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Film Theory: This is Disney’s WORST Fear! (Winnie the Pooh) 

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Can you imagine if your favorite, friendly Pooh Bear had a HORROR movie? Well, that is an actual reality now. But it’s NOT from the minds at Disney. So is this even legal? And could other Disney characters get their own horror movies? Oh Bother, we’re in for a good episode today!
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Sinister Studios
Sinister Studios 2 meses atrás
Matpat literally taught me more about public domain, copyright and trademarks, than any of my schools could.
Max Ramos
Max Ramos 2 meses atrás
You never took a business class?
a cute dog
a cute dog 2 meses atrás
@Max Ramos whaaat? unimaginable
jess :D
jess :D 2 meses atrás
Same lol I’ve actually learnt so much from his channels and well nothing from school 😭
Max Ramos
Max Ramos 2 meses atrás
@a cute dog how so did you not even finish high school?
Guy2015
Guy2015 2 meses atrás
Thats your first problem
Cassie
Cassie 2 meses atrás
Gotta give it to Disney - Trademarking literal frames of animation was genius
shark Tenko
shark Tenko Mês atrás
I'm curious if that will hold in court
Task Don
Task Don 12 dias atrás
@shark Tenko Don't think it matters really, the creators will just make a character with two big circle on each side of the head and call it Micky or Mickie.
Thu Ta
Thu Ta 6 dias atrás
@Task Don micky the mousey ;-;
UXW 05
UXW 05 2 meses atrás
I don’t know why, but I absolutely love it when the theorist channels start talking about copyright, trademarks, and the public domain and seeing the lengths companies are willing to go to keep their IPs in their control.
Ninja Artist
Ninja Artist 2 meses atrás
Making learning about boring laws fun is something I appreciate in someone.
Actionfan19
Actionfan19 Mês atrás
This might actually explain why they're doing all these live action remakes. A means to maintain rights to their versions of these characters.
SilverDamascus
SilverDamascus 9 dias atrás
Making a sequel or remake does not extend the copyright to the original, it just creates a situation where the original is in the public domain, but the sequel/remake isn't so imitators can only use characters and elements from the original.
Youtube Employees Are Stupid!
I actually sort of wish that would happen. Disney seems to only care about money nowadays, they haven't been faithful to Walt's dreams for the company and there's no doubt Walt would rather see Disney go out of business, then let it continue to continue going down the way it has been because of greed and poor management and business choices. Disney may have and make a lot of money, made more modern classics like The Lion King, Toy Story, Frozen, Zootopia and etc., but they're just being lazy and greedy acquiring other companies and their IPs and making all those live-action remakes of classic Disney films, which Walt himself surely would've hated and been furious with them for! -NightFang100 Clash10 *Disney has always cared more about money since Walt died. Their greed and politics are going to wreck them hard.*
Jas
Jas 2 meses atrás
I would argue all credit for Toy Story goes to Pixar. Disney acquired Pixar, but there's more behind this. John Lasseter who as far as I know founded Pixar was shooting the idea of using 3D animation while he worked for Disney. Disney executives thought against it and so Lasseter left. He and his associates went to start creating 3D animated shorts which then got Disneys attention. They then wanted Lasseter and his team to create Toy Story. So yeah, screw Disney.
TheDeathmail
TheDeathmail 2 meses atrás
I doubt that Walt would care as much as you think. He was a businessman first and foremost...
UXW 05
UXW 05 2 meses atrás
@TheDeathmail true tho
Psychopath > Youtube Employees
@TheDeathmail - At least he was a SMART businessman, unlike his successors.
Apex Creed
Apex Creed 2 meses atrás
Prasing Walt Disney is awfully weird man
calle jidell
calle jidell 2 meses atrás
To be fair, Reimagining characters without their iconogrophy sounds like a great way to get to the core of a character in creative ways.
Owl of Books
Owl of Books 2 meses atrás
Someone is 100% going to make a horror movie based on all of the Disney characters 😂
G 💋
G 💋 2 meses atrás
id watch it
D.K. T.
D.K. T. 2 meses atrás
To be fair, I would totally watch a "teens trapped in an abandoned house with a guy in a mouse costume killing them off" slasher flick called "House-Of-The-Mouse" or something...
117MasterSpartan
117MasterSpartan 2 meses atrás
They did it’s South Park
Dave Miller *TP*
Dave Miller *TP* 2 meses atrás
Abandoned by Disney movie
TheRunawayWriter
TheRunawayWriter 2 meses atrás
I’m not gonna lie, ‘Bambi: The Reckoning’ made me laugh so hard I had to pause the video in order to collect myself. I had heard there may be a Bambi horror movie, so that in and of itself didn’t shock me. For some reason, the title just caught me by surprise and absolutely sent me
Julia Johnson
Julia Johnson 2 meses atrás
Tbh the original Bambi is pretty dark to begin with, so I wasn’t shocked
chill_ice68
chill_ice68 2 meses atrás
​@Julia Johnson yeh
Saidielivpig -
Saidielivpig - Mês atrás
Literally the snl sketch
Angel Archer
Angel Archer 21 dia atrás
Bambi finally gets revenge
aye
aye 2 meses atrás
Omg i actually need to thank matpat for this. I thought i would be confused asf while he was talking about copyright and trademark laws, but its actually far from it. Seriously, Matt has a strange gift to explain things so well. Thank you for teaching me and keeping me entertained in the process. Peace.
Joanna
Joanna 2 meses atrás
I love how mat manages to stay consistent with all his channels
Super Animation
Super Animation 2 meses atrás
Props to Mat and the team for bringing such engrossing theories
WynneL
WynneL 2 meses atrás
As someone who was nicknamed Winnie the Pooh as a small child (due to my name being somewhat similar), I cannot tell you how weird this is. Even weirder than it is for everyone else.
Janet Street
Janet Street 15 dias atrás
😢
Kung Fu Panda Fanboy
Kung Fu Panda Fanboy 2 meses atrás
disney’s worst fear is the kung fu panda franchise, it’s going to put disney out of business
AlarminglyEnthustiasticMetallhead
I cannot agree more, Disney is going to get crushed by Dreamwork's Kung Fu Panda!
master oogway
master oogway 2 meses atrás
Agreed
Kung Fu Panda Fanboy
Kung Fu Panda Fanboy 2 meses atrás
@master oogway totally
Trixxart
Trixxart 2 meses atrás
Is there another movie coming out I thought the story was over
Come Fast To Get Into My Body
I know Jakeneutron has already covered it all, but I want to see more people talk about Oswald The Lucky Rabbit. Jake currently made a whole new look, with the name Public Ozwald. It isn't a "theory-must" but if anyone on the theory team is reading this, definitely look into it. It's an interesting thing going on right now-
Neville Aster Night
Neville Aster Night 2 meses atrás
I was thinking about Public Ozwald this whole video. And was pissed at Disney and trademark all over again.
kazuha luvr !!
kazuha luvr !! 2 meses atrás
why do you keep doing this- 💀 like no ones cutting you off.
Sokaize
Sokaize 2 meses atrás
​​@kazuha luvr !! Is it the end of the world if they do it?
retro
retro 2 meses atrás
@Sokaize Yes, the world is ending as we speak. Goodbye, fellow theorists.
Oskar Gudaszewski
Oskar Gudaszewski 2 meses atrás
For anonyone who doesn't get it any account named "come fast to get into my body" is a bot
TaLa - Fails
TaLa - Fails 2 meses atrás
ANYTHING is full of legend and even more sinister than ever. Disney's worst nightmare is in the public domain. Thanks to Mat and team for delivering such fascinating theories.
ScarletTempest
ScarletTempest 2 meses atrás
Not sure if this was a theory vid so much as a legal lesson vid but I enjoyed it none the less. Great work as always! 👍
CH3WY Quesadilla
CH3WY Quesadilla 2 meses atrás
Havent been many legit "theories" on the channels. Mostly informational. Still entertaining
Noah McCabe
Noah McCabe 2 meses atrás
As soon as a bunch of the more modern depictions of characters are out, I can’t wait for the creepypasta horror movies to be made. It may be somewhat cheesy, but Abandoned by Disney would be an entertaining horror movie.
Victoria Lynn Struble
Victoria Lynn Struble 2 meses atrás
I had absolutely no idea this movie existed and I am excited to Watch it honestly this whole project that they have sounds phenomenally
Pop Culture Data
Pop Culture Data 2 meses atrás
A horror movie with Mickey Mouse would be quite unique
UnimportantHero
UnimportantHero 2 meses atrás
Eh, the mouse is trademarked, so Mickey will never really go into the public domain. The copyright on his steamboat willy design is entering the public domain but that is all. The character overall is trademarked and trademarks last forever so long as a company maintains them, and a horror movie would likely get challenged right off the bat since the *character* will always be Disney's.
raphaela ratzlaff
raphaela ratzlaff 2 meses atrás
Oh maybe we can get abandoned by Disney.
untitled
untitled 2 meses atrás
Nope remember the trade mark.
Aaron Lane
Aaron Lane 2 meses atrás
Willy’s Steamboat Slaughterhouse
Haz Bat
Haz Bat 2 meses atrás
This is way off topic, but I'd love to see a theory on Osmosis Jones, and what kind of real world virus that Thrax could be representing. I think the movie is kind of hinting at Thrax being scarlet fever, given that Frank's symptoms start with a sore throat, the other germs are calling him, "muerte rojo" or Red Death, and he seems to be humming Peggy Lee's "Fever" in one scene. The problem with that theory being that he's referred to as a virus, and scarlet fever is a bacteria. So what virus looks like the common cold, and attacks DNA like Thrax does in the movie? Help! The internet needs Dr. Matpat, M.D.
MrSailing101
MrSailing101 2 meses atrás
Pretty sure they did more than imply, I learned about scarlet fever from that movie.
Blessie Masancay
Blessie Masancay 2 meses atrás
This made me think about that one Mickey Mouse "cameo" in the game No Bodies: After Dark. They made an in-game joke about not having the rights to the character at all while "Morkey the Rodent" is clearly the Steamboat Willie version of Mickey.
Mary Joy Gelizon
Mary Joy Gelizon Mês atrás
Played the first game didnt know there was a second thx for this gonna go download it now
Amanda Rom
Amanda Rom 2 meses atrás
Awesome video guys! Copyright it such a complicated thing and its nice to have an amazing team putting these issues at the front! I just wanted to say that Adam Ruins Everything actual had an episode about the last time Mickey Mouse and the Grimm Fairy tails were almost put into the public domain. I believe it was in 2019.
MACandcheese
MACandcheese 2 meses atrás
Finding out the Mickey mouse would ever hit public domain at any point in time is traumatizing on its own 😭
M Ahmed Saad
M Ahmed Saad 2 meses atrás
I feel like a whole new horror movie series would be made about Disney Characters by the same company.
Gothimaya
Gothimaya 2 meses atrás
Love how Disney would rather these extreme interpretations exist than multiple loving creators who want to add to the current iterations.
Misspoken
Misspoken 2 meses atrás
i think video game developers need to keep an eye out on these domains opening up. being able to make collabs without the years of communicating towards how the collaboration works out could be really good for some games.
GodoatTheGoat
GodoatTheGoat 2 meses atrás
I think some good works could come out of this. Imagine a Winnie the Pooh or Mickey Mouse movie where instead of a edgy horror bloodbath there are more adult and deep themes that Disney isn't brave enough to depict. Something like Del Toro's Pinocchio but with disney characters. The fact that they necessarily have to distance themselves from the modern depictions of these characters to avoid copyright could ironically become an advantage instead of a limitation.
Jacob Keefe
Jacob Keefe 4 dias atrás
Grimm's tales, e.g.
kamikaze khan
kamikaze khan 2 meses atrás
If Disney ever needs a new Mickey voice they can look no further
Draconic lorecraft
Draconic lorecraft 2 meses atrás
Honestly, as a new creator, this terrifies me, as I have a serious trigger and paranoia about people taking my dedicated work and creations, and the fact I can lose all of it and it be possibly warped is truly horrifying
ttmfndng
ttmfndng 2 meses atrás
Copyright now lasts for 70 years after your death, so there's really no need to worry lol What's more horrifying is how a corporation can keep the rights for a character for such a long time
Kaitou1412Fangirl
Kaitou1412Fangirl Mês atrás
Like the comment above said, you'll be long dead at that point, and even if you're worried about someone Velma-izing your work, most original fans are probably going to hate it with a burning passion. Just ask any veteran fans from Star Wars to Final Fantasy about newer series entries. I, as another creator, am personally more worried about some schmuck finding my unpublished stuff and cutting ahead to publish it first. I spent the better part of my life on that stuff, and I would die if it was taken from me. But maybe that's my paranoia talking.
Draconic lorecraft
Draconic lorecraft Mês atrás
@Kaitou1412Fangirl Idk, kinda same with me in that last part.
Striding Wombat
Striding Wombat 5 dias atrás
Ownership shouldn't exist. Your work should not be your own. Don't like others interperetations? Too bad.
beleq
beleq 2 meses atrás
from chuck e cheese to winnie the pooh, this man can make ANYTHING full of lore and even eviller than it should ever be. thanks mat.
Jack Wrath
Jack Wrath 2 meses atrás
*Here is the full clip that explains : How to breathe oxygen (WORKING)* brvid.net/video/video-CVQ_qhyodP4.html
beleq
beleq 2 meses atrás
@Jack Wrath wow youre def not a bot
campcopake
campcopake 2 meses atrás
*knock knock* Grinch: You forgot me
Battleray
Battleray 2 meses atrás
Yeah
TheLadySirenia
TheLadySirenia 2 meses atrás
Sure there's a lot of restrictions but I can't wait for people to go crazy on this stuff. They always surprise me how far they're willing to go and I love it.
LostMoonRaider
LostMoonRaider 2 meses atrás
While I definitely agree with you, this is still generally untested in the courts. From what I have seen there are copyright experts who are skeptical to say the least about the ideas of using trademark to restrict the access to public domain works. Even if Disney’s interpretation ends up being future precedent , there are still thousands of works entering the public domain every year.
StaticTre
StaticTre 2 meses atrás
A perfect example of this is Jake Neutron working his way around and creating Ozwald (a version of Oswald The Lucky Rabbit) I highly recommend watching the video on his channel about it
yes homo
yes homo 2 meses atrás
Disney sued and threatened a childrens hospital for having a peter pan themed room/playcenter to help the kids cheer up and socialize even though they were using it based on public domain and werent even using the disney characters. Its nice seeing someone use the public domain to scare disney like this
gamingtv
gamingtv 2 meses atrás
Disney is too harsh
ℳ𝒶ℯ𝓂𝒶ℯ
ℳ𝒶ℯ𝓂𝒶ℯ 2 meses atrás
I think, A) that they DONT have to ask because it’s kids. Sick kids what kind of b#### takes away fun from kids? B) who cares? Like I’ve said before ITS SICK KIDS C) Disney has better things to do like making a new movie
Jack Theflash
Jack Theflash Mês atrás
@ℳ𝒶ℯ𝓂𝒶ℯ the people who make the movies don’t deal with copyright
whatifanimemovies
whatifanimemovies Mês atrás
@ℳ𝒶ℯ𝓂𝒶ℯ even tho now the movies are quite how do i say this
BlackJack Lover99
BlackJack Lover99 2 meses atrás
I actually like all this. It really forces you to make public domain characters more of your own thing.
teamboobooseth1
teamboobooseth1 2 meses atrás
It’s funny that I can understand both sides. I get wanting it to be fair for everyone, being able to use characters and the like. But at the same time, I understand that creators and their companies don’t want their characters to be butchered.
Phantomjay09
Phantomjay09 2 meses atrás
Though the actual creator of any character is sure to be dead by the time the copyright expires, no matter what copyright it has.
Aaron Sproule
Aaron Sproule 2 meses atrás
Interestingly enough, last year I started volunteering online by narrating public domain works to be turned into audio books for fair use and was considering narrating the original Winnie the pooh.
Olympian Nerd
Olympian Nerd 2 meses atrás
As crazy of a legal minefield this is I'm still excited to see how new creative people will interpret these characters yeah some if not most will probably be bad but I'm sure there will be some gems in the rough
Rewind OG
Rewind OG 20 dias atrás
I love how matpat & team have made these videos impossible for Disney to copyright claim unless they want to make it canon that their mascot is a deranged evil kidnapping serial killer.
Olthar
Olthar 2 meses atrás
I've noticed the addition of the Steamboat Willie animation into the Disney logo, but I always thought it was just a fun reference and callback to the origins of the company, a way to honor their heritage. I never realized that it was a skeezy way to dodge copyright law. That kinda makes me feel bad.
Ladyspiderwick
Ladyspiderwick 2 meses atrás
It's rather smart if you think about it, nobody would recognise it unless they'd seen the original steamboat willie animation
Mikayla Eckel Cifrese
Mikayla Eckel Cifrese 2 meses atrás
Honestly, it seems kind of dumb to me. Like, seriously, _who cares_ if people can use a centuries old version of Mickey that most people aren't even familiar with? Like, they can't seriously be making a noticeable amount of money off of content that old, and the current version, which is _very_ different, will still be protected by copyright. So I really don't get why they even care that much.
Olthar
Olthar 2 meses atrás
@Mikayla Eckel Cifrese Because we're living in end stage capitalism. It's not just about winning; it's about crushing everyone else. Not only does Disney want to bleed the consumer base for every penny they can, they also want to make sure that no one else can earn a single thing. Yes, letting Steamboat Willie go would have a negligible impact on their year-end profits, but they didn't rise to the top of the industry by being nice.
DarthDogeYT
DarthDogeYT 2 meses atrás
@Olthar end stage? elaborate
Latexu95
Latexu95 2 meses atrás
2:37 After Mickey has entered the public domain, his place for the new Disney mascot will likely go to either Jiminy Cricket or Tinker Bell, since they have been represented very clearly in past Disney marketing and logos. The modern Disney logo even features references to both of them: two bright stars next to each other, akin to the line "second star to the right and straight on till morning" from Peter Pan, and the melody from Pinocchio's "When You Wish Upon A Star". There's also Casey Jr., the circus train from Dumbo, but that's beside the point.🦗🧚‍♀️🌟
The ABacross
The ABacross 2 meses atrás
Didnt realize the characters of Winnie the Pooh were under public Domain, theirs so many old horror movies that are under it like Night Of The Living Dead, Nosferatu, and almost any Silent horror movie
thefool309
thefool309 2 meses atrás
I've literally been saying this for years and mattpat put it in a much more cohesive argument. Thank you mattpat, we love you
Taylor Bohman
Taylor Bohman 2 meses atrás
Don’t know who else has seen it but I feel like Liminal Land is something that I would love to see a video about
Cassandra Mathis
Cassandra Mathis 2 meses atrás
Ok, we NEED a stop motion animated adaptation of the original Winnie the pooh
Schoo
Schoo 2 meses atrás
That would actually be beautiful
markotnanatkapietruszki
They did Moomins a while ago and it was amazing, check it out if you like them :)
Wumpus
Wumpus 2 meses atrás
Now all of a sudden, Winnie the Pooh becoming public domain doesn’t seem so bad.
I Scheele
I Scheele 2 meses atrás
There's a soviet animated Winnie the Pooh... It's a refreshing take on the old bear, feels just like a storybook.
darththespian
darththespian 2 meses atrás
I wanna do it now that sounds so cool
Youtube Employees Are Stupid!
Same. These works and characters entering the public domain is good for creativity and inspiration and that helps new generations of artists and creators create new and original works, not just the original companies and estates, who's creators died long ago! -NightFang100 Clash10 *Obviously, horror Winnie the Pooh, shows the Devil's Advocate of the public domain, but in the end, public domain has more positive than negative.*
Phantomjay09
Phantomjay09 2 meses atrás
I'm not really sure about it, but hey, it's worked for the scp franchise, so maybe it'll be good.
Psychopath > Youtube Employees
@Phantomjay09 - What are you talking about?
Phantomjay09
Phantomjay09 2 meses atrás
@Psychopath > BRvid Employees the scp franchise operates on a special type of copyright. The way I understand it, anyone can use or add to the lore of the universe, but no one can copyright it for themselves.
Xavier
Xavier 2 meses atrás
Peter Pan has a huge potential as an horror movie if you know the true story
msk
msk Mês atrás
YES!!!!
Cherie Kinnee
Cherie Kinnee 6 dias atrás
The hook and the crocodile scene-
Latexu95
Latexu95 2 meses atrás
16:26 That was also at the same time period when Disney stopped making traditionally animated "2D" theatrical films, and started to embrace more reliable and experimental computer animation, akin to their long-time colleague, Pixar. In fact, the last two "cel-animated" feature films that came after that were The Princess and the Frog in 2009, and Winnie the Pooh in 2011. After that, the mainstream 2D animation by Disney has been strictly limited to television shows, like Phineas & Ferb, Gravity Falls, The Owl House etc. And even these excellent shows are not animated with any of the traditional tools or methods, because they are deemed "too expensive and time consuming", and are instead made with more modern digital tools. One exception to this standard is the game Cuphead (and its DLC), where practically ALL the character animations were first drawn on paper with a pen, and then scanned into computer for coloring. The Cuphead Show on Netflix, however, was animated entirely digitally, but it was made to resemble old-timey elastic animation, so the difference is little harder to tell.😉
Motley Grant
Motley Grant 2 meses atrás
it is nice that copyright law is explained in such an easy to understand way. thank you for this.
John Munoz-Crabb
John Munoz-Crabb Mês atrás
This reminds me of Hasbro's relationship with the word 'transform'. You'll notice in most of the recent toy packaging and instructions, they advertise that the figure "converts in X number of steps" because if they overuse the word 'transform' it will become generic and allow other companies to sell 'transformers' toys instead if 'transforming robot toys'
A
A 2 meses atrás
Ok now I'm officially convinced he can turn anything into a theory.
МеаtСаnуоn 🅥
МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 2 meses atrás
I have been waiting so long for this : brvid.net/video/video-0fyTPb-l-Ek.html
G A
G A 2 meses atrás
Ikr
Zuzi Zui
Zuzi Zui 2 meses atrás
dude there are links everywhere
Blue screen of memes
Blue screen of memes 2 meses atrás
He’s turned clothes into theory’s I bet he can turn doors into theory’s as well
Blue screen of memes
Blue screen of memes 2 meses atrás
And maybe he can turn chairs into theorys
Anayah Ahmed
Anayah Ahmed 2 meses atrás
I started watching this guy’s channel just six months ago and finished watching all the videos on film AND game theory and am working on style and food theory
Rayla_Went_M@d
Rayla_Went_M@d 2 meses atrás
hey, Quick idea for a film theory. You guys should do a video on the owl house. The last episode comes out in two weeks and it would be nice for the show to get some recognition from you guys since it's ending way too soon. No pressure if you have seen this but it would still be nice.
•alovelygaycat•
•alovelygaycat• 2 meses atrás
YES!!!
DMAG
DMAG Mês atrás
I love the Kingdom Hearts references in this video. Great job MattPat, never thought you could do that! Combined two of my favorite worlds 🥹🥹
Lovely_JordenP0PS
Lovely_JordenP0PS 2 meses atrás
Ok. I was literally a mentally unstable child then found you and your channels then just fell in love. You have been there for me and you still make amazing videos! ❤️
Eclipse Ruin
Eclipse Ruin Mês atrás
I've been binge watching every theory channel ever since I stopped 3 months ago due to exams. I'm watching in the toilet and anywhere possible you can imagine. I'm loving this
Emperor Shadow
Emperor Shadow 2 meses atrás
This theory was legit scarier than the actual movie
RJM Stunts
RJM Stunts 2 meses atrás
I love it when you guys do horror movies
dbzmaster1213
dbzmaster1213 20 dias atrás
Might not be bad for some properties where the people in charge clearly won't listen to fan feedback or desire. Fan-based versions of our favorite characters that do them more justice than the original could also be a thing.
CarolinaReapers
CarolinaReapers 2 meses atrás
Not gonna lie, I kinda wanna see MatPat do a Film Theory on Battle For BFDI.
opalander
opalander 2 meses atrás
By next year, I fully expect someone to make a horror movie about Steamboat Willy
Frost The Hobidon
Frost The Hobidon 2 meses atrás
Not Only the Original Mickey will be in the Public Domain, people forget about the original Minnie and Pete will also too.
Scourge Of Man
Scourge Of Man 2 meses atrás
So Mini will be the one to go on a killing spree after the decapitation of her beloved Mickey by a giant mouse trap! We'll call it: Mini The Mouse, Cheese and Whine 😭
Pacbandit13
Pacbandit13 2 meses atrás
​@Scourge Of Man your thinking too small 50 shades of mini soon come
Slartibartfast
Slartibartfast 2 meses atrás
@Pacbandit13 Nah, Nah, 50 Shades of Pete with Pete and Minnie in the starring roles.
LooneyLunatic
LooneyLunatic 2 meses atrás
Who's Pete?
Sonicfanboy3
Sonicfanboy3 2 meses atrás
​@LooneyLunatic That's Mickey's arch nemesis he's the captain of the ship in Steamboat Willie
Fraya Milldrige
Fraya Milldrige 2 meses atrás
Can you do a line of theory’s about the Studio Ghibli movies? Also a time line? The movies are beautifully made, they also seem to be connected in one or two universes just at different times
*k e i g o -!
*k e i g o -! 2 meses atrás
Matpat is the only person who can convince me I’m a crayon and I’d believe it wholeheartedly.
Abbie Plate
Abbie Plate 2 meses atrás
Hi #TeamTheorists, I was just watching Hotel Transylvania 2 and I got curious upon seeing a scene that happened in the film. In the scene, Dracula tried to teach his grandson, Dennis, how to fly by throwing him off a tall building, this got my wondering just how tall was the building in the first place and would Dennis actually manage to not hit the ground in all the time Drac waited before going to save him? After all, gravity pulls acts very fast over a short period of time, so wouldn't Dennis end up getting killed from this? I know this is a kids film, but then again, this is what Theorists do so what do you guys think?
stef5853
stef5853 2 meses atrás
The Peter Pan horror... yeah that one already exists in literary form. The book is called Lost Boy. And while it may not appear as a horror (and I would agree that it can be discussed whether it's horror or not) but once you start to think about it as a backstory, it becomes a bit chilling.
NintendoFan09
NintendoFan09 2 meses atrás
Link
thegoldenfox951
thegoldenfox951 2 meses atrás
@NintendoFan09 its a book you cant get a link
Lopez, Roilan S.
Lopez, Roilan S. 2 meses atrás
I mean the original Peter pan is already horror enough (kidnaps children, kills lost boys who grow up, etc.)
Crow305
Crow305 2 meses atrás
​@thegoldenfox951 it's like those Facebook things where kids are looking at a newspaper like "why won't the buttons work"
thegoldenfox951
thegoldenfox951 2 meses atrás
@Lopez, Roilan S. they did the peter pan story well in the tv show once upon a time
Kamilian
Kamilian 2 meses atrás
Really enjoyed this theory and learned a lot!
Your Local Asian
Your Local Asian 2 meses atrás
Every film theory I watch gives me a few more brain cells😂
GreenxLady
GreenxLady 2 meses atrás
And that's why I love Germany: Trademark protection can expire if the brand becomes synonymous with a whole genre of products, also known as Deonyms. For example, there used to be a brand of paper tissues called Tempo (it still exists), but because everybody started using their brand name for every kind of paper tissue they had a hard time prolonging the trademark
videogame fanatic Lord KH
I'll never understand Disney's fear of Mickey mouse entering the public domain. At some point he has to become public domain
BiggestPhangirl
BiggestPhangirl Mês atrás
If you want to distinguish Mickey, just take the buttons off his pants, or put four buttons instead of two. Make the tips of his shoes flatter or pointier or whatever. They never change Mickey’s clothes so if you mix up the clothes it isn’t Disney’s Mickey anymore. Their Mickey only ever has the single outfit. Or just stick to fanfics and fan art and upload them to FanFiction or DeviantArt.
*👁️⁕Ace's_BlindMind⁕ ‿⁎
I like the idea of the original winnie just walking in the public domain, only to stumble into this movie by accident after taking a shady path, and accidentally meet the slasher. "Oh bother, do you need help cleaning off that jam?"
Starsia Draws
Starsia Draws 2 meses atrás
Is your profile picture... traumacore?
Sorain1
Sorain1 2 meses atrás
You know Proxima, honestly? It'd be neat if the monster just responded by politely appreciating it and sending the original on his way.
*👁️⁕Ace's_BlindMind⁕ ‿⁎
@Starsia Draws Nah, They're literally just blind. I don't really have trauma. Okay that was a lie, but still :)
Corey Laplant
Corey Laplant 2 meses atrás
The point isn't to make money or be a good movie it's to set a movement in motion.
JJ
JJ 2 meses atrás
I know there’s copyright complications with Peter Pan in the UK. It impacted Willingham’s ability to use the characters in his Fables series
Jesus Ramirez Romo
Jesus Ramirez Romo 2 meses atrás
Also with Sherlock Holmes
Jetstar Studios
Jetstar Studios 24 dias atrás
I know he was joking about “Copyright Theory” but fr this is stuff I need to know as a creator, please make more of this!
Culinary Physics
Culinary Physics 2 meses atrás
I never thought about Winnie the Pooh in that way before. This theory is really interesting and well thought out.
OR56
OR56 Mês atrás
12:01 There is no way Disney can copyright Darth Vader breathing. It is literally just SCUBA gear noises.
Phoenix Valentina
Phoenix Valentina 2 meses atrás
People have always been doing horror things with beloved characters. Worst fear for companies is when it becomes legal and can go on the big screen: public domain
E E
E E 2 meses atrás
We need a Winnie The Pooh where he integrates into modern society and decided to become a BRvidr that only takes Honey sponsorships.
Oran Phillips
Oran Phillips 2 meses atrás
This has taught me that to do anything that's been copyrighted/trademarked you need to be the equivalent of a legal gymnast
Sapphire Reacts
Sapphire Reacts 20 dias atrás
disney may be sleazy but if i was a big corp like disney, honestly i would do the same thing. winne the pooh horror film is a perfect example, it clearly disturbed a lot of ppl that some lthing as innocent gets twisted. i wouldnt want to see my hardwork turned into something like this
Scooter Campbell
Scooter Campbell 2 meses atrás
I look forward to someone like the EFF challenging Disney over the attempts to trademark Steamboat's Mickey. While the company can absolutely (and probably should) protect their branding and explicit logos, trademark isn't a replacement for copyright and they can't use it to try and copyright the public domain. If they start doing really underhanded things, they will be challenged and they will lose. Disney and every other company need to start picking their battles, because every year that passes means more and more control is taken away.
Johan Stenfelt
Johan Stenfelt Mês atrás
Hm, I see, how very interesting, these next years are going to be very interesting, I hope we’ll get to see something great from this, regardless of the Copyright and Trademarks, ‘cause I have learned that there are a lot curative people out there and I would be very fascinated to see if they will shine through.
ChrisP
ChrisP 2 meses atrás
Matt actually had such a good opportunity to use the the Fine bros “react” copyright attempt to help explain why you can’t copyright ideas like “theory” 😂
Mr indie fan
Mr indie fan 2 meses atrás
Trademark* you said the wrong term.
Adam Livesay
Adam Livesay 2 meses atrás
I wonder if Legal Eagal will be doing a video on the matter. Seems like something the public auto to know, especially since corporations are apparently favored far harder than individual people for how long the protections last.
rmhartman
rmhartman 2 meses atrás
Mickey has actually been in the public domain for a while. The second Mickey film -- Plane Crazy -- failed to be renewed once upon a time.
Pralay Bhaumik
Pralay Bhaumik 2 meses atrás
Hey, MatPat! I had a burning question for you. Why have you stopped including the intro montage in your recent videos? I immensely enjoyed the intros of all the three channels, as they set me in the mood for a theory. It would be quite nice, if the intros could be brought back?
Cube
Cube 2 meses atrás
To be fair, I don't mind a company owning their completely original characters until the end of that company's lifetime. Like, characters from fairy tales and books and whatever else? Sure, make them lose it, but the mouse and the crew? Let 'em keep those.
David Allen
David Allen 25 dias atrás
This is going in my favorites folder. Maybe I'm catastrophizing, but the main thing that I want out of copyright law and things like that is as follows: *I don't want companies' risk aversion to cross with copyright law in a way that stifles interesting uses of worlds, characters, and stories.* I know that people can make deals. I just wish that the power dynamic didn't favor the owners as much as it does - to the point that the offerers are basically making job applications as opposed to a new story. I probably didn't word this well, all things considered, and I did make this heat-of-the-moment. Nonetheless, I am glad I watched this video.
Heather White
Heather White 2 meses atrás
Been a while since we’ve heard the Mickey Mouse voice over here. Still just as good as always :)
МеаtСаnуоn 🅥
МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 2 meses atrás
*Here is the full clip explaining why dad left you: (Making fun of bots)* brvid.net/video/video-0fyTPb-l-Ek.html
Jack Wrath
Jack Wrath 2 meses atrás
*Here is the full clip that explains : How to breathe oxygen (WORKING)* brvid.net/video/video-CVQ_qhyodP4.html
All Might
All Might 2 meses atrás
Beap Boop I am Bot
chribdtophr200
chribdtophr200 2 meses atrás
i am a bot also
Sergio Leonardo Cornejo
Has that peculiarly malevolent aura to it. Just like the company who created him. Walter probably looks from the spirit realm with frustration ever since at least the 80s.
Youtube Employees Are Stupid!
Can't wait for that Mickey Mouse+Superman tag team in 10 years!
No Name Passerby A
No Name Passerby A 2 meses atrás
Simple and Clean is the way Kingdom Heart 7 plot will be in the future
David Agudosi
David Agudosi 2 meses atrás
Disney couldn't deal with the threat of Steam boat Willie entering public domain, so they did the Ultimate Galaxy Brain move and turned him into a brand
JACOB OSWALD
JACOB OSWALD Mês atrás
I have a question. With the old Mickey mouse sailing going to the public, could movies that started with him be worth more money then the sale value? And if they continue making those movies, will they have to get rid of the mouse?
BiblioRook
BiblioRook 2 meses atrás
Doesn't surprise me that Peter Pan is one of the ones next up to become a horror movie, depending on how you look at the original work it practically is close to being one already and probably would require surprisingly little adjustment to become full-on horror. Peter Pan just as an individual is just creepy.
FICUSULXD189
FICUSULXD189 2 meses atrás
Yeah now that if it's done right (which I doubt) can be an actual ok/good movie!
Christopher Gonzalez
Christopher Gonzalez 2 meses atrás
That TV show when they did with the fantasy characters, they made Peter Pan as a joker like antagonist. It was brilliant
Rockstarsdreamgirl
Rockstarsdreamgirl 2 meses atrás
8:03 - a great example of this is the wizard of oz… while the film itself is not in the public domain, the book is
Anonymous  🏳️‍🌈⃠ㅤㅤㅤ
This explains so much how Brightburn became a “Superman” villain origin story and they still were able to make it without problems. It wasn’t the best movie but at least I know how they were able to make it. Thank you Film Theory! Learning a new thing every week!
Hua Jin Ly
Hua Jin Ly 2 meses atrás
Could we get a Video on "The Menu"? I would love to see MatPat dissect the psychology of Julian Slowik or the meaning behind the ending.
Darrianne Spires
Darrianne Spires 2 meses atrás
I feel like the Public Domain parts were foreshadowed in SheHulk when there were a bunch of legal battles about trademarking words themselves
Reuben Oakley
Reuben Oakley 2 meses atrás
9:40 I don't think the powers of a public domain Superman would be limited to the ones he had when originally published, since the powers themselves can't be copyrighted. However, you would be limited to his original costume, and things like Kryptonite and Lex Luthor would be out of bounds for a while as well
SunshineMeadows
SunshineMeadows 2 meses atrás
usually all this legal jargon doesn't hold my attention but wow, i didn't realize copyright and trademark laws were so blooming specific. thanks for presenting it all in an interesting way, matpat. i have a feeling this video is going to be pretty handy for a lot of people over the next few years.
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