@RICO PARADISE I say this as a Christian, no one ever accepted Christ because of a BRvid comment. Conversion happens when people reach an understanding of their sin and that they need saving. Your best bet for helping them see that is face to face conversation.
@VulcanForge Interestingly, sin just means “to fail” or “miss the mark” so it’s not made up. Unless of course someone is a hardcore postmodern relativist but that’s almost a separate issue.
even better when you can see the bard/thief can always escape from the binds as they could literally just slip their hands out and is just avoiding the fight.
One one hand, this looks amazing. On the other hand, I don't want to give Wizards of the Coast any money after what they tried to do. And no, I don't trust piracy. There's too many virus related risks to do that.
@Bob Benson eOne is the production company of Hasbro, and they're also the production company of this film, so they're getting a lot more than just royalties. Paramount seems to just be the distribution producer, so they're actually getting less of a cut that Hasbro.
@Bob Benson They will be getting royalties because stuff like the red wizard and the logo are copyrighted by Wizards. So I shall not be seeing this film
I'd like to know if Paramount paid up front or Hasbro gets an ongoing cut. If Hasbro got it all up front then boycotting is senseless and definitely would only hurt the production side (actors etc).
@Sam S. What about the female black lead that is so stunning and brave taking on the bad man by her own without the stupid white supremacist male with the small penis.
@Malaficus Shaikan in the first 10 seconds of this clip you see a strong independant woman of color kicking ass while the white man is acting like an idiot, so it's surely woke.
D&D is marketed as a serious high fantasy action/adventure game, but it is plays as a high fantasy comedy with elements of action and drama sprinkled on top.
@Topo Gigio I care about people in the campaign I run actually getting into the role playing a hell of a lot more than I care about them being sticklers about the rules. Rules Nazis make playing the game a bore and a chore. I want the gang to have fun not get hung up on rules and how to exploit them.
Yes! That's what some people critizicing this movie seem to miss. Sure, D&D was written in the books to be "serious", but the community is different, most people play it as a comedy. Old or new to the game, doesn't matter. Most people have played most of their games as goofs.
At the end of the day we want to have fun. Can't have fun if you're too serious. Take it serious enough to have a nice experience, but not so seriously it's work.
Most campaigns I have played have been pretty ludicrous. It's fantasy. Why not have it be bonkers? Real life is already plenty serious. People acting like they are the arbiters of how the game should be played can get bent.
Ah, this takes me back to the year 2000, when Dungeons & Dragons was a cheesy trash bin of a movie, and the OGL was a perpetual license intended to ensure the game would remain in the hands of the community in case corporate assholes wanted to strangle D&D in pursuit of short term profits. Fun times.
I’m so excited to see this movie. I’ve seen the Jeremy Irons movie but that didn’t really feel like D&D. This feels more like it was trying to capture the energy of the players’ personalities bleeding into their characters plus some inclusions of staple monsters like displaced beasts, owlbears, etc.
If you consider silly fun home-brew campaigns I play with my friends to be the "source material" than this looks like the most accurate-to-the-source-material D&D movie ever.
@Bill bob wow, what a subjective view you share here as a rule.. "Most homebrew games are this and that" Well I (and i bet maaany more people) share a different experience. Namely that homebrew games are more flexible and interesting than sticking a 100% to a book. Also a small reminder: Your way of playing is not the ultimate goal or the best way. Everyone seeks something different in a game and that is a good thing
@Bill bob of course l. WotC wants DnD to become like a "real" brand. With recognizable characters and worlds and universe.. they don't care about the game, they care about brand recognition
@ToudaHell Not true at all. Homebrew are usually weak in substance and not taken seriously. Why? Because most GM don't understand rules themselves, so they fake it (homebrew). D&D is the Advanced tier of game, just as AD&D. It is not Basic D&D, which is why it's hard for many people to grasp the rules or remember them.
@Mrsalty101 read any of the dnd novels and tell me its got marvel humor in it, read drizzt, play baldurs gate 1 or 2. the tabletop games are meant to play out similar in tone to that, this is trash
This literally just feels like a marvel movie. ... or do marvel movies just feel like a group of people messing around at a table while one person tries to tell a story?
Wow, this sure does look good! Pity thanks to Cynthia Williams and Chris Cao it's likely to underperform compared to what it could have done. If I were Chris Pine, or all of the actors really, I'd be considering a lawsuit against executives so incredibly bad at very basic aspects of business that they hamstrung a project I put my time and effort into *two months* before it was due to come out. Don't see this. Under any circumstances. The executives behind Wizards and Hasbro right now have to be made to suffer if we want to have a D&D *worth* having in the future.
This could very well be the greatest D&D movie ever made. I mean, it still looks like it could go either way on quality, might be crap. But still, the greatest D&D movie ever made.
Really hoping this movie is good. Last two years been playing a hell of a lot of Arpgs, going back through to bauldurs gate, wasteland, fallout, neverwinter, divinity. All the main titles. So this is absolutely perfect on that note. Also cant go wrong with Michelle Rodriguez as the barbarian. Shes super passionate and a very strong woman. Also beautiful soul, with a mix of chaotic neutral in alignment :P (She doesn't take any crap haha)
I can definitely see a good franchise built around D&D if it appears to be made with as much love and care as this film seems to be, albeit not with a grander mythology being built up like the MCU. Preferably the next installments would be standalone sequels taking place in different realms with a different cast of different characters. Maybe they all take place in the same world, the characters just don't intersect. Who would you like to see in a D&D film?
Given the normalization of D&D as well as the success of shows like TLOVM, I definitely think this movie will be more successful than previous films and I’m overall excited to see it!
Geeze, would love to see this, but Wizards kind of put me in a bad spot and well...I don't wanna support a company with my money if that's all they care about.
It's a shame that Wizards of the Coast decided to attack the gaming industry and their partners by breaking over 20 years of promises about their Open Gaming License. Can't do good things for movie viewing when a significant and vocal portion of your target audience wants nothing to do with anything licensed from Hasbro or Wizards of the Coast. I feel sad for their partners and licensees having to deal with such idiocy. Not to mention the producers, directors, and cast not deserving it. Tortious Interference, anybody? It isn't like Wizards hasn't done this before and didn't know there would be a backlash.
Kind of sad this will most likely be boycotted because the D&D Community is still pissed off at the executives at WotC. So much wonderful work has been done on this!
@khornetto not my intention. Hasbro has 100% screwed up. The only thing the moron executives understand is money so we are hitting it. Making sure their movie flops will hit the executives in the money. That doesn't mean the actors and others wont get hit a bit as well. Unfortunate collateral damage?
@D4l4m4r how brainrot must you be to think that watching a movie os somehow more of a roleplayer thing than protecting the whole rping ecosystem that has been built over 20 years and WotC wants to destroy. Such a roleplayer genius we have here.
This actually looks like something I could get into. It’s just too bad WotC pissed a whole lot of people and publishers off recently by attempting to do the most stupid and money-grubbing thing they possibly could, which could possibly lead to people boycotting this movie in protest - other than that, it might have a chance at the box office
@backcountry164 Hasbro may own WotC, but they are NOT the same exact same entity; They're more like boss and employee, but in this case, its the employee that seems to want to trip up the boss on purpose. Does that make sense??
@JPLOWMAN2 I'm gonna be honest, I tried playing DnD once and it took me, my dad, and my sister 4 hours to kill 3 goblins, and escort a carriage somewhere. And we didn't finish either we had no idea what we were doing. I know nothing about Hasbro or WotC (whatever that means) I just want this movie to succeed because it looks great. Edit: don't fill me in on whatever bad news there is please, I tend to enjoy movies a lot more when I'm oblivious to anything bad with the production company or the actors or whatever.
@WhiteBoy404 I’m not disagreeing with you, but we want the movie to succeed as well, and the whole debacle with the OGL is undoubtedly gonna turn some fans off based on sheer principle. The last thing some more vindictive people will want at the moment is to give WotC more money after trying to nickel-and-dime the DnD community
The more I watch this and read the comments, the more I expect a twist that this is a story within a story of a group of young persons playing a campaign
@storyteller0111 Ohhh gotcha. It's hard to tell what magic user is what class on the screen lmao. Didn't expect Hugh to be a rogue but I won't complain. Thanks for the info
@storyteller0111 I just read up on the lore, and it states Forge Fitzwilliam is the new Lord of Neverwinter, ultimately deposing Dagult Neverember at the end of the 15th century. But according to the lore, Nevember held ultimate autocratic power over Neverwinter as of 1496, so I wonder what’s gonna happen to Neverember during that 4 years gap. I hope this is something the movie will explain
@xDracolich Nah, his name is Forge Fitzwilliam and he's definitely a rogue :) This takes place after Neverember's rule, if I got the implications of some of the directors' comments right.
I'm going to say D&D die hards will be split on it. It will probably make it's money back but I'll be surprised as hell if it turns out to be a major blockbuster. It's giving off some marvel vibes though which isn't a bad thing. The trailer makes it look like the last Netflix Witcher series that bombed so hard it was banned in Hiroshima.
As much as I would want to see the movie, I am not willing to spend any money on it so long as WOTC refuses to keep the original OGLs available to publish existing and NEW material for both 3.5 and 5e. We don't need new game mechanics, we need more detail to flesh out our campaign settings, be that adventures, creatures, magic items, NPCs, spells, traps, etc...
This looks incredible. Feels like a group of people playing a D&D campaign, the jokes are actually funny. When I first heard about this I was like "oh great, this'll be horrible" but after seeing this trailer I'm really excited
@WorkdayFiddle lol thanks for proving my earlier point further. Now go back to the learning tree. Also, you aren't even qualified to talk or teach anyone about cinema comedy. You keep clinging to this theory of me being upset about big mouth, because as a typical troll, you get excitement from such confrontations. I simply showed your flawed response, yet you somehow took that as something positive for your argument, which is the thinnest argument ever made, so congrats? "bro" Lol
@Resul Baggio Well see a normal, mentally sane person wouldn’t get this sad about my slight slandering of bigmouth and sex jokes. Which leads me to believe you love those two things quite dearly. As opposed to you, I know quite well how arguments work. You see arguments are debates. Disputing the facts or thoughts on a matter to prove a point. That is precisely what I have done here today. However in your case, you seem to mostly cling to an Ad Hominem argument style, where instead of making any valid points, your only focus is on comebacks and insults. And they are rather weak comebacks and insults at that.
@Resul Baggio You think your previous response qualifies as “putting someone in their place”? Seriously? Bro that’s just sad. The situation didn’t call for me to say anything clever. I called you out for getting upset about big mouth, then explained cinema comedy to you. No more needed to be said. However I notice that you failed to mention anything about the comedy statement I just made. And so upon being proven wrong with nothing left to say your rebuttal is that? Again, that’s just sad bro.
@WorkdayFiddle and again what does sex jokes have anything to do with this? See, your problem is, you keep assuming shit without having any clue of what i like or don't. First you mentioned big mouth for comparison out of nowhere, and now you talk about sex jokes, which neither of I hinted at. Go back to school, learn how arguments work, then come back and talk. I'm sure, you'll respond to this with another "ohh, you're upset" or "see , you're riled up" elementary level comebacks LMAO
@WorkdayFiddle ah, I see, you're one of those. The ones who revert to "struck a nerve" or "you got riled up" etc for rebuttal when someone puts you in your place because you couldn't come up with something clever to say. Got it. Lol tool
I would love to play D&D with these people.. I played it when it first came out I was13. I still have maps I drew a story you make up a tale and tell it.. Had and played Tomb of Horrors, thief/mage was my best class, the monte Hall was a lot of people having fun Made my own world cities dwarven kingdoms I had already known of lords of the rings the books.. The dragon magazine. Heavy medal magazine.. I like this movie already they fallowed the books very well, The person that made this movie would be a great DM..
@Cameron McEwen the entire rpg ecosystem is gonna take a hit due to Hasbro's greed, not just D&D directly. Also if you dont care about rpgs at all: WotC want to revoke an creative commons style of license that was explicitly perpetual; if thet succeed it has repercussions for any industry with such kinds of licenses and agreements.
@Cameron McEwen If you play the game, the reason it affects you is what's coming. Hasbro hired an ex-Microsoft goon to be CEO of WotC, and in a financial discussion, she claimed that D&D was under monetized, with only 20% of the player base actually spending money. They plan of finding ways to extract money from that other 80%, i.e. the players, who usually don't need anything more than a character sheet and some dice to play. So kneecapping the OGL is the first step in solidifying control over the market so that when they start trying to do stuff like push as many people digital as they can and then pursuing the modern video game paradigm (e.g. microtransactions), no one can pull a Paizo and make the next Pathfinder to compete with their new edition. Basically, if you don't feel like spending substantially more money on the hobby for less substance, this affects you.
It's cool, but, why not include the real-life side of D&D and follow a campaign, putting those players into the characters and switching between 'universes', showing some of the rolls, like bring a real campaign to life. This feels just like another fantasy universe movie franchise set in D&D world, with Guardians of the Galaxy energy.
I was looking forward to this movie - it has Guardians of the Galaxy meets D&D vibes. Then WotC and Hasbro pulled their knavery with the OLG, deflating my enthusiasm. #OpenDnD #OGL #FireChrisCao
@Bottlethrower and that tells me you never even played. The rules are dnd are guidelines at best. It even says this in the books. You can play it to a T or do completely new and different rules. That’s the beauty of it
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Well I was hyped, then I saw those two Magic Missiles miss at 1:57. Good job having the Shield stop the rest of them though, so not a complete failure.
Besides all the DnD stuff, visually, I'm just excited that it looks like we're gonna get an ACTUAL COOL MAGIC BATTLE with cool, definable spells and effects. And not just the "wand go pew pew" laser light show we get so often from 'magic' duels.
DM: Okay, here is the adventure that I've worked so hard on... PCs: We're going to do this instead. DM: But... but... You can't do that! Come back here! Oh, no! This is all getting away from me! PCs: Wheeeee! I'm all in with this movie!
It's like a mix of the last D&D games and Rings Of Power of Amazon, with that "Thor Love And Thunder" touch we like so much (hell they even hired the same actress to play the same role of "empowered ass kicking woman"). I mean... It's perfect. What could go wrong?
@Sylvain Cousineau Been seeing quite a few people going "NOOO! You can't see this movie because WotC suuuuuucks!", Which, I mean they're right in that WotC sucks, but it's still gatekeepy.
