Codex Tyranids 10th Edition - Full Rules Review 

Is there no way to just buy rippers separately? I want rippers, but I don't necessarily want gaunts...

@@Bear_Andersen I don't think there will be. Didn't they do the same with Necron Scarab Swarms that you get 1 with the Warriors set, but don't sell them separately?

also really useful if you end up with just 15-30 points left for your list after everything and you happen to have these models around ... take a couple, stick them in your backfield as a screen or reserves just to pop in to deploy a teleport homer

@@businesscasualsauron With necrons you get 3 scarab swarms with a box of warriors, and nurglings are sold on their own

Save them to drop on GSC blips

If they had just costed the phage at around 100pts, the assimilation swarm would sound much much better

I dont understand why tf they would release these new models and then immediately regulate them to the shelf. Its so so stupid/anti marketing. Im half tempted to put mine on a Haruspex base and use it as that because I hate the Haruspex model LMAO

@@Snow-io5sb Both the screamer and phage come within larger sets, so no need to sell more of them (yet)

@@Druzzt exactly my point 🤔 on what universe are the phage (T9, 10W, with D6+1 S6 AP-1 D2 attacks) and hauraspex (T11, 14W with 14 S7 AP-1 D2 AND 4 S14 AP-2, D D6+1 attacks) ever balanced at same points!!!

@@Snow-io5sb because they know leviathan will sell out regardless. by making the leviathan models weaker they also make sure they sell the rest of the models in the tyranid range when those players who bought leviathan get sick of losing.

Y’all just got a bunch of stuff. Never happy

Psychophage?

​@@olegreg4787dude they have a whole detachment dedicated to 4 units no shit they'd want a few more 😭

Also Winged Prime with Regenerating Monstrosity leading a bulky brood of ranged warriors or Gargoyles looks like it could be mean, and Parasitic Biomorphology looks like it was straight up meant for the Parasite of Mortrex.

I'm not even a nids player, but if every codex is getting this sorta treatment, I can't wait.

Preach, glory for the hive mind!!!

👍👍 it just goes on and norn and norn 😄

Well expect it to stop. Now that the reveals are done and the pre releases are out it'll be years before you see any new Nids stuff.

@@AzimuthWingI knew I was gonna see this comment. Literally no reason to be like this

Neurogaunts not being able to give each other synapse feels so dumb as well, as it's the only thing they do q.q

XD Oh my sweet summer child

I was hoping we didn't go towards 36 stratagems per army it's pretty difficult for me to track any of this. Even competitive youtubers are constantly screwing up the rules

@@Rotebeardai think this is actually the right sort of complexity to add to the game. The problem with 9th was having 40 strategems that could be used at all times. This system puts the complexity in armies in list building, but once the game starts, it’s just 6 strats. Any new rule set is going to be confusing at some points, but I think in the long run it will be worth being able to play distinctly different styles with the same range of models. I can see where the difficulty can come from the opponents angle though. It’s gonna be tough for more competitive players to know how to play against 6 variations of 20 armies at the end of the edition.

@appleycider402 honestly they could have made six detachments each with their own strategem for 7 total faction stratagem and an additional enhancement instead of flooding with enhancements and strats

that being said, maybe 'nids are just a 'simple' faction to begin with and this is a bad example. i dont play them, so i wouldnt know either way.

Neurogaunts only get synapse if they are within synapse themselves.

@@SgtDaxThat’s right, totally forgot about that as I run them with Neurotyrant and their ability is all about extending Synapse. Still, would make sense for Neurolictor to have the keyword.

It's an assassin, not a node. It interferes with enemy psychology, not improve your own. Bit of a daft unit really; Lictors were supposed to do that job through demoralisation.

Gotta convince people to buy the new hot stuff! .... Wait, they also released new Lictors? I give up, GW is more inscrutable than Tzeentch after Slaanesh's big coming out party.

Definitely feels like a typo there. Leapers have 6++, Lictors (should) have 5++, Deatleaper/Neurolictors have 4++. It make sense and feels right, and cannot think they purposefully remove the Lictor's ward.

I mean Unending waves is great, bringing back 20 wounds for 2CP sounds fantastic

It would be great if it wasn't so easy to destroy 20 guants.

​@@KnightsofTitanthen whats the point of bringing back d3+3 or two d3+3 in synapse? 10 total gaunts for 1 CP in two seperate units vs 20 back all at once

@scolack123 it's 2cp to bring back 20. And the other difference is that the d3 plus 3 can be added into a trevigons ability as well. And the unit is on the board. Vs the 2cp strat that puts a block of 20 in reserves so your oppent can controll where it comes in on.

What about spending 45 points for 3 units of 1 ripper swarm deep striking turn 2 for those secondaries? Just tuck them where they can’t be seen lol

Relics and Warlord Traits were basically the same, just double dipping. Now they're just called Enhancements.

Relics are enhancements.

Sounds like you've got it.

I don't think they're changed, they've been able to have a cannon for every 3 models since 8th ed.

Also very interested in an answer to this!

It's definitly got a bit of everything, but I'd say either Synaptic Nexus because that feels like it was made for the Neurotyrant. Invasion Fleet also works as just being the most 'generic' of the detachments.

Invasion fleet is your best choice, followed by synaptic nexus. Both give good all round coverage and abilities that buff most or all of the units that come in the leviathan box, and most of the regular codex units in general. Can basically go any direction you want with those two, so pick tyranid units you like the most and go from there.

I have 1380pts (including Leviathan nids) and honestly ALL of the new detatchmenta are great. I could build towards any one of them. I think I’m leaning now towards Synaptic Nexus as my bugs are mostly melee and I like the brainy bois.

Seems like it got replaced with a "Make a new unit" strat

Core rules, page 39, under "Leader": "Each time an attack targets an Attached unit, until the attacking unit has resolved all of its attacks, you must use the Toughness characteristic of the Bodyguard models in that unit, even if a Leader in that unit has a different Toughness characteristic."

So I just read that part you quoted. I would like to clarify some things. While the bodyguard unit is still alive, one is not able to allocate attacks to the leader, and must use the toughness of the bodyguard unit. But when the bodyguard unit is dead, it is no longer an attached unit, and the leader is now being attacked. Now I can allocate attacks to the leader. So does all attacks happen at the same time or not? Lets say I shoot at an attached unit with 1 guy left + the leader. I have 10 s4 shots and 2 s10 shots. I roll all the 10 s4 shots and kill the one guy. I then roll the s10 shots. Will I still use the bodyguard toughness? I dont think that is very clear from just reading that quoted part. I think I've seen others tell me before that we technically roll every attack one by one, and if that is true that paragraph can be interpreted as I said in the first post, no? Another example would be if I have 2 different units shooting at an attached unit. First unit kills the bodyguards. Now the second unit definitely use the leader toughness right?

@@timborna7543 The rules stipulate that the character's toughness matches the bodyguard unit "until the attacking unit has resolved all of its attacks." Thus, if at the beginning o the enemy unit's attack, if there is at least one bodyguard model on the table, the Leader character model has the same toughness as that bodyguard model. After each enemy unit has completed ALL of its attacks, if the bodyguard unit is destroyed and no longer on the table, the Leader Character becomes its own unit and can begin using its own toughness. In the example you quote, as long as the S4 and S10 shots are coming from the same shooting unit, yes, the character retains the bodyguard toughness. What's more, let's say of those 10 S4 attacks, 3 wound the bodyguard-and-leader unit for 1W each, and the bodyguard model has only 2W. IN this instance, you need to roll slowly, because as soon as that bodyguard model is dead, even if there are still more S4 attacks to be allocated, any remaining successful wounds vs the bodyguard T are allocated as wounding hits to the character, which will use the character's save and any feel no pain abilities.

For example, a squad of 10 intercessors fire 9 Bolt Rifles (A2, S4, AP-1, 1W) and a Plasma Pistol (A1, S7/8, AP-2/-3, 1/2W) into a Neurotyrant (T8, W9, Sv4++) and 5 Neurogaunts (T3, W1, Sv6+). Since the bodyguard unit is still intact when the attack is declared, ALL FIRE from this intercessor squad is targeting T3, full stop. 18 shots at 3+ means roughly 12 hits. S4 vs T3 means roughly 8 wounding hits. AP1 negates the Neurogaunts' saves, meaning all five are destroyed, leaving three wounding hits to spill over onto the Neurotyrant. The Neurotyrant now must make three saves at -1AP, presumably using its 4+ invulnerable as opposed to the modified 5+ normal save. Assuming the Neurotyrant lives, the Plasma Pistol now can also fire, STILL USING THE T3 OF THE BODYGUARDS, because when the shooting attack was declared, the Bodyguard unit was still alive and thus the entire unit's T is considered to be 3. Thus, the Plasma Pistol will wound on a 3+ against the Neurotyrant, even though the Plasma Pistol can at best get to a S8, equalling the Neurotyrant's T8, normally calling for a 4+ wound roll. If, after the Intercessors' shooting attacks are completed, then Neurotyrant is still alive, it is now considered to be a Character Unit and uses its Toughness of 8 against any further attacks from different units.

@@AlfredoGarcia-vx3lv Ok, a bit confusing with first same toughness, but different saves. Thank you for the writeup, much appreciated!

You can choose not to move

Same for the Ravener nerf.

Sadly no. That would've been thematic. Raveners got nerfed instead, expectations subverted!

Same my nid player is very hyped

No can do, I'm afraid. Norn Emissary and Norn Assimilator are not characters, so they don't get enhancements. Sorry.

@@Bear_Andersenforgot about that, damn

Emissary does good enough on an objective anyway. 2+/4++/5+++ and OC15

Yeah, they could really use some more bite. 1 or 2 more attacks on each weapon profile would feel more right.

dont think so

That wouldn't really matter regardless since he can just use Epic Challenge from the Core Rules instead. 🤷‍♂

most of the detachments are limiting, Vanguard is easily the best one for Tyranids, the others are just meh

Crusher Stampede is garbage, monsters will do better in almost any other detachment except Unending Swarm. Which is sad and weird.

1 single mine per turn Just 1

And its literally a logistical nightmare to move on the tabletop

If the 9th Ed play testers had spent more time playing and less time leaking, we would be in this mess.

Things should be "dead middle of the road" So we are right where we should be Big teams should be reigned in Weak teams boosted up

You really complaining that you have a 50% win rate, that's the point every army should have a 50% wr that's the goal. Be very happy that you have some great detachments to choose and you aren't one of the many factions with trash win rates

@@danielburks2257 Using competitive placement rankings is not something that I mentioned. I said "middle of the road," not "middle of the pack." Tyranids are Mediocre. They don't do anything well, now that their speed, melee, shooting, toughness, psychic, and even their synapse have all been nerfed to completely unremarkable levels. What do Nids bring that no other faction offers? The answer is nothing. GSC and Guard do better swarm. Daemons do better monsters. 1k Sons and Eldar do better psychic (for all THAT'S worth in 10e.) Virtually everybody does better toughness and shooting. And the codex didn't appreciably improve anything. A handful of models went down by 5 pts. A quarter of the choices got nerfed. None of the new detachments are any better than the already middling default option. And Synapse is STILL the worst, most useless faction special rule in the game. Nobody said "I want my faction to be the top of the top." I just want my faction to be GOOD at SOMETHING. Mediocrity is not something to aspire towards.

@@parzaius9 So you are complaining that the faction that can adapt to any situation in lore is a very versatile force that can be built in many different ways and while not being the "best" at anything can be a jack of trades, tell me if I missed something pretty please

​@@danielburks2257 Why are you bringing up lore? 90% of the 'lore' is just retelling the Horus Heresy for 900 novels and the remaining 10% is just "here's how the humans showed up and won the day." And if you go by the Codex Lore, you're going to be REALLY disappointed by the nids, who outnumber every faction in the galaxy and have weapons that tear apart tanks like wet paper bags. Or how about Nids are "the most adaptable" but their default detachment is "choose one at the start of the game and you're locked in forever" while the marine one is "choose one of three at the start of every turn and just adapt as you like." Expecting the crunch to live up to fluff is a sure recipe for disappointment. As for the game: you can build Nids in a lot of ways, but the vast majority of approaches are going to fail spectacularly thanks to niche rules, puzzling points costs, and stats that haven't kept up with the edition change. And even if you do try to double down on one particular angle of attack, you'll always be inferior to several other factions who do the same thing but better and for cheaper. If you want to be versatile, you actually have to have tools that work for the given task. It's a faction that CAN win, but only by playing towards objectives and scoring points while avoiding meaningful combat. If you ever try to actually FIGHT with your models, you'll find yourself cleaned up pretty easily. Which, you know, if all you want out of a faction is a chance at a W, sure. If you want to actually play the game of "bash your minis against other minis," you're going to be pretty bummed out by how ineffectual everything is.