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Elden Ring's Demigods ► Explained!

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Mark Morales
Mark Morales Mês atrás
After playing for over 100 hours I got some of the lore. Most of it is pretty hard to find like the other souls games. But there was one piece of lore I was able to figure out all on my own. Malenia is the blade of Miquella.
Mac Militant
Mac Militant 3 dias atrás
Everytime someone says the lore is hard to find, all that means it you didnt read item descriptions. Most if not all of the lore is in your inventory
M B
M B 7 dias atrás
Now that's what I call a joke! Dude, that was so well structured. The payoff was so good and came out of nowhere! Everyone, take notes. This is brilliant lmao
Hugh Jass
Hugh Jass 10 dias atrás
@Pace What the hell are you doing for so long? I full cleared the map in 150 and that was including many hours being afk.
Jimbobway
Jimbobway 15 dias atrás
"...one piece..."😳
EET FUK
EET FUK 15 dias atrás
huh? she never said that to me, never heard her talking to me as well. it's like Carl Froch never mentioned he knocked George Groves in front of 80,000 fans in Wembley Stadium.
Andy B
Andy B Mês atrás
Rykard coming in with, "TOGETHAAA!" at the beginning of the Malenia section really made my day hahaha
Minh Tú
Minh Tú 3 dias atrás
ikr, that some brilliant edit right there, got me twice lol
Zugzug Zugzugson
Zugzug Zugzugson 4 dias atrás
WE WILL DEVOUR THE VERY GODugh.
B Dawg
B Dawg 25 dias atrás
@SunRedux yes!! Love how he snuck that in lol
sonny wilson
sonny wilson Mês atrás
subtitles say fuck off rykard lol im dead
SunRedux
SunRedux Mês atrás
18:13 you hear a faint TOGETHAAAA in the background as well!
Jim Realnamington
Jim Realnamington Mês atrás
It seems like Radhan's story is kinda based around stalemate. Not just with Malenia, but he had a torn alliance between his own family and what he admired. As Radagon's son, and someone that idolized Godrick, he would be aligned with the golden order. But as Rennala's son, and brother to Ranni (seemingly on good terms) he would be aligned to the Carian loyal line. He may have known that Ranni's fate would result in either the destruction of the Golden order or his family. So, instead, he chose to lock them in stalemate by holding back the stars, and ensuring the survival of both.
Near Darkroad
Near Darkroad 6 dias atrás
@RoninRonnie tbh, the horse is pretty much better to die than continue to being his horse. Like dude, Radahn, just find other horse. Oh right, you idolize Godfrey, the man who break the neck of his own lion for...what exactly?
Near Darkroad
Near Darkroad 6 dias atrás
@Victor Leta you are correct but most players seem to idolize Radahn too much like he didn't do anything wrong.
Near Darkroad
Near Darkroad 6 dias atrás
He want to save both part of his families but by doing what he did, he eventually end up destroying both of his families. By not fully committed on killing Malenia, the war end up with no victor, with all sides suffered lost and no one take responsibility to restore order to the Land Between. By stopping the stars, he stand in the way of Ranni's plan to break free from the curse of Empyrean and removing outer gods control on Land Between. In rude remarks, dude is half assed about his end goals and the only things he achieved are being able to continue ride his horse thanks to his gravity magic, become a strong warrior like his dad and step dad and die a warrior death.
Great Teacher
Great Teacher 6 dias atrás
@Straight White Male That's the dynamic of a lot of family with mixed children. Siblings tend to favor full siblings than half or step siblings especially if they grew up together.
RoninRonnie
RoninRonnie 17 dias atrás
This is an excellent theory! That would explain why he would be interested in halting the stars, because he did not want to loose one or the other. Because i always found the explanation that he just wanted to ride his horse kind of stupid…the horse does not look like he cares about it that much…and that would not explain why he wanted to challenge the stars. Very very interesting thought! Thank you very much for sharing.
Santiago
Santiago Mês atrás
I really would like it to Rykard to have an ending of his own. I genuinely wanted to devour the gods together with him :(
Near Darkroad
Near Darkroad 3 dias atrás
@Max T Then, they should made us devour him so we can devour the very gods TOGETHAAAA and give me Tanith too, I heard she was a quite dancer.
Max T
Max T 3 dias atrás
@Near Darkroad pretty sure it's because like with rykard, the serpent devours people to "become one" or something like that. So he has to eat you if you want to devour the gods TOGETHAAAAAA
ZenZ
ZenZ 4 dias atrás
TOGETHAAAAAAA
Near Darkroad
Near Darkroad 6 dias atrás
I know, right? Like, Rykard, my man, I willing to join you but you need to stop attacking me. How I'm supposed to join the serpent king famileeeee if you keep bonking and cooking me?
I am malenia, blade of miquella
And after the Black screen the credits roll, there would be an iconic, bioware Sex scene TOGETHAAAAA with him.
Rootz Party
Rootz Party Mês atrás
Sudden thought: cursed children have horns when they are born. It's entirely possible that mothers of such children may not survive the birthing process, or at least not as often. So the Omen may also have the association of death of the mothers.
Xxx_Jim_the_Reaper_xxX
Xxx_Jim_the_Reaper_xxX 13 dias atrás
@JD pitmint Yes
JD pitmint
JD pitmint 13 dias atrás
@Xxx_Jim_the_Reaper_xxX she literally shattered the most powerful object in the world and the question of "but baby was spiky how she survive that" stumps you
Ajehy
Ajehy 15 dias atrás
That would absolutely make childbirth nightmarishly dangerous. Even reading this comment made me wince. It may also be a reference to the game ICO. In ICO, horned children are considered bad luck, so your character (who looks about 8) is buried alive at a haunted castle as a sacrifice.
Xxx_Jim_the_Reaper_xxX
Xxx_Jim_the_Reaper_xxX 24 dias atrás
@Painted Collection Agreed.
Matt J
Matt J Mês atrás
Godwyn: "Violence is not the answer!" Horah Loux: "He's right. Violence is the question. The answer is YES!"
djamba TV
djamba TV 14 dias atrás
Horah Loux: "thats why morgott is my favorite"
Bastardog
Bastardog Mês atrás
HOARAH LOUX!!!!WOAAAARIOOAAAAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WeirdyBeardy Stuff
WeirdyBeardy Stuff Mês atrás
@Matt J I cackled quite wildly. Thanks lol
Matt J
Matt J Mês atrás
@Jesus Saves! If Miyazaki wrote Jesus, he'd have a sister that manifests as a tentacle on his back that tells him to do bad things.
Medellinin
Medellinin Mês atrás
@UNDERGNOMES more like a good 25 lol
Harlburger Helper
Harlburger Helper Mês atrás
I have theory that Radahn might've conquered the stars to keep Ranni from betraying the Golden Order and leaving, might've done it out of love for his sister as well as duty to the Golden Order
sultan788
sultan788 15 dias atrás
@Harlburger Helper The Golden Order is an odd one, as in Morgott's scene we see all the seats empty as the family have all been disbanded, pursuing their own journey. Though, that's something Marika wants as according to Melina, Marika said "Here are these great runes. Make of yourself whatever you desire, a lord or god, whatever. But if you become nothing, you will be forsaken, amounting only to sacrifice". So i'd definitely say each of their intent in plans isn't directly attacking another, just unfortunate coincidence. Through Ranni's ending we learn she hates the idea of how such a divine being or God can be so close in physical reach. Look what it's caused. Multiple Gods in search of selfish, individual powers and ideals (herself included), multiple Elden Lords and anybody can be Elden Lord, rules broken and bended. The initial purpose of the "Elden Ring" has now been lost through time, it's imperfect now and has no reason to continue existing in her eyes, hence her command of the Black Knives to start the chain of death against Godwyn, the first of the fallen Demi-Gods. Now she wants a new God, this Dark Moon/Star God, something unreachable and too distant for everyone. But since Radahn conquered the stars, he's just unfortunately getting in her way, though i'm sure they still love each other. Radahn learned star powers from a star lord, to stop the stars. That seems really confusing on surface level, why would the star lord teach that to someone? To essentially say "my own people are terrible, do not let them come here. I'm not powerful enough to use this star power but I can teach it" which a Demi-God would be more than capable of using. We don't know much of Radahn, not a single dialogue from him. But we know he's honorable (waits for Malenia prosthetic attachment before attacking), highly respected across Land Between and regarded as the strongest Demi-God. He looks up to his father (red hair), Godfrey (armour) and his mother (magic), and uses that magic to also protect his dear horse. He even fought Malenia in the same location we fight Radahn, he was seemingly defensive. It seems his actions are protective. Since there's seemingly little mention of connections between Ranni and Radahn, it's unlikely he would know of Ranni's plans or her pursuit of space God specifically, he just knew what dangers are out there and decided to protect the lands. But since his inspirations are from both Moon and Golden Order, it's hard to say which he's fighting for, it's more suggested it's his own thing, just like how Maleina has her own army too of Cleanrot Knights, not affiliated with their parents or known God. Though i'm sure he knew Renalla didn't like Radahns plans either as her powers are linked to the moon and stars too, but again, he's more likely to be fighting for a greater cause that most characters are unaware of Edit: disbanded family meaning they all left the Greater Will (the Erdtree a.k.a current God), hence Morgott calling them all "traitors"
Harlburger Helper
Harlburger Helper 16 dias atrás
@sultan788 that does make sense. I feel like you could argue Radahn's inspiration by Godfrey might've led him to share beliefs in line with his including serving the Golden Order but that I'm wholly sure of. But he and Ranni are direct siblings, they may not have had as close a relationship as Malenia and Miquella but still brother and sister. I don't think Radahn acted expressly to prevent Ranni from fulfilling her destiny, but I do believe it's entirely possible he knew what it'd cause in relation to his own sister, I mean he stopped the stars from moving which directly prevented Ranni from moving forward
sultan788
sultan788 16 dias atrás
It seems like all the children of Renalla and Radagon's have become much older and on their own unique path. I'm not sure either of their plans are in direct relation to one another Rykard rejected the Golden Order but got consumed by power. Still looks up to Radahn and conspires with Ranni as sibling love Ranni is influenced by the Dark Moon, in slight opposition to her mother and definitely to her father, disliking the idea of how a Godly being like the Elden Ring and Erdtree are in arms reach. She wants a new god and chase her own ideal destiny, which unfortunately requires Radahn to die, not for personal reasons though. She kills other Gods to remove the idea of the Elden Ring, hence the Godwyn incident Radahn is inspired by Godrey and Radagon in war and also inspired by Renalla as a scholar. Then found greater purpose using his Demi God power to halt a greater threat indicated by being taught star magic from someone that comes from the stars, a warning. These are adults unlike Malenia and Miquella whom goals are linked with one another, like kid siblings looking out for each other. Radahn doesn't seem strongly affiliated to any Order or God, studying the outer gods and space/stars then using his own god powers to deal with the potential problems. Meanwhile Ranni wants a new god but not in the way the Erdtree is
Random Guy
Random Guy 21 dia atrás
Hol' up, that actually makes sense.
masternod
masternod Mês atrás
I must say I really like Morgott, he seems to be kind of a family person to me. I mean he is guarding the entry to Godrick and sure it could be because Godrick is weak, but they are family, so maybe he is there to defend his family. Morgott even calls Godrick "The Golden" rather than "The Grafted". Also in the throne room, someone is putting those chairs in the arena, a chair for each but the two Omens, perhaps he hopes the rest of his family will cease their ambitions and aim to be a peaceful familiy. I can just see him phoning up the rest to ask over for familiy meal: "Hey Mogh, you got time, right?" "Sorry, I am plotting" *click* "Hey Male..." "I am Malenia, Blade of" *click* "So, Rykard, still wants to eat the gods?" "TOGETHER!!!" *click* ... "Guess it is just me and a phantom image of my dad... again..."
Scimitar123
Scimitar123 2 dias atrás
This is getting more sad😑
XXIVVIXCIII
XXIVVIXCIII 22 dias atrás
Morgott wasn't protecting Godrick. He was there to stop a tarnished getting an easy great rune. Because like everyone else knows, Godrick is a joke.
Dante Stogsdill
Dante Stogsdill 22 dias atrás
Oh, this comment thread is golden... much like the beautiful Erdtree.
John Doe
John Doe 25 dias atrás
@David Hong same vibes as that tweet, "peepaw made burgers for all grandkids, only I showed up"
chrisgsayshello
chrisgsayshello 28 dias atrás
Mohg: Literally how in tf did you get this #? We don't even have an area code here.
WAFSack
WAFSack 28 dias atrás
Another thing about Melina possibly being connected to Malenia and Miquella is that her armor set, the traveler's set, is found right outside Malenia's arena, next to the other bloom of scarlet rot (it's also the armor set that Millicent wears, just without the bloodstains).
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leon jakobsen
leon jakobsen Mês atrás
I really hope that the dlc expands on melina, she feel like the only character who we're still missing some crucial information about. Even with Miquela, we broadly know who and what he is, and what his relations to the other major characters are. Melina is this weird enigma, who knows a lot about seemingly everything, but noone else ever even mentions her
JD pitmint
JD pitmint 13 dias atrás
@IsaiahtheAvenger see i thought that maybe melina was actually never fully born as a mortal, and gave ranni, her sister the inspiration to cast her mortal body as rennala went insane melina's name could be seen as a combination of two names too, rennala radagon and ranni share name conventions, but so do marika, rennala and melina, i think as an act of cruelty, melina was seperated from her mortal body by marika, who was done being radagon at that time and set her plan in motion to destroy the elden ring. melina being the gloam eyed queen is interesting too, as gloam means dawn. ranni is the dusk melina is the dawn and yes, her body is still in the cocoon that rennala clutches, but her power to "rebirth" the player is eerily reminiscent of the ability to turn runes to strength
IsaiahtheAvenger
IsaiahtheAvenger 27 dias atrás
@Trisbane Fair enough, the Moons may not be Outer Gods but they're alive and sentient to some degree. I still wouldn't say they are negative influences though, they're against the Golden Order and Greater Will so their intentions are good as far as we know.
Trisbane
Trisbane 27 dias atrás
​@IsaiahtheAvenger I have to disagree with you that the moons are just objects and nothing more, and I think you've also misconstrued them as guides when it's only the lost Dark Moon that served as a guide. Let me point to some descriptions and dialogue: During Ranni's ending, she tells the player that now "Cometh the age of the stars, A thousand year voyage under the wisdom of the Moon." An innocuous and unmeddling object usually is not described as wise. Rennala's full moon states: "Queen Rennala encountered this enchanting moon when she was young, and later, it would bewitch the academy." This implies that Rennala was enchanted by the moon, and that she used the full moon to bewitch the academy, likely owing to her rise to power within the academy. Finally, the Frozen Armament spell says, "The snowy crone taught the young Ranni to fear the dark moon as she imparted her cold sorcery." If the dark moon was a harmless object of worship, why would the snowy crone warn Ranni to fear it? As for the lost black moon, the Moon of Nokstella --"This talisman represents the lost black moon. The moon of Nokstella was the guide of countless stars." We know from Sellen and from first-hand experience that the stars contain life, and that life is terrifying - just ask Astel.
FastenedCarrot
FastenedCarrot 29 dias atrás
@IsaiahtheAvenger Ranni: "I'm gonna kill myself and put my soul in a doll because the moon and shit" Ranni Simps: "I see no flaws with this"
the incognitive
the incognitive Mês atrás
I 100% believe that Melina is Miquella and Malenia's sister, just read the descriptions of all 3 butterflies!
Madison Kilbourne
Madison Kilbourne Mês atrás
Just realized that Godwyn is the nameless king of elden ring, where in dark souls he was cast out for accepting dragons, but outlived most other gods. Meanwhile in elden ring he was praise's for accepting dragons, but killed before any other god
marceelino
marceelino 27 dias atrás
@Konniptionz I stopped reading after the few lines. It went to some crazy off-topic. Yeah, you are right, Dark souls games are the same and their sequels are just a cash grab based on the first one. You mentioned different genres of games. You are right, there are many games that are simply copies, not providing anything new. Just cash grabs. Plus, your 100 bosses are like 20 bosses painted differently.
Konniptionz
Konniptionz Mês atrás
@Arwah Yeah. I think it's a reference to the Stormbringer blade used to kill Yhorm the Giant dude. Not really much of a conspiracy. It's just an upgraded version of that fight. : /
Konniptionz
Konniptionz Mês atrás
@marceelino Over 100 bosses to roughly 40 bosses and maybe 1/10th of the content. Same game. Got it. Lol. Everybody, don't need to buy Elden Ring. By that logic, we also don't need to buy any Dark Souls games after 1. They're the same. Just another cycle of the rekindling of the First Flame. ... I mean, by the same logic every shooter game? Same thing, just units placed in different areas. RPG? Same mechanics. Just different sprites and story. You can say something has the bare bones of anything and go " Lol it's the same " - but can you really say it's the same beyond a few references left behind for fans of their previous games? The enemies are new designs, similar attack patterns with new speeds. The bosses are all rather different to any of the medieval stuff in Dark Souls 1 - 3. Maybe Demons Souls stuff it lines up with? But not often, but even still, it's a game with well over 100 hours of content on just one character and Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 could all be completed in half that time. Not beaten, completed. ... It's clearly gonna have different story beats, different outcomes and different characters involved now. Ranni for instance is an Empyrean, not some immortal worm creature that lurks in the shadows. She's a daughter of a demi-god that wants to make the world a place of cold logic, not cruelty based on how someone feels like the Golden Order. Golden Order wants to keep it's power because it's trying to maintain what order it can after screwing up and accidentally making life so diverse and full of conflict, causing all the pain, suffering and war it has. It's done it's best to essentially become a totalitarian state that spans the Lands Between so nobody can rebel and do more harm. Rykard sympathized with Ranni and rose up against the Golden Order, knowing full well he'd be branded a heretic, his wife and children forever having to do battle with the Golden Order and their " heroes " for centuries to come. It's fairly different. Plus- when did you need a special blade to kill gods in Dark Souls? You literally walk up to Gwyn, the very Lord of Cinder and slap him in the tits. You can do it with anything. Even a broken straight sword and he drops. Meanwhile in the game, you can't truly defeat gods unless you have Destined Death back in the world.
Konniptionz
Konniptionz Mês atrás
@Moon Man The only connection is a few references and people like Patches that even appeared in Demons Souls when that game had nothing to do with Dark Souls and was it's precursor, then he shows up in every Dark Souls because they liked having a funny trickster character that messes with lore nerds in a meta way too. They even stated that openly.
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@Gregory Bennett patches is in every souls game just like the moonlight blade there not tied to any certain story
Patrick Hebdo
Patrick Hebdo Mês atrás
The painting at the end gives such vibes of a young Radagon’s adventures with Torrent. It would make sense as to why he belongs to Melina at the beginning, Radagon wanted to give the next destined Lord his steed to assist.
Aaron Bouck
Aaron Bouck 22 dias atrás
After learning more about the demigods, I'm kind of sad we didn't get a Rykard or Mohg ending: I'd have loved to 'devour the very gods togethaa,' or eventually replace Mohg and meld our blood with Miquella to bring an Age of Blood.
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An Idiot 6 dias atrás
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Razin Rushdan
Razin Rushdan 12 dias atrás
Maybe in DLC
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Beep Boop Mês atrás
What could also possibly support the theory that Melina is indeed, a daughter of Marika is one of her Marika's quotes - "In Marika's own words. Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...". The sacrifice might actually refer to Melina here. If the theory is correct, the rest of her could-be-siblings are on and all famous and significant, while she's the unknown drowned in obscurity. Haven't this tidbit being brought up anywhere, so i thought it was worth mentioning.
Max T
Max T 3 dias atrás
@Enka Svenka Coincidence...? I THINK NOT!
Enka Svenka
Enka Svenka 11 dias atrás
@Cory Baxter M-R-G or G-R-M, George-RR-Martin
Cory Baxter
Cory Baxter 12 dias atrás
Why do you think most demigods and omens name starts with either M, R or G? It's to literally indicate to whom they descent from. They all come Marika, Radagon, Godfrey or Renna (moonwitch sry if I got her name wrong ).
Nandikesha Jungwirth
Nandikesha Jungwirth 29 dias atrás
Such a good point, thanks for sharing this
Daris Waters
Daris Waters 19 dias atrás
I hope someday we'll get a "Prepare to cry" series on all the demigods, especially on Morgott (though actually I already cry over his lore)
Paulo Eduardo dos Santos Ariente
I've always quesioned myself about why Gransax attacked. Then I remembered that the god of Placidusax fled, and that the Erdtree actually envelops something else, maybe the remnats of the Great Tree, related to the god of Placidusax and the arrival of the Greater Will via the Elden Beast was seen as a defilement, making the ancient dragons ready themselves to cut down the Erdtree in time.
Al Fall Doot
Al Fall Doot 8 dias atrás
No, Placidusaxx was an elden lord, so he must have served the greater will has well. The God who fled was probably more like Marika than the greater will
Facundo Vera
Facundo Vera 10 dias atrás
Radahn sure was a general, just not one of the Golden Order. Elden Stars: "It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a Beast into the Lands Betwwen, which would later become the Elden Ring." A Sword Monument close to the Impassable Greatbridge: "The Starscourge Conflict. Radahn alone holds Sellia secure. And stands tall, to shatter the stars" Ruins Greatsword: "The ruin it came from crumbled when struck by a meteorite, as such this weapon harbors it's destructive power." Radahn probably thought he did everyone a favor by holding the stars. And he also prevented the Greater Will from using them to punish the Lands Betwwen. Carian Retaliation: "This was the Carian royal family's secret means to prepare against the disloyalty of the academy. The moon and the stars would one day go their separate ways." I think Radahn was helping the royal family by weakening the connection of the Academy sorcerers to the stars. There's a portrait of Radahn in the Volcano Manor, which means the Gelmir Knights admired him. There's an Abductor Virgin in Redmane Castle, and some outside in Caelid. Rykard helped Radahn in his war. Morgott calls Radahn a traitor, and we see them fight during the intro, which means the Redmanes sieged Leyndell. That sure made Radagon proud. When telling Jerren about Iji he tells us Iji forged swords resistant to the rot for Radahn's army. Jerren tells us to inform Iji that killing Radahn will set Ranni's fate back into motion. Then when we tell Iji he is flabbergasted as to how he didn't think of this possibility. This shows the act wasn't specifically against Ranni as if it was she'd have already known. The Greater Will banished Radahn's idol, later made his father marry another woman and drove Rennala mad.
Facundo Vera
Facundo Vera 5 horas atrás
@The Raconteur Also this theory sure is holding up .
Facundo Vera
Facundo Vera 16 horas atrás
@The Raconteur "During the age of the Erdtree, Carian astrology withered on the vine. The fate once writ in the night skies had been fettered by the Golden Order." 1. It says "by the Golden Order" not Radahn. 2. Also "During the age of the Erdtree" not the shattering, and Radahn was holding the stars during the Shattering War, and he wasn't even born yet when the age of the Erdtree began.
The Raconteur
The Raconteur 17 horas atrás
Bro the telescope legit told us the Golden Order stopped fate by fettering the stars lol. Radahn did that. This theory ain’t holdin up
nintendawesome
nintendawesome Mês atrás
i always thought melinas hair being strawberry blonde was a huge implication of her origins. A mix of red and blonde, but closer to blonde might reference her alignment as far as marika/ radagon go.
H N
H N Mês atrás
That Miquella and Malenia segment was beautiful Vaati, you really captured how much love the siblings had for one another and how far Miquella would go to save his Sister.
Sentinalof Yourmom
Sentinalof Yourmom Mês atrás
Perhaps melania emphasizes that she's "the blade of miquella" not for the tarnished but for herself. I mean if she is semi-controlled by an outer god, perhaps that constant mention of who she is allows her to not let go. And helps her remember what she's fighting for. And maybe the reaosn mohg is obsessed with miquella is because of miquella's purity. If the point of miquellas haligtree was to accept all, that would mean Omens could find peace after death.
曹雨婷
曹雨婷 12 dias atrás
@Snazzy Jovial Wyrm maybe. There is definitely a big change in her character between the 2 phases. She was talking about a nightmare where she was completely consumed by rot(which is pretty much reality), and in the second phase “let your flesh be consumed by the Scarlet Rot”??? There is something lost to her after her bloom and she only regain it after death.
Rogue Wave James
Rogue Wave James 12 dias atrás
​@曹雨婷 that doesn't necessarily mean she's "only" saying it out of pride. she could still be reassuring herself, considering she is vulnerable to the rot and its memory wiping aspects. it's still a possibility, we can right out because of difference in translation.
FastenedCarrot
FastenedCarrot 29 dias atrás
I'm not sure peace is anywhere in Mogh's mind at all. After death or otherwise.
DarkKingHades
DarkKingHades Mês atrás
@Kun Exactly. Mohg doesn't have the power/ skill to create a new type of albinaurics. So instead, he corrupts the second generation into something quasi-new, like the orcs in Middle-Earth.
Adrammelech, the Wroth
I can respect the mighty Gransax. He has a really cool spear and he taught Lyndel some humility.
gigaChadow
gigaChadow Mês atrás
“I don’t know if you’ve heard it yet, but malenia is actually the blade of Miquella” 😂😂 keep up the great work vaati thank you for the great video!
Jason
Jason Mês atrás
I think the Carians were descendants of the Nox who weren’t buried underground. Separate from the astrologers who come from Mountaintops. The reason why the sword of night and flame is in Caria Manor is that it’s a trophy for the Carian’s political war against the Academy.
Cheval mongole
Cheval mongole Mês atrás
Nox like Wakfu lel
heyoceans
heyoceans Mês atrás
i agree!! i also came to that conclusion because Ranni tells you to go underground and it seems the underground areas are linked to their above ground
Deadgye
Deadgye Mês atrás
26:35 The most likely theory is that Melina is Ranni's other half, possibly the same way that Radagon is Marika's, or something similar. Or a partial rebirth, or created from part of her soul. Melina is the daughter of Marika, but don't forget Radagon is Marika. Consider that the previous two butterflies are associated with Empyreans. The third Empyrean was Ranni. Melina says that she is "burned and bodyless". Ranni's empyrean body was burned by the black flames of destined death and killed. Ranni's soul body matches Melina's model perfectly and the eye marks combine to create a five-taloned claw. When they fade away they also fade in the same style or blue glitters.
Snazzy Jovial Wyrm
Snazzy Jovial Wyrm Mês atrás
Godwyn's story is so sad, especially when you take into consideration what happens to Fortissax, a powerful ancient dragon whom he fought, defeated, and then became best friends with. When Godwyn died, Fortissax tried all he could to try and save him, only to become corrupted by Death, forced to forever live a horrible nightmare.
Dyneamaeus
Dyneamaeus Mês atrás
@Jsh Tng If the Moons of Caria are in fact Elder Gods, then Ranni is certainly a pawn manipulated into acting as it desires. Of course, if they aren't her ending is still pretty dark, since there's very little chance the puppet-princess will to win.
AscendantStoic
AscendantStoic Mês atrás
What I find truly bizarre is how little to nothing is left of Godwyn's legacy, no armor, no weapons, no incantation, no statues or paintings in his image, it's like he never existed or someone went out of their way to erase all signs of his existence (as if ashamed of what they had become, maybe the Golden Order!?).
Joseph Gold
Joseph Gold Mês atrás
​@Farty Fazbear Because each outer God has an "order" to their system, even if that system is chaos, and a sin is "tampering" with the goals of an outer God. This usually results in extremely unfavorable results, either as punishment or by unintended consequences. This isn't to say "sins" are evil, because an outer god may have an agenda that's entirely deplorable, but it is understood that to propagate most outer Gods have some method to their madness that is able to spread its will onto others.
Lost Remote
Lost Remote Mês atrás
You know, now that I think about it Miquella was the unalloyed gold needle for the Haligtree. Once he was removed Time/Rot did its work on the tree.
UnholyWrath3277
UnholyWrath3277 12 dias atrás
Miquella fed the tree with his blood which was basically a fountain of youth. It just never was a natural tree and couldn't survive without this outside influence
Thomas D
Thomas D Mês atrás
The scarlet bloom in the Malenia fight is the third one. The first is the wings referenced in the prosthesis wearer's heirloom description - her rot form has the wings; the second is the fight with Radahn in the trailer. The third is in the fight with you under the Haligtree that the Scarlet Aeonia description says will turn her into a true goddess, and her remembrance is of the rot *goddess*.
The Raconteur
The Raconteur Dia atrás
So y’all just gonna ignore that ghost npc near the Swamp of Aeonia that literally tells us Malenia’s first bloom was in that battle? Smh, this is why Vaati is the lore guy and not randos in comment sections 😆
Deadgye
Deadgye Mês atrás
"Though born into the accursed rot, when the young girl encountered her mentor and his flowing blade, she gained wings of unparalleled strength." The wings she gained was the flowing sword and it's culminate technique the waterfowl dance. If the unparalleled strength she obtained were wings of rot why would the description say "Though born into the accursed rot"? And if her mentor caused her rot to bloom for the first time when they encountered each other, why would he have taught her after that? It's possible you're right, but I'm not sure it really fits. Also, it's possible to interpret the Blue Dancer Charm's description, "Blade in hand, the swordsman sealed away an ancient god - a god that was Rot itself.", as him mentoring Malenia as opposed to him fighting a rot god long before he met Malenia.
Straight White Male
Yeah he seemed weirdly clueless about Malenia's lore. He said that Malenia resisted the Rot through sheer willpower, but that's horseshit. Yes she didn't like playing puppet of an Outer God, but it was Miquella's Needle doing the resisting for her. And her pride still had her prefer playing puppet than losing a fight fairly. And he also said that her Goddess form is just her true form which she suppressed (like the closely kept secret of Radagon being Marika and vice versa), which is more nonsense and again paints her in a much better light. She doesn't have a choice. It's as simple as her being possessed by the Outer God when not injected by unalloyed gold, which allows it to act through her the same way the Greater Will acts through Marika. She doesn't hide/go into god mode at will. It's something that happens when the Rot blooms through her a third time, which was against us. I don't understand how so many people get this wrong. The item descriptions ALWAYS speak in past tense, and the Scarlet Aeonia incantation literally spells it out for us. How people are still theorizing about her boggles the mind...
GoldenMale
GoldenMale Mês atrás
Ranni, Rykard and Radahn are the best generation of children in my opinion, their power scale, personalities and designs are the best, the parent's were smashing good it seems hehe
MaxSnow24
MaxSnow24 14 dias atrás
@B Gill debatable since they are definitely radagon's children and since radagon is marika, then radagon's children are marika's children. It honestly seems like the idea of them becoming demi gods through adoption is an excuse. Everyone in the lands between seems to know Rykard, Radahn, and Ranni are all demi-gods even though Radagon and Rennala are not (known to be) demi-gods. People even call into question why Marika would take a mere champion (Radagon) as her consort, so Radagon is not considered a god by most people in the lands between, so Rykard, Radahn, and Ranni should just be normal people pretty much, it seems them being adopted by Marika as step-children is a good enough explanation for the people in the lands between but since we know Radagon is in fact a god because he is Marika, I'm pretty sure Rykard, Radahn, and Ranni were demi-gods already from birth. Radagon becoming Marika's consort and her adopting them is just a cover story explanation for how they became demi-gods.
B Gill
B Gill 14 dias atrás
funniest part about that is they're not even directly related to Marika. they were simply taken in as her adopted children and made demigods. they weren't even born with the power
Petra B.
Petra B. 29 dias atrás
I do believe that the Golden Order halted the movement of the stars long before Radahn was ever born, partly because of the wording of the lore in the astrologer item descriptions. It’s implied that the halting of the stars is both a result and a cause of the waning of the sorcerers’/astrologers’ power, in tandem with the growth of the Erdtree’s power. The stars, as we know, have an order of their own, which is why Marika went to war against Liurnia in the first place - the Greater Will could not tolerate competing Orders. Since Radagon/Marika couldn’t defeat them in battle, however, they married into the lineage instead. It’s unclear how exactly this may have proceeded, but ultimately Rennala’s acceptance of Radagon allowed the Golden Order to supplant that of the stars, and halt their movement. It’s interesting to use this as a way to examine Rennala and Radagon’s relationship as well. The sorcerers of Rays Lucaria turned on Rennala when she was left broken by his departure, and the game implies that they saw her brokenness as an obvious weakness, and she was not the champion they thought her to be. But the implications of what happened to the stars (the source of her power) after her acceptance of Radagon also seem to imply that this marriage was, at least symbolically, a concession of defeat tantamount to a win in battle. It seems Radagon “conquered” her one way or another, but that the people of Liurnia only realized it after the era of the Erdtree’s abundance was over, and the source of their own power was still locked away. To that effect then, Radahn’s conquering of the stars would amount to him declaring for the Erdtree and the Golden Order on his father’s and his idol’s behalf, as the Golden Order would, after the shattering, no longer have the power and influence to keep the stars in check. So Radahn took on that mantle for it, and accomplished what his father, effectively, could not.
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Elementroar
Elementroar Mês atrás
The scarlet rot seems modelled after real world apple rust, which is a fungal infection of cedar and apple trees. Even the knotted growths in Caelid look like it, as does the ‘lotus’ like bloom of the scarlet aeonia. And just like how a tree can’t stop the fungal infection without outside help, the Erd Tree/Golden Order seems unable to stop its influence on Malenia, as Miquella found.
KonyHawksProSlaver
KonyHawksProSlaver 22 dias atrás
it isn't though, it's probably a reference to higanbana (lycoris radiata), aka "ressurection lily", it has symbology in Japan tied to death and ressurection. look it up
Hannes Erwing
Hannes Erwing 23 dias atrás
Just found out that apple rust also affects Shimpaku juniper, an indigenous plant to Japan. Used in bonsai decoration, it was once a symbol of status.
Eliott Hung
Eliott Hung 29 dias atrás
I just want to answer this one because I investigated on this topic for a bit and I found the scarlet rot to be a reference about grey rot, wich is caused by a fungi that develops on a lot of fruits. Interistingly enough, when grapes are infected with grey rot, this disease is also called "noble rot" (if handled properly, it can make unique awesome wines, but if the fruit suffers it from too long, it dies). It also looks the same as what we can see in Caelid.
Church
Church Mês atrás
@fkerriga look up the 40 fruit tree, branch grafting was definitely an inspiration for him
Nook Small
Nook Small Mês atrás
The similarity between the lotus bloom and real life apple rust growth is almost identical. It's most certainly influenced by it. Great observation! Thank you for sharing.
VAB0L0
VAB0L0 Mês atrás
I truly appreciate the depth of tone in Elden Ring, you can have both a mythical demi-god who conquered the stars to a standstill and a ridiculous, emaciated horse supporting a hulking brute... _Togethaaa!_
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I was really hoping for a age of blasphemy ending or age of the serpent, that and an age of blood would be incredible, I’m not an invader mainly but they deserve a cool ending.
betterbardowins
betterbardowins 16 dias atrás
i think there is a chance that we see something from rikard in the dlc since his face is still in the arena
I am malenia, blade of miquella
Also, love your pfp.
I am malenia, blade of miquella
Both, varres and rykards bitch short questline could unlock Some endings, like you said, however i wonder how rykards bitch questline would continue after the serpents Fall. And for varre, it is disappointing that it ends with you just killing him and then mohg (near mohgs boss room are These Red Stones that let you invade varre.), i still don't get how People found him hard.
Saint Buddy
Saint Buddy Mês atrás
Gold in Elden Ring is kind of a conduit for outer gods, so the unalloyed gold means gold pure of the influence of outer gods, which is why it wards off the rot and madness
Gladiator Marcellus
Gladiator Marcellus 21 dia atrás
When I first came across a smoldering butterfly in limgrave I killed a random guy next to a campfire and I thought he was burning butterflies for fun to escape the boredom of sitting around for something to happen
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Mayank Pant
Mayank Pant Mês atrás
I am damn sure we will be getting a "miquella's" dlc. He is such a mysterious and interesting character that it would be such a waste not to dive deeper into his character and his ambitions.
Voldebutt
Voldebutt Mês atrás
im wondering, since all of the DLC in each Souls game sends you back into the past, that we will encounter Marika and actually have to help her get into contact with the Greater Will, and call forth the Greater Will to appear after we destroy Elden Beast in the finale
John P
John P Mês atrás
I think Miquella exists only in mind somewhere inside that cocoon past Mogh's boss room. The DLC that we go into might be a dream world of some sort. Just imagine how cool that kind of place could look. Might have an overarching heaven like theme and angels to fight that mimic malanias look.
Potatex
Potatex Mês atrás
I'm still waiting for a Lightning of Tomoe DLC...
The Monolith
The Monolith Mês atrás
@Solaire Solalalalalemon How does Castle Sol reveal a "darker side" of Miquella? As far as we know right now, he was trying to use Castel Sol's power over the eclipse to return Godwyn's soul to his body. While we don't know if this was meant to return him to life or grant him a true death to escape from the horrific limbo he's currently in, either way it just shows he cared about his brother. What's so bad about that?
Noah Caelum
Noah Caelum Mês atrás
Miquella is essentially the only one who can canonically murder Outer Gods like the Greater Will.
AscendantStoic
AscendantStoic Mês atrás
Amazing cinematic presentation, nice work Vaati. About Radahan, the only way to use a finger-killing knife is to have a "fate" (which probably has something to do with also being an Empyrean), and to have a fate the stars must be free, so to prevent people from wielding the finger-killing knife from Nokron I'm quite certain the Greater Will tasked Radahn with arresting the movement of the stars to prevent anyone from murdering their two-finger emissaries, which is why Ranni tasked us with taking out Radahn (and it just happened that he (and his men) also wanted an honorable death, so win/win). As for Godwyn, what I find really strange is how there is nothing of Godwyn left behind except his giant unsightly mermaid corpse, no paintings, no weapons or armor used by him, no incantations, no statues ... for someone as important and heroic as Godwyn (he singlehandedly beat an ancient dragon and then befriended two of the last remaining ancient dragons effectively ending the war) he has no presence or legacy left in the world, it's like he either never really existed or someone intentionally went out of their way to erase any signs of his existence, I wonder if that was an intentional choice by the devs/Fromsoftware!!!?
Abbas Kizilbash
Abbas Kizilbash Mês atrás
Vaati this is absolutely amazing as always! I know other people would agree, but you put so much time and research into these videos and they always turn it amazing! I loved your chapter-like series you did on the story and lore of Sekiro and I think Elden Ring would be a perfect game to try something like that again! Can't wait for the next video!
Sharif Abdelal
Sharif Abdelal 10 dias atrás
The Haligtree feels to me that it has many of the same themes as the Painted World - also a place for people who don’t belong, as well as being a secret area in DS1.
Sebastian Boyce
Sebastian Boyce Mês atrás
Theory about Omen. I think it has to do when the parents lose their grace. The greater will punishes the parents by way of their children. I think Mohg and Morgott were born closer to Godfrey completing his mission, right before he is divested of his grace. That moment when he loses the fight in his eyes basically, where Marika no longer has a use for him (and by consequence the Greater Will is also done with him)
Eirik Sundby
Eirik Sundby Mês atrás
Mohg's character design actually does an immense amount of work in telling his story visually. Mohg, unlike his Brother, saw his accursed blood as a blessing rather than a curse. He fanatically worships the formless mother, as she blessed him due to his curse. This is visually communicated by Mohg's curse growing unchecked on his body. Rather than shave down horns in places where it'd be inconvenient to have them grow, Mohg has allowed his horns to grow to the point where one is sprouting from between his fingers and Another digs into his eye. He is blinded by fanatical belief in his blessing, literally.
Shane Lovelace
Shane Lovelace Mês atrás
@Zach Conant lol
Zach Conant
Zach Conant Mês atrás
@Shane Lovelace “more crazy” huh, I kinda liked Mohg and thought he had some good points.
Shane Lovelace
Shane Lovelace Mês atrás
I saw an interesting post a while ago that also pretty much said the same thing, but also mentioned that the horn piercing his eye might also be growing right into his brain, making him even more crazy
jonmac1987
jonmac1987 Mês atrás
He's literally putting more 'points' in faith... I'll see myself out....
parto bakhtiary
parto bakhtiary Mês atrás
Amazing point!
Dickmond Dickelheimer
G.R.R. Martin's writing works perfectly with fromsoft lore because he doesn't have to finish or explain the story its up to the player
Straight White Male
He wrote the history of the world, while From took his world and characters from there and made the story with it. I think they put his talents to use in the best possible way. His characters are, no offense to From Software's own great characters, so much superior to anything I've experienced in a game before. Just the depth of someone like Maliketh alone is incredible.
toijg avnnr
toijg avnnr Mês atrás
Vaati's videos are some of the only videos where 30 minutes feels like 5. It's just so immersive and nice to listen to.
Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson 28 dias atrás
I just found out that Renallas Full moon sorcery stuns the silver tear enemies, or puts them into some kind of slumber. This may have some kind of lore implication, but at the least, it is a useful gameplay tip for sorcery builds. I haven't found that fact in any video or Elden ring wiki, so might be a contender for another 10 useful Gameplay secrets or even lore video ;) Love your videos keep on doing what you're doing! Greetz from Germany
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Maria Zolotova
Maria Zolotova 2 dias atrás
I would love more lore videos on Marika alone. She is THE most interesting character in all souls games so far. Her making heself into Radagon do defeat Rennala is genius
Ridire Oíche
Ridire Oíche Mês atrás
According to a veterinary student friend of ours, Malenia and Miquella's cursed illnesses are similar to exaggerations of deformities produced by inbreeding. A kind of Impism, in which the person remains physically juvenile for the rest of their lives but continues to grow mentally, and excessive tumors or scarlet rot from gaps and overlapping dna sequences/alleles. Could the curses be a punishment from the greater will for marika mating with herself?
TheWhiteGoblin
TheWhiteGoblin Mês atrás
@Hannah Becton Now that is an interesting theory, especially with death being bound away. Might explain why she would be so willing to burn the tree down in her own way.
Hannah Becton
Hannah Becton Mês atrás
@Crustáceo You reminding me of that fact granted me with a new theory… Melina is bodyless. All souls return to the Erdtree when they die, but Melina was born in the Erdtree. What if Melina was the stillborn child of Marika and Radagon? And her unborn soul continued to develop and grow within the Erdtree?
Markus
Markus Mês atrás
Inbreeding sounds just like something GRRM would write into the story.
DarkKingHades
DarkKingHades Mês atrás
@Glockenspiel Yes, exactly!
DarkKingHades
DarkKingHades Mês atrás
This has been my thinking from the moment I learned that Marica and Radagon are one entity.
Caleb Caldwell
Caleb Caldwell Mês atrás
Anyone else notice that Margit/Morgott seems to have some of his horns cut (his forehead for example mainly has stubs.) Contrasting his face with that of Mohg or some of the shunning ground omen, I can't help but believe that he cut his own horns off, perhaps in reverence of the Erdtree.
Fiddlevlad
Fiddlevlad Mês atrás
I absolutely love your content. Incredibly informative, elegant, at times highly speculative, but ultimately insanely interesting. If I could express but one wish, then it would be the distinction between theory in everyday conversation and a scientific theory (as opposed to hypothesis). I find your research so impressive and thorough that I honestly think your content would benefit from your making that distinction in future content, since I feel you use the word theory for both highly speculative guesses as well as pretty well-founded and well-argumented theories.
Kyle C
Kyle C 14 dias atrás
As someone who didn’t result pickup much of the lore while playing, your videos have been amazing to help understand what was going on.
Il Re Giallo
Il Re Giallo Mês atrás
I personally see a connection between the omen's horns and the spirit's horns (wich are branches of a new tree, growing from their body and their souls). Maybe omen are "seed" of a new three, but in the Age of the Erdtree they are seen as a curse
A Glimpse Inside
A Glimpse Inside Mês atrás
I look forward to these videos like I look forward to a new release of my favorite TV series. Well done Vaat!
LordSevla
LordSevla Mês atrás
Just need to split the explanations better. Sometimes there's so many different topics in the same video...
TomOhawk
TomOhawk Mês atrás
Yes, Vaat…
Dennis
Dennis Mês atrás
Yeah true and it has the same "30 mins are over way to quick" feel as well
The Groom Reaper
The Groom Reaper Mês atrás
Same, I feel like the videos are slower to release than they used to be and that just makes me more interested.
chris4203
chris4203 Mês atrás
Hell yea the only lore vids I’ll ever watch
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The work that must go into making these videos. Getting all these amazing shots to go along with the script is just incredible production. I wish I could like this video multiple times.
Lord Hypnocat
Lord Hypnocat Mês atrás
You can really tell Vaati grasps the themes of duality in Elden Ring. He even demonstrates the concept himself if you've turned on subtitles and compare them to what he says at 18:01. The duality of man indeed
misuyy fong
misuyy fong Mês atrás
Honestly, I would love a full backstory and part in the story for Ranni. She just interests me so much and I want to know more about her part/her ending
Taka W.D
Taka W.D Dia atrás
sad fact, Godwyn befriended the dragon Fortissax and the two became the best of friends, so much so that they became sworn brothers, Fortissax was the most broken by Godwyns Death, he was in so much pain to the point that he tried to revive his fallen brother, rejuvinating and piecing his soul back and for what seemed like thousands of years ended up trying to take on Godwyns condition, which Failed and aaso turned him into a lich dragon. A truly saddening tale of the affects of grief
LePeppino
LePeppino Mês atrás
I just love how these pieces of software created a whole community to play, create and discuss theories; it's just a nice thing to do... TOGETHAAAA
my_name_is_desh!
my_name_is_desh! Mês atrás
RISE YE TARNISHED!
reapordeath
reapordeath Mês atrás
TOGETHAAAA FOREVAAAAA
Lugent
Lugent Mês atrás
Tbf most story driven games have that effect on the community.
Ryan Skinner
Ryan Skinner Mês atrás
I love mmmmmyYYYYOUUUUUUUUU
Ryan Karuna
Ryan Karuna Mês atrás
TOGETHA WE SHALL DEVOUR EVERY (ELDEN RING) VODS
Connor Stratford
Connor Stratford Mês atrás
Radahn is by far my favorite fromsoft character and one of my favorites period
The7Reaper
The7Reaper Mês atrás
The lore in this game is wild but so damn amazing
Andy Boots_ACTA
Andy Boots_ACTA Mês atrás
You’re an absolute artist. Thank you so much for what you do for our community
Camron .W
Camron .W Mês atrás
I think one of the best details I found had to do with the Volcano manner, the Ghostly Knight which tells you of the Serpent Hunter wears a set of Gelmir Knight armour.
옹발이 ONGBAL
옹발이 ONGBAL Mês atrás
Butterfly theory is really interesting. Great content as always ! 👍👍
Auvisome
Auvisome Mês atrás
Ogre ogre ogre play DMC
Swaraj Sarkar
Swaraj Sarkar Mês atrás
The Elden Ring alongside almost all of Fromsoft games have some incredible stories to dive into. It would be amazing if it is adopted into a live action series or movies.
EET FUK
EET FUK Mês atrás
omg. the GOD!
Megalinc
Megalinc Mês atrás
The Elden Lord has spoken
SosaTheOG
SosaTheOG Mês atrás
Ongbal was the true OG legend before let me solo her
JCW
JCW Mês atrás
People and content like Vaat's are rare. So subtle. Yet so mindblowing. Im really thankful for the channel and I will support when possible.
László Kovács
László Kovács Mês atrás
It is remarkable that how much work you put in making these videos. You make our gaming experience much deeper and better. Thank you.
Julio Guadalupe
Julio Guadalupe Mês atrás
Beautifully explained. Very masterful reconstruction of the Elden Ring timeline with an emphasis on the key events that drive the story and it’s character’s motivations. Also you have a great voice. Thanks for cutting this together and narrating. It has further endeared me to the incredible world of Elden Ring.
Ponzuu
Ponzuu Mês atrás
I really love all the tiny jokes mixed in with the thoughtful narration. I think a lot of other creators have tried to weave jokes in with their video-essays, but most make a jarring shift in focus to their joke. These lore videos are such a rare treat in that they are not verbose, and yet very thorough and entertaining.
ph0kused
ph0kused Mês atrás
9:50 i always thought radahn conquering the stars was born out of sibling rivalry between radahn and ranni, in game it is said by iji that lady ranni’s fate is tied to the stars, and possibly he held back the stars out of loyalty to his father. But it could be all of the things you mentioned, either way i wish there was more dialogue about ranni and radahns relationship as bro and sis, they are the best characters in my opinion.
Trice
Trice Mês atrás
There's actually evidence to suggest they were working together. Dialogue from Jerren mentioned how Iji's weapons never succumbed to scarlet rot, implying Iji personally made weapons for the Redmanes, and by extension, Ranni helping Radahn. And think of it, Radahn had a conflict with every demi-god except his siblings and Mohg (mostly because he didn't know he existed). Just because Radahn embraces his red hair doesn't mean he's pro-golden order. Rykard also embraced his read hair via his Gelmir knight's manes.
Big Fest
Big Fest Mês atrás
Always love your editing. Spoiled myself on a 170+ hours first playthrough and you never disappoint. Thank you.
Spiny Slasher
Spiny Slasher 7 dias atrás
It makes perfect sense that unalloyed gold is resistant to rot, as it parallels gold's inertness in real life. One of the reason why gold is so valued is its resistance to decay, which makes it ideal for protective plating to resist against the elements, making it very much in demand in sensitive electronics.
Merom Darisier
Merom Darisier Mês atrás
If you focus on the fact that melina's left eyes is purple and sealed by claws, you may think that she is the dusk-eyed queen of the godskins which was beaten by maliketh. Marika may have sealed her power of dark flame which can kill a god to protect her family from a power linked to destined death. Melina have the power to kill a god that's why she will hunt the player of it became the lord of frenzied flame, the avatar of an outer god.
VaatiVidya
VaatiVidya Mês atrás
I anticipate a lot of people asking why Godrick wasn't in this video - long story short, he justifiably could have been grafted onto it. But the video is long enough already, and if anyone was to be cut, it should be Godrick, who Enia calls "the runt of the litter, his divine blood sorely diluted". So in the end, this video really just focuses on the definition of a Demigod as being the "direct offspring of Queen Marika", as established at 00:00. What constitutes a "Demigod" could actually be an interesting and lengthy debate. Enia obfuscates the definition, there are supposedly other dead Demigods in the mausoleums, and even Godfrey is called a Demigod in the description of Godrick's Great Rune.
Riahisama
Riahisama Mês atrás
@Waka Moon good theory
Straight White Male
Why was Soldier of God, Rick, cut then?
ScDK
ScDK Mês atrás
Godrick was actually in every scene, using the Mimic's Veil to pretend being a prop. He just wants you to bear witness.
Akira
Akira Mês atrás
you should at lest mention him...
Elijah
Elijah 20 dias atrás
In the battlefield outside Leyndell, Melina repeats some of Marikas words to you, where she speaks directly to her demigod children, saying something along the lines of “make something of yourself, or you will only be good for sacrifices”. I think this is a really poignant thing for Melina to tell us, because I think it heavily hints at her identity and why she is a kindling maiden. I don’t believe she was always meant to be the kindling maiden. I think once upon a time, she may have been the gloam eyed queen, and when she ultimately failed, she was forced to become the kindling maiden as we see her today- only good for use as a sacrifice. Just a theory, but I think it makes sense.
Ya boi The Cadian
Ya boi The Cadian 6 dias atrás
A GAME THEORY
Tyler Rhodes
Tyler Rhodes Mês atrás
As always, Thank you, thank you, thank you, I love every video and appreciate when a new one comes out! The in game picture/animations are just so on point. Looking forward to the next upload! Stay safe and healthy Vaati ! Cheers!
Shrimp3r JR
Shrimp3r JR Mês atrás
What an interesting collection of stories, wouldn't it be nice to actually experience them in the main narrative/plot.
Next Gen Room
Next Gen Room Mês atrás
Almost 300 hours . Elden Ring is my favorite game of all time. Thank you for these videos- The story is just EPIC ;3
Q
Q Mês atrás
Miquella also wanted to rid himself and his sister of their curses via the Haligtree. This is why Malenia was there, why there appears to be two trees sprouting from one base and one is “incomplete”, while the other is riddled with scarlet rot.
177013
177013 Mês atrás
She prolly left to fight radahn for his rune, as it protects against the rot, in an effort to help cure her rot.
Cosmic
Cosmic Mês atrás
Perhaps that's why Malenia keeps saying she's the Blade Of Miquella? To remind herself of her true purpose, and not letting her fall completely into the clutches of the outer god.
JustAnotherTurd
JustAnotherTurd Mês atrás
@Dyppity Joop Family, right? smh
Danny Kanerva
Danny Kanerva Mês atrás
so Mogh basically ruined Miquella's plan to help his sister by kidnapping him out ?
Dyppity Joop
Dyppity Joop Mês atrás
Yes also Mohg, Miquellas half brother stole him from the haligtree and attempted to wed him in order to become Consort to Miquella and establish a new age, since Miquella is an empyrean and thus can turn to a god, and is said to be the closest empyrean to god hood. although Mohg may have been mislead by his outer god guide the Formless Mother as Miquella posed a threat to all outer gods due to his unalloyed gold stopping all outer gods, so the Formless Mother may have lead Mohg to the kidnapping. But regardless when Mohg kidnapped Miquella from the wounded Malenia due to her wounds from Radahn, he stopped the Haligtrees growth, making it incomplete. Also due to Miquella's bewitching charm Mohg became truly smitten with him, and no longer wanted him just to establish his own order and truly "cares" for Miquella, in a fucked up way, I mean Mohg is Miquellas much older half brother, soooooooo incest pedo goatman is obviously fucking horrible.
Wither
Wither Mês atrás
when you go into the shaded castle you can find a ghost despairing over taking in Millenia and that she was the downfall of house Maria, she also was a sore looser who turned all of Celid into a living nightmare and reduced the most honorable of the demigods into a raving dog. rykard may be the easiest one to point out as evil but at the very least she is a sore looser and uncaring about the world around her.
Pika_Gal
Pika_Gal 9 dias atrás
I’m playing NG+1 and I honestly missed so much through my first play through… I butchered through and barely knew any lore etc I’m so glad I’m taking my time this time and actually fighting bosses I missed it’s worth it!
Maria Lettieri
Maria Lettieri Mês atrás
Malenia and Miquellas story is so intriguing and heart pulling-I pray they get a DLC
Usman Tariq
Usman Tariq Mês atrás
The photo for that made for this is very amazing and artistic. Great use of shots here man. I just love this games dark and gothic lifestyle and its lore alone is amazing.
Caleb Hackler
Caleb Hackler Mês atrás
In support of the “Fire Butterfly theory/Melina is a sibling.” One of the first things I noticed during my initial playthrough was the scarring on Melina’s body. Her hands in particular are covered in burn scars, as if she was set aflame from an early age. Maybe she became the kindling, because that’s what she always was. Love the lore Vaati! Stellar as always.
Le Nin
Le Nin Mês atrás
maybe the reason she could be used as a kindling is her being cursed by the frenzied flame god with her being "burned and bodyless" and all. also as a sidenote this theory gave more credibility of melina being the gloam eyed dusk queen since destined death and the kindling seems to both be connected with the frenzied flame
v k
v k Mês atrás
ooooh this will explain that maybe she was cast aside considering she was burnt at birth or during childhood in the public view but was secretly taught the method to light up the giants flame. maybe marica kept this daughter of her hidden from the order just in case the order rejects her. like a backup plan.
Vibra
Vibra Mês atrás
Melina's eye marking has three appendages as if it were referencing the Three Fingers. Her taking a stance against the Three Fingers may be how she regards "burning" in general. It's the difference between controlled burning of dead trees, branches, and any other brush, and a wildfire, or "frenzied flame", that burns any and everything that can burn. It's likely why they made it so that the Frenzied Flame harms its wearer.
Snazzy Jovial Wyrm
Snazzy Jovial Wyrm Mês atrás
@DrTrollaux There may actually be a chance that the Frenzied Flame was created specifically by the Greater Will, as a great mistake due to the atrocities that the Golden Order committed to the Albinaurics and the Merchant people. The two fingers and three fingers may have been a one whole hand at one point before they split due to conflicting feelings about the Golden Order, and the three fingers was locked away because it wanted the Golden Order gone, while the Two Fingers wanted it to stay. Thus, the Three Fingers created the Flame of Frenzy to snuff out all life, as it may believe that the Greater Will's ideas and plans would only lead to more pain and suffering for anyone and everyone.
Quazer
Quazer Mês atrás
@QuintaFeira12 And Radagon to 3 with each mother - with Rennala, he had Ranni, Rykard, and Radahn, with Marika, they had Malenia, Miquella, and Melina. The R and M naming is intentional
Yasuke
Yasuke Mês atrás
It took my 2 days to get everything set just to watch this video.. I love the way it’s produced and the content. I wish I could time travel to binge-watch this series like Netflix.
t0lar
t0lar Mês atrás
Something I have always wondered, can “unalloyed gold” be a mistranslation? Gold is a very soft metal, not exactly great for making weapon and armour, if it is truely “unalloyed” it will bend on impact.
RoxxSerm
RoxxSerm Mês atrás
I actually love the story of Malenia and Miquella. I can only hope the DLC revolves more around them/him. For me it always felt like the rot was just a representation of life. Being born, growing, rotting, dying. Just shown and told in a very crass and exaggerated way. Elden Ring really needs more DLCs/games/books/series or whatever. I love souls lore, all of it, but i Elden ring could be the coolest of them all.
Asher
Asher Mês atrás
May wanna put in there when it comes to ranni that her puppet body is most likely made by selivus. I keep seeing people think ranni made her own puppet body when selivus’s job was making the multi armed puppets. It’s a side note in this but a sentence to it would make one thing make more sense to people.
Kevin Catal
Kevin Catal Mês atrás
Let's juke take a moment to thank fromsoftware for delivering another amazing experience both in lore aswell as gameplay.
Kouhai
Kouhai 6 dias atrás
This isn't really important lore-wise, but I find it neat how the Great Runes align based on the parents of their holder. The Great Runes of those related to Godfrey(Morgott, Mohg and Godrick) are centrally aligned. The children of Rennala and Radagon(Radahn and Rykard) have left-aligned Great Runes, and the children of Radagon + Marika(Malenia, Blade of Miquella) have right-aligned Great Runes.
Javi
Javi 25 dias atrás
I'm really hoping/looking forward to seeing more about the Stars/Moon faction in the DLC. It seems to me that wherever Astel and the Fallingstar beasts are from, whatever power the astrologers followed, they are the biggest challengers to the Greater Will. It would explain why arresting the stars was such a big deal, and what it means to do Ranni's ending where it seems like you're setting out to explore outer space. Elden Ring is secretly Mass Effect with glowy alien overlords. Plus I just love the aesthetic of blue space magic.
Alroy Fernandes
Alroy Fernandes Mês atrás
Not sure how many people noticed it but you added the source below which kept changing as you kept narrating the lore. You're truly amazing man :)
Dorkish _
Dorkish _ Mês atrás
So from the sound of it, the Stars knew Ranni's destiny of overthrowing Marika, and therefore the Golden Order. So the star that crashes to the earth and reveals the Enternal City was meant to crash much sooner to assist her in this task. However, due to Radahn's faith in the Erdtree and the Golden Order, he must have conquered the stars to prevent that very thing from occurring. Damn, I fricking love this game's lore lol
Vetzki
Vetzki Mês atrás
@DanteMundus you reminded me that, even +230 hours in, I've been *completely* neglecting the Hill of Swords descriptions. I'll definitely be paying more attention to them now smh.
Restless
Restless Mês atrás
@Stephen Jenkins you call me butthurt over what? Look, i just said radahn failed then you reacted so hurt that you have to bring up an irrelevant person as Ranni in the discussion to cope for Radahn. Then proceeds to accuse me as a Ranni fanboy in the process. Whos butthurt? not me for sure. You are coping hard its hilarious
Stephen Jenkins
Stephen Jenkins Mês atrás
@Restless I rest my case
Restless
Restless Mês atrás
@Stephen Jenkins cope
darknessscythe1
darknessscythe1 Mês atrás
May I recommend including Pidia, Carian Servant and his connection to Sevulis in a future Elden Ring secrets video. Pretty sure info about him would blow a bunch of people's minds. Even those who met him may have not made the connections.
Ben-Tao (Beneton)
Ben-Tao (Beneton) Mês atrás
Watching these lore videos I'm more compelled in playing "Elden Ring". Sadly I couldn't play due to time issues but the lore behind is very interesting and twisted in it's own way.
Knite Jax
Knite Jax 3 dias atrás
You taught me well Vaati Vidya. I loved attempting to find the lore out on my own this time around. My knowledge was no where near everything you have shared, but it was awesome learning what I could and then coming to your videos and being able to go 'Hey! I figured that out too!'
thealphapoodle
thealphapoodle 6 dias atrás
I may be late to the party with this, but having spent more than a week dying to Malenia, I noticed that sometimes, at least in the first phase, she’ll look up at the hole in the Haligtree where we can assume Miquella was before Mogh took him after she kills me, as if she were only just now realising that Miquella is gone. I like to imagine that she started her campaign across the Lands Between in an attempt to establish Miquellas order in the world, and while she was gone, Mogh decided to take Miquella from the Haligtree, where the latter was attempting to cure himself from his curse within the tree. After her battle with Radahn, Malenia was brought to the Haligtree weakened and barely conscious, and until the point where the Tarnished disturbed her rest, she didn’t even realise her brother was gone. Therefore to me, when she says that she awaits his return, she means Miquella‘s return is his return from his own slumber within the Haligtree.
Cameron Tunnell
Cameron Tunnell Mês atrás
Malenia and Miquella were almost certainly born before the shattering, but what if Melina wasn’t? What if Melina was born post-shattering inside the Erdtree? In addition because both known offspring of Marika and Radagon have a curse, perhaps Melina’s curse is her lack of physical form. Her lack of physical form could also explain how she got out of the Erdtree in the first place.
Le Nin
Le Nin Mês atrás
that wouldn't really makes sense since no one can get to marika after the shattering except for radagon who probably didn't want marika to have any more tools against the golden order than she already has
João
João Mês atrás
When Marika shattered the Elden Ring, she was imprisoned inside the Erdtree. How could she give birth when she is being held captive?
ReNixMaR
ReNixMaR Mês atrás
I think melina says that she's been living for a long time and not to feel sorry for her or something
Rozu777
Rozu777 Mês atrás
@Cameron Tunnell If I remember correctly the Gloam-Eyed Queen was also mentioned to be an Empyrean and had her own Fingers. Empyreans seem to be chosen by the Outer Gods more often than born of gods.
Cameron Tunnell
Cameron Tunnell Mês atrás
@Ryan Wartenberg I have a personal theory that Empyrians actually AREN’T just children of Radagon and Merika. I believe that an Empyrian is someone specifically chosen by an outer god, but not necessarily the Greater Will. Ranni is chosen by the Dark Moon, Melina is chosen by the Scarlet Rot, Miquella is chosen by the Formless Mother (and possibly the Greater Will as well, but he forsook that) which is why he was stolen by Mohg.
Evil Shenanigans
Evil Shenanigans Mês atrás
With all these outer gods stuff, it would have been cool to have a ds3 covenant type deal with these gods. Maybe in the future
Eddie Maiden
Eddie Maiden Mês atrás
If From makes miquella into a boss for DLC, I’ll bet his fight would be similar to malenia, where he starts out as a noble, deific figure, and then in his second phase he turns into some horrid abomination due to being around Mohg so long
Uzicarries
Uzicarries 14 dias atrás
@dog No. miquella becoming a boss doesnt make any sense. Not every npc in the game needs to be a boss. Miquella has the body of a 4 year old. In no way is that boss material
dog
dog 14 dias atrás
@Uzicarries yes
Eddie Maiden
Eddie Maiden 19 dias atrás
@Uzicarries understandable, have a great day
Uzicarries
Uzicarries 22 dias atrás
No
Mothman_ Slayer
Mothman_ Slayer 27 dias atrás
I swear the thought process and story telling FromSoftware does is always so amazing and detailed.
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DLTyrus
DLTyrus 10 horas atrás
I think the whole thing about the "fate of the stars" is more literal than it might seem. Ranni wishes to kill the Greater Will and usher in the Age of Stars, and to do so she requires the treasure of Nokron, the Fingerslayer Blade. But she cannot do this because Nokron is inaccessible from Siofra river below, and there's no other known way in. That is, of course, until a meteorite (or a falling star, as they are colloquially known) falls upon Limgrave and blows open a new path. This is fate, in the literal sense of "foretelling the future", because clearly the falling of this comet was foreseen. Perhaps by the Greater Will, if it can see the future, or perhaps simply by the Carians who studied the stars and literally saw the meteor coming. This might explain why Seluvis is the one who knows why it is the killing of Radahn that will unlock the way into Nokron. Radahn ceasing the movement of the stars literally held this meteor shower in place with his gravitational magic, including the one that would fall to the earth. Perhaps he was tasked to this by the Greater Will, which could foresee the chain of events that this meteorite would cause, or perhaps simply to protect the Lands Between from the damage the meteorite could cause. As well as its direct destruction, we also know of many creatures born of meteorites that have wrought havoc upon the Lands Between before, with Astel perhaps being the worst. Radahn may have believed - or been led to believe - that he was protecting the Lands Between from this destruction, when in reality he was protecting the Greater Will from Ranni's betrayal.
ReddCinema
ReddCinema Mês atrás
Amazing video Vaat, u never disappoint! ❤️
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Ethan Gerling
Ethan Gerling Mês atrás
Another great and informative video. Kinda cool to be learning some of this after the fact. Great work bringing all of this lore TOGETHAAA
Affinity
Affinity Mês atrás
The first Omenkiller Rolo taking a physique to rid himself of emotion brings similarities to the Trial of Grasses that Witchers go through.
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