Counter-Strike 2: Moving Beyond Tick Rate 

Community: It feels too smooth, bring back tickrate

​@Mr Catman the tick rate master race

how is this even possible? What is this dark magic sdadasdasd

@Mr Catman fr. This is bound to happen. Some people are never happy with anything💀

It's probably not valve developers but just some stock footage

Giga Chad

One gets tired of dark mode too. Especially in high light areas trying to focus on a dark mode is very painful.

Lmao if you don't use the 2003 Office colour scheme when coding, get outta here

@Sam unlikely, you can read cs go source 2 on one of the programs in the task bar at 0:40, and also there is csgo branded stuff on the table

I’d hope so lol they haven’t done much but rake in cash the last few years

did they actually make this one? or just outsource it again?

@PHF The Ebon Idiot It's not outsource, it's Source 2

Team Fortress 2

Is this pc only?

Nice video

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you funny

You're exaggerating so much. Sub tick updates are great for responsiveness but ticks actually impacting your gameplay was rare. It doesn't change the net code much at all and laggy people will still be laggy. High tick servers were already beyond the point of ticks mattering in real gameplay. It was only low tick servers that had poor gameplay.

@Sammysapphire There are plenty of games that use clientside hit detection and jank to try and even reach a tick rate worth a crap, many if not ALL games will be improved from the rare 'got me through a corner' to like i said games that have to eat a lot of tick rate so they can have bigger maps or something like planetside 2. It can be as big as rollback in a few good cases.

@Over- Clock Oh God, Planetside 2 would definitely benefit from it immensely. I love the game to death but the tick rate can take a nosedive when there's too much going on at once sometimes. Lol

Havent FPS games had actual rollback for well over a decade? Its the reason people with crazy ping jitter around when the movement prediction wasn't accurate to what they actually input instead of just standing still until their packets come through right? All this update does is (from my read of it anyway) is timestamp each action that happens in a tick and then ON-tick it re-runs that sequence of events chronologically instead of evaluating them all at once. I cant imagine this having any noticeable change in feel at all (unless its horribly bad for whatever reason). FPS games dont have the same glaring synchronization issues that fighting games have, this is really just for the most minute discrepancies in competitive environments, its not like this is suddenly making them actually playable like rollback is for a lot of fighting games.

You are indeed lucky, some people have been waiting for source 2 since 2018 or earlier

@prav or 2015

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@Guy yea)

the good ending

​@Memor22 yes not always the good ending 😅

Not with tf2

@OneSaltyBruh nobody cares about tf2

@_ redline you'd be wrong

Now we need Team Fortress 2 2

@Gewel ✔ EXACTLY!

did valve make cs?

@aliendoggy yes

Artifact

Hmm, weird to see a verified person with so little likes. Usually they'd abuse their checkmark to steal comments, get more exposure and scam people.

@Nuts from Berserk that’s only if they bring up tf2

i still fire up 1.6 sometimes lol

Well apparently we have been in Counter-strike 1 this whole time, and will no longer be updating iterations of Counter-strike 1

Csgo not refuses die, die refuses csgo

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@de Same, also many people in Eastern Europe still play CS 1.6 daily

Half Life Alyx

I agree with "Awesome!" Half life alyx is valve technical showcase of their source 2 engine

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@Owen Stockwell omg what just happened when I liked his comment he didin't have that picture 😮😮😮😮😮

like the Half-Life 3 right ? :D

Are you sure Valve done this? HPE made CSGO

like rareware

Artifact comes to mind

Ребята они сделали конфетку.

We will see in the game, but the hopes are high

So no 128 tick rate? We still gonna have 64 with the new update + their new implementation?

@GamingPot did you even watch the video?

@GamingPot xdxd

Not sequel. Just a massive port/update.

Luckily its free lol 😂

I dont know how this works but i'm a web developer and there is a simililar problem and a solution called web socket. Instead of constantly requesting updates (ticks) there is an always open connection and updates get send if they happen. This makes responsiveness much faster and is even less demanding on the connection. If valve is doing something similar then the game experience could be better on server with bad connections.

​@Killerbear02​lmao, web-developer. You working with top-level abstraction of network in js. All online games work on the socket model because for online games important know what changed from last moment. I don't know online games which work with network by open-close connection model, this is worst thing what you can do with online game. Model that based on tickrates it's the same socket model, but it does request to data from client every "1 / . So when you shooting, server based on tickrates saving your data before tickrate and then when tickrate occurs, it sends data to server. They haven't revealed what means sub-tickrate, but based on their words the conception is same as the game works without tickrate.

​​@Killerbear02eb socket is entirely different from sockets being used in games. Yes it does use your typical TCP/UDP fashion but formatted differently, often proprietary. This video kinda misleading because there's no such thing called "sub-tick" in a discrete calculator famously called computer. It still uses 64 ticks. My best guess is that it uses timestamps between ticks, send it to the server, and then the server guesses and validates what happened during the single tick.

​@Maxim9575this. Depends on the game engine, Valve's solution is to use tickeate.

bf2042 also got this much hype too.. just saying

​@Ramble Roodle But Dice has a bad track record.

@Ramble Roodle compares Valve that always appeared to evolve with Electronic Arts?

@HIDARI Lol, Valve is one of the most Respected and community focused companies

you can fix that by creating a word.exe and put some scripts in it

Like thats ever gonna happen

The reason a sniper can shoot the air from an observer's point of view is because from the snipers point of view on his home computer he actually landed the headshot, so the server favors the shooter. I don't quite understand how sub tick rate is going to address this, because you can't make all players have equal latency. If you're playing 1v1 from the USA versus a guy in China there's going to be some delay, from his point of view he successfully juked your crosshairs and made it around the corner, but from your point of view you landed the shot. So how does the server decide if he dies or not?

@EvanEvan i read that with shrek's voice from some reason-

That's more of a lag compensation effect. If you're playing against someone who has much higher ping, you can safely be around a corner on your screen, and still die because when your opponent's shot was registered by the server, you were still away from the corner on their screen. And if that sounds unfair, consider that if your opponent had low ping, they probably still would have shot you in the exact same way from their client's perspective, just a little bit sooner from your perspective, so it doesn't really change the outcome. Without that compensation, i.e. if the server always used your current position for shots without any 'rewind' to compensate other clients, high-ping players would have to lead their shots to counter the latency, which is just impossible. tl;dr It's a mechanic that has to exist to make the game fair regardless of your ping. The game would be enormously biased towards low-ping players without it.

I noticed you made this comment two weeks ago, so you might know by now but audio has been rebalanced as well.

@A plant Ah right - what exactly have they done as far as rebalancing? I don't play but I'm always keen to hear when someone has taken sound latency seriously.

to be honest its nothing exciting.. many years of waiting and game will be the same lmao. only some shadows and better smokes. sad as fuck

@Podróżnik Well and Source 2, so expected better maps, models and modes/mods from it. Given that they did mention they are still doing Hammer 2 stuff for us to try in the previous video.

@Podróżnik ssssshhhhh let the fanboys have some fun while they still can..whales being whales, it's not going to change for better in any future..

@Podróżnik What did you except? Rainbow six counterstrike 2? Of course it is mostly the same

like how they leave team fortress 2 with 0 updates for nearly 5 years then announce an actual update-sized update that's coming around this summer

@megamoondude01 holiday-sized update*

@megamoondude01 but that blog did just come out of nowhere, and now workshop creators are pumping out content like machines

@megamoondude01 sadly the update won't be nothing special

Just like Rockstar Games

THE ONLY REAL FPS SHOOTER! ALL OTHERS ARE COPIES

@dile but tf2 🥺

@SirCat07 valve cant compete with itself)

no one tell dile there were shooters before counter strike

same

what about the halloween masks 🥲

i don't need 9 russian to yell, 4 is already enough...

​@Claes Lanng why not? the more the merrier isn't it? :v

ALWAYS GO WRONG WITH THEM NO ALYX DISKS

I’m still waiting

As a fellow TF2 fan... Might wanna keep your hopes down.

​@Iminumst no keep your hopes high but expectations low

Will have to wait for TF3…good luck

Tf2 is too much of a timeless masterpiece, so we won’t need tf3 until technology is absolutely nothing like right now.

? it has a bit better graphics, 128 tick which is the standard for an fps and they changed the smokes. What is "game changing" in here?

​@Elvis Depresley did you even watch the vid ? This is not 128 tick

@No Meds TV what’s game changing here is they ditched the 128 tick and gone for real time feedback. No delays (so they say) so whatever actions you do is instant.

This literally changes nothing. A new game release to replace the old version. Calm down.

@No Meds TV Valorant player detected

Good explanation, I was confused at first but understand it now

yes yes, everyone watched the video you know

finally, i will know if that CT can see me when i'm on mini :)

Bro its 2023 there are shadows in games chill tf out g

Damn. Props to you for noticing that!

Shadow is quite fucked up tho. The barrel`s shadow on the ground and scope`s shadow on the hand didn`t match the angle, and even further - look at barrel`s shadow, when reloading it just bounces in random directions

Exactly, came looking for this comment lmao

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Damn I didn't know Valve programs their games by Aperture Science logic

what

@Null One Valve IS Apature Science. I own a steam deck and who knows how much neurotoxin is in there

Love this

update olarak çıkar umarım yeni oyun diye çıkarmazlar

unlost the unbeaten

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Naber abi

Artık csgo geçersin abi ?

BR gaming is dead

and now they can understand they have skill issue

tick rate is one thing, ping is the other tho

keep hacks blames back to surface LOL

@Yashma_ so true

It's gonna be a bit difficult since so many people have years of map knowledge and muscle memory built up but just take a gun and shoot shit, it's fun just to jump around and shoot in the game

Perfect for cheating kids and their cheating sponsored "pros" 😆

Maybe even an update

spraying smokes gonna be so disgusting now i pray for nuke outside lurkers

never mind, they do exactly as I suggested lmao

@FX the smoke does fill back up after shooting you can see it in their smoke video on overpass

@Big Nuts does smoke physics work the same in real life ?

Is that really David Bateson?

@Guardian Valor I think so, not sure, he does really sound like him

After reading this, you made him sound like David Bateson I guess 47 already infiltrated Valve

Lmao😂😂😂

Lol thats not same voice actor. Not even close.

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I think it's a given. The UI clearly seems remade specifically to be implemented, they wouln't have bothered to showcase it as gameplay otherwise.

ui look like cross fire, isn't it?

I only dont like the ui ingame, Centered HP and Ammo counters and those cards, seems distracting.

@Kacpa2 It looks distracting at first because its new and you're not used to it. When it sinks into your second nature, you wouldn't want it any other way.

@Kacpa2 csgo has so many commands you will most likely be able to mess around with them

i noticed :)

Isn't that a current feature?

​@Dogman15 only in val, i don't see any of it in csgo

@Putu Tunik in CSGO it's the skulls near ammo count.