makes my "overkill" 13900k look like a Celeron lol
Alex Schorr
Alex Schorr 3 meses atrás
@flameshana9 not true. Imagine you had 30 people, which represents cores. You tell the 30 people to do a task, such as cleaning a house. They can split up and all clean different portions of the house and do it 30 times faster. This is a task that can utilize multiple people. Now I tell them to write a 30 page story about a cat. They cannot write them all at the same time, they don’t all know what the story should be, and need someone to write page 1 first, then based off of what was written on page 1, write page 2, etc. this is a task that cannot utilize more cores, so it doesn’t matter how many you have. Lots of tasks a pc does are dependent on the previous results and cannot be multithreaded. Having 128 cores does not make it faster if the cores are slower than a fast 8 core. For a lot of tasks the 8 core would faster than the 128 core.
A Closer Look
A Closer Look 3 meses atrás
@Asmodin "running well" is so subjective. If it can run cp2077 over 60hz at 1440p ultra settings I would say that was running pretty well. If it's noticably slower in Photoshop then the next guy will call it trash. If you run old servers as workstations then a i7 9700 equivalent with 96 frickin cores is just peachy, I'd imagine.
Asmodin 3 meses atrás
@alaskan hybrid it all just depends if the specific workload scales well to running in parallel or not. Or you want to tell me finishing calculations in less time isn't faster? Yes, single threaded workloads obviously don't run well on this, but that's not what it's designed to do in the first place
alaskan hybrid
alaskan hybrid 3 meses atrás
@flameshana9 doing things fast with many cores is powerful doing things fast with one core is quick.
flameshana9 3 meses atrás
@alaskan hybrid power = speed, bruh
Topottsel 3 meses atrás
Bring this server back and smash all the records!
Ulrich Kälber
Ulrich Kälber 3 meses atrás
Someone suggested to run an OS on the cache of the CPU. Could you run two chess programs on the two caches of the two processor server running against each other?
MacDuder217 2 meses atrás
I’m not in the tech/computer industry and know just enough computer to do PC gaming and understand the basic computer terms… but I love how I find myself watching Linus’s videos and nodding like I understand what all these terms/phrases mean when he explains things beyond the general consumer level lol.
Mitsou44 3 meses atrás
Giving Linus two server is a smart move.
Fardeen_Ahmed 2 meses atrás
Always wanted see the best intro of techburners on youtube. Literally yours one always fits and rocks🤖🤖💥💥
Eathen Norton
Eathen Norton 3 meses atrás
It’s almost stupid to think that just 30 years ago we couldn’t even have one mb of vram and we were not hitting even 200 mhz frequencies and now we got 96 core CPUs boosting to very good frequencies
Eathen Norton
Eathen Norton 2 meses atrás
@Bob Lister lol I wasn’t even born at that point
Eathen Norton
Eathen Norton 2 meses atrás
@mcl48YT for gaming that’s mostly true
W Z 3 meses atrás
@mcl48YT if a game or video editor can fully use more than that why not?
Eathen Norton
Eathen Norton 3 meses atrás
@W Z Crazy how far we've come in such a short time
Hao Tu Git Gud
Hao Tu Git Gud 3 meses atrás
@mcl48YT If you talk strictly about gaming, then yeah sure. 6 cores are optimal. Even so, new games nowadays now utilized more than six cores.
Nick K
Nick K 3 meses atrás
Using spaces in filenames is something I would absolutely expect Linus to do
Boyan Krosnov
Boyan Krosnov 3 meses atrás
There are DDR5 ECC UDIMMs that fit desktop motherboards and the rare Ryzen server boards. These are different from DDR5 ECC RDIMMs (registered) modules that EPYC supports. RDIMMs don't fit desktop boards but ECC UDIMMs do.
Kori Stan
Kori Stan 2 meses atrás
You guys should figure out how to get six graphics cards to spread a load out between them. I feel like it’d be a fun vid to watch.
Gidi 3 meses atrás
We really need a table of [Use Case] to [core count] Because it feels that more tasks can be done without using the hard-drive, user, or other net linked computers. I mean using the big space on the CPU. Like, running a calculator doesn't require that chip so what does?!
xDaNk KoOl aiDx
xDaNk KoOl aiDx 3 meses atrás
I previously got the gigabyte gaming oc Radeon rx 6750xt it’s pretty good but the only problem is that my junction temp gets extremely hot including my gpu temps. Playing The Callisto protocol my gpu get extremely hot when I play the game. Linus has blessed me with this boost because my gpu runs cooler now and now I don’t have to worry about temps anymore my fps did boost by far no more stuttering on my games worth trying it.
Xeonerable 3 meses atrás
As a career sysadmin I'm glad to see LTT doing way more videos on datacenter infrastructure and getting tours of them and fabs. Also, lmao at the 4090 being used to compare how "absurdly" giant something is. And obviously size doesn't matter Linus! you guys have like 4 kids.
Dizzeke 3 meses atrás
bro is built for efficiency
TranquilCam 3 meses atrás
@-- Wendell is great but he is not accessible for more entry level tech nerds, his content is for intermediate to expert level nerds. The way he talks, the way he talks about the topics, it’s very clear to those who know our field but to some pc gamer who doesn’t realize their interests can become a career with more digging around, it’s very heavy. LTT has a style of presentation that’s energetic and concise and beginner friendly, people like Wendell and Steve from gamers nexus have a style of far more passion but expectation you know what they’re talking about to a degree. I love them, but I know plenty people who watch LTT but couldn’t grasp l1t or GN. It’s why Linus has so many subscribers compared to other tech channels
-- 3 meses atrás
@TranquilCam definitely not a loser, it's just hard to make exciting content when it comes to servers. The average person simply cares more about FPS in games than pi numbers crunching.
-- 3 meses atrás
@Sugg me too, which is why I'm subscribed to Level1 and STH, however, compare the numbers between them and LTT. There's not enough of us to justify making more server content in LTT.
Miscl 3 meses atrás
@TranquilCam I think the topics are very interesting, they just need to be delivered in an interesting manner. and ltt media has managed to make videos on computing compelling to watch, so I'm sure they can do the same to data center infrastructure
navidhendrix 3 meses atrás
You make this into a music production computer and you wouldn't need another one for about 15 years.
Charles Hines
Charles Hines 2 meses atrás
Linus, if you are building a system with even the older chips, you may find your self buying extra paste. I would get it from a local store and buy a little bit more than I will need just in case. If I have one I did not open I will just return it next time I am out that way. I could return the unopened ones or store them for future use. The only problem with storing it is I don't know when I might use it unless I decide to repaste a laptop or graphics card. I think if I was going to do a graphics card however, I would get that thick white paste that is like a liquid thermal pad or something. It is supposed to be really good stuff for where there are gaps between the memory and heatsink. I am sure I can get the name of the stuff easily with the help of Google or other searches. I may even order some of it too. It is always good to have some paste around, you never know when you will need some.
chnapo1 3 meses atrás
I can´t believe that even after purchasing 15x i3 10105 there are still not even 2/3 of the cores of that CPU in my house!
Henrik Norup Ladefoged
Henrik Norup Ladefoged 3 meses atrás
Watching Linus as always means waiting for him to drop something :)
Nethanieal 2 meses atrás
Looks like AMD basically chained up 4 multicore cpu's together into one , WOW. Makes me want to get back into building pc's again .
ragtop63 3 meses atrás
Back in my ISP/Datacenter days, we had a long standing joke about slow boots. Whenever something took forever to boot, we would say it was doing a SuperMicro. We would joke around and say that the reason why people buy 4 of their servers at a time is because they took so long to boot that there was a risk that another one would fail before the first one finished booting back up. Good to know that things haven't changed much.
Mud Kip
Mud Kip 3 meses atrás
Makes sense. Thanks for the answers. I remember old computers used to take a while to check the memory when booting up. I also wouldn't guess that it would also check the hard drive. Servers usually have a lot of space and memory so I can see that taking a while to check 5tem on boot.
Meh Meh
Meh Meh 3 meses atrás
@Mud Kip Cause the motherboard needs to check absolutely everything. The ram and the hard disks usually take the longest to check.
Israel 3 meses atrás
@Milan Putnik I worked for SoftLayer before IBM bought them for their cloud. We had super micro servers and they actually didn’t take that long to boot up in comparison to AWS servers. When I worked for a AWS manufacturing plant doing diagnostics, those were by far the worst. Lenovo had some shit boot times too. I actually prefer Supermicro boot times over Lenovo and AWS boot times anyday lol. Unless you have one of them 4us with 2/3TB of RAM then forget it.
Milan Putnik
Milan Putnik 3 meses atrás
​@Mud Kip in datacenter we use a special type of RAM memory with the integrated error correction code or ECC. With the introduction of DDR5 the ECC comes to the wide consumer market, the ECC technology is part of the default design of every DDR5 module. Now back to the question you asked - compared to the classic desktop setups based on the CPUs you've mentioned, within the ecosystems using the server grade buffered RAM with ECC we have a lot more stuff going on during boot time (as one might have guessed) - with the primary time consuming one being the so called "memory training". Now, that alone is a whole new topic with a ton of settings in BIOS and it prolly deserves its own chapter on Linus TT or Steve's GamersNexus... Anyway, memory training is a one-time event that's performed by the system on its first boot or subsequently after any significant or otherwise unique change within the particular system, during which the system sets up, tweaks and tests the RAM memory and all its advanced features like the ECC so that it works at its best. That takes time. Of course, in this video Linus showcases the latest CPU by AMD and also explains how there's a bug present in the microcode that causes the long boot times nonetheless and which AMD announced a fix for in the upcoming days hopefully.
Mud Kip
Mud Kip 3 meses atrás
Don't know much about servers but why does it take so long to boot ? Do all SuperMicro servers take a long time to boot ? A little off topic but I fell out of gaming/PC building for a while but my old AMD Athlon X2 system booted much faster than my current Ryzen 7 system (due to UEFI I would guess ?) You would think with faster hardware it wouldn't take so long to boot.
Justin Minnaar
Justin Minnaar 3 meses atrás
I need one of these for my work. My current AMD processor takes 4 hours at maximum processing 100% cpu usage, so this could reduce each run to a few minutes.
aarezgamind 3 meses atrás
Es interesante saber el poder y ruido que hace esa cosa
obZen 3 meses atrás
I’d like to see more applied-real-use cases versus ‘look how many cores this has and how much ram it can support”. Hardware give you ability, but with no use case it’s just a step up from the previous generation.
happysmash27 2 meses atrás
The use case I'm really excited about (whenever I may be able to afford anything like this and especially have adequate power supply) is Blender. I could render things _sooo_ fast on this! And my current 120GB of RAM (yes, 120, not 128; I added 96 to my previous 24) is already pretty utterly fantastic but can still just _slightly_ be limited if I make things large and detailed enough (not enough that I feel much urgency to upgrade to my current motherboard's max supported 192 to be fair; I think I'm more limited by CPU speed at this point, finally). One of these systems could support such an absurd amount of RAM for even larger renders! I bet even rendering an entire Hong-Kong size island with super dense, highly-detailed foliage and NO LODs would hardly have any trouble at all (other than, maybe single-thread performance should geometry nodes remain the same; that's my current bottleneck rendering slightly smaller things today which can take some minutes to set up a render).
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