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American actor Alec Baldwin says he is shocked and saddened after fatally shooting cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza on the set of the Film 'Rust.' Baldwin was told by an on-set weapons expert, a prop gun loaded with live rounds was safe to use. But reports emerging from the New Mexico location, say several crew members had previously walked off the set due to concerns over weapons safety. The assistant director did not know the prop was loaded with live rounds. Baldwin says it was a tragic accident, and that he's cooperating with authorities.
Hutchins was rushed to hospital after being shot in the chest by actor Alec Baldwin - who didn't know the prop gun was loaded with live rounds.
Questions are being raised as to how such an incident was possible. Professionals in the prop industry say strict protocols may not have been followed.
US media is reporting that crew members on the set were complaining about poor safety conditions and long hours. Those workers play a vital role when it comes to prop gun usage.
Baldwin says he is heartbroken, and he will fully cooperate with the police investigation.
Hutchins was known as a rising star in the industry. Directors who worked with her said that she was an incredible talent. She grew up in the Soviet Union and holds Ukrainian citizenship. She leaves behind a husband and a nine year old son.
Authorities say investigations are ongoing and that no charges have been filed.


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Larry Silvestri
Larry Silvestri 2 meses atrás
One of the most unforgettable quotes from my Marine Corps training was, "If Jesus Christ himself hands you a weapon and tells you that it's not loaded, you check it anyway!"
Frank Savasta
Frank Savasta Mês atrás
Amen brother , first rules of gun safety treat every gun as if it’s loaded and check every gun to see if it’s loaded
Intimi Derp
Intimi Derp 2 meses atrás
Bro you don't know him and neither do they to make that statement, here's a quote: Then Jesus *said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword. Matthew 26:52 Salvation is free, Jesus didn't come to condemn but to save and died for our sorry behinds, trust in Him today and you'll be saved.
Johnny Jones
Johnny Jones 2 meses atrás
@advertiseUSA BRvid are criminals themselves.God forbid you speak the truth.
Johnny Jones
Johnny Jones 2 meses atrás
Yes sir absolutely correct...If Hollywood want you dead your dead...Rip Brandon Lee...
Joe B
Joe B 2 meses atrás
@Adorable Girl 15 "supposed to be" being key phrase. When dealing with weapon, never assume. It's the responsibility of the crew member and operator to check.
Cristina V.
Cristina V. 2 meses atrás
Big “accidents” like this one don’t come out of nowhere. They’re often preceded by many smaller warnings.
Fernando António
Fernando António 11 dias atrás
" Accidentally" pointing to a person and triggering is a different "story". He pointed firstly or triggered in second place? If I was working for MSNBC or NYorkTimes I would say unexpected wind affected the trajectory but...is extremely important to find out what happened. Firstly, the gun pointing or "a" person triggering? Wind can change the events including a probability of a third person that touched the pistol after the trigger but before the bullet is in the air. This is the perspective what Whoopi or Lemon can think of.
Nazri Buang
Nazri Buang 2 meses atrás
Lies again? Sabotage Gun
reuk
reuk 2 meses atrás
The Heinrich's Incident Pyramid explained this decades ago
Angie G
Angie G 2 meses atrás
Like the three warning shots prior to this incident? Yeah, I agree.
Teutone
Teutone 2 meses atrás
Live rounds?! Well, no wonder then, that's wildly unsafe and even irresponsible.
Hana Brynda
Hana Brynda 2 meses atrás
@Jon Smyth typical Baldwin
Hana Brynda
Hana Brynda 2 meses atrás
@Canadian Nomad I see it diff way if you drive car but drunk and kill somebody that’s not accident that’s more likely scenario because of all he mess on and off set circumstances and he was producer he knew what’s happening Hire AD with bad reputation same for armorer almost all like on purpose to many coincidences 😱 if there was script calling for gun used towards camera with crew behind than it wouldn’t be practicing and crew would be protected a armorer would be there on set
Silvia Suppo
Silvia Suppo 2 meses atrás
@Crus Harold in theory he was aiming at the camera for a close up and a shot went off by accident while he was rehearsing the scene. since he is a producer he is probably responsible about general safety if he didn't act upon the complaints, but that is as far as it goes for him. that specific gun was not his responsibility, he was an actor and he was given a cold gun.
Silvia Suppo
Silvia Suppo 2 meses atrás
@Crus Harold he is an actor, it's not his job to check the gun once they tell him it's a cold one! he was aiming the camera, as he was instructed! he is a victim himself.
Jon Smyth
Jon Smyth 2 meses atrás
@Robert Sommerseth Something is definitely of the tracks here. I noticed he took responsibility right away by assuring us it wasn't his fault....typical democrat.
Sascha
Sascha 2 meses atrás
So heartbreaking, shocking and awful for all concerned. So terribly saddening.
Westerling
Westerling 2 meses atrás
Meg
Erik Smith
Erik Smith 2 meses atrás
Long working hours, accidental discharges, and 50-mile commutes did not cause the bullet to get into the gun. The only relevant questions right now are: What was the gun's chain of custody (who had it first, second, third...)? And was that the proper procedure on a movie set? Only after investigating those questions can one determine who is liable for the death and injury and how it happened. If the chain of custody was broken or unknown, then could the person who placed the bullet in the gun be among the people who had left the set?
It’s not Me
It’s not Me 2 meses atrás
Big accidents and incidents are always proceeded by smaller ones. The signs were ignored. This was the outcome
Vanessa Williams
Vanessa Williams 2 meses atrás
Trifling... and they shifting the blame on everyone but the SHOOTER ...!!!👀👀
Travel with Tony
Travel with Tony 2 meses atrás
@Gurn Blanston Now you got all the leftists triggered. 👏👏
Travel with Tony
Travel with Tony 2 meses atrás
Baldwin had an obligation to check the weapon before using it…that is fundamental to gun safety, obviously he felt too important to follow protocols because you know, he’s a big star! I hope the impending civil suit leaves him penniless.
Gurn Blanston
Gurn Blanston 2 meses atrás
There is no such thing as an "accidental discharge". It was a negligent discharge. And the chain of custody is irrelevant- once the gun was in Baldwin's hand, he became 100% responsible for it's safety. But Baldwin chose to ignore all four of the four basic rules of firearms safety, pointed a firearm at innocent human life, and intentionally pulled the trigger.
miriamspandereta
miriamspandereta 2 meses atrás
Such a tragedy. Why on earth did they have live rounds on a set?! Plus, treat all guns as though they are loaded. 2)Keep it pointed in a safe direction. And ALWAYS check the gun to make sure there’s nothing in the chamber or the magazine. Prop master, Baldwin, and anyone else who may have touched the gun share responsibility for this.
Fernando António
Fernando António 11 dias atrás
Wrong! The comedian never had guns and unaware that the trigger can cause a metal object being discharged. Very simple, this was just lack of knowledge . If I was his lawyer too easy to defend him. Where is the pistol's leaflet of instructions warning of not triggering or ponting? Critical to read the instructions. No instructions it means the manufacturer is in trouble
ALS News Now!
ALS News Now! Mês atrás
@Nihal The exact same way that YOU or I would easily be held responsible for driving a car that COULD kill somebody and is always supposed to be on the road.... but instead we steer it off the road and kill somebody. Help?
Margaret Reeder
Margaret Reeder 2 meses atrás
Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought a prop master or armorer must check the gun and then place that gun directly from his or her hand into the actor's hand announcing the weapon safe and then the actor should never point the gun directly at another human being - the angle of fire should always be clear of another person - because there exists technology to make it look direct on film. So, I don't understand an AD instead of a prop master or armorer placing the gun in an actor's hand and I don't understand why two persons were in the line of fire when the gun should have been aimed away from any persons.
Taylor Craven
Taylor Craven 2 meses atrás
Because the first rule of handling any gun is to check if it's loaded. You should learn some gun safety.
Sim Salabim
Sim Salabim 2 meses atrás
@Nihal He is holding a real gun and shooting it. By law you are responsible.
E Randco
E Randco 2 meses atrás
Some thing never change. There’s no excuse for something like this to happen. There should be criminal and civil charges. No idea why a live round would be anywhere on set ever.
Den Van
Den Van 2 meses atrás
Alex Baldwin‘s stunt double was handed a gun a few days earlier and told it was empty; the man pulled the trigger and fired two live rounds. It also happened on a previous occasion during the production. Alec Baldwin‘s reaction couldn’t be “How did this happen?“ but “Oops, it happened again.”
Den Van
Den Van 2 meses atrás
@Lisa A. on the subject of being shunned: my cousin has an advertising agency and he dealt with Jesse James of _West Coast Choppers_ Fame; branding, merchandising and such. They had a robust business partnership, then Jesse James kind of ghosted away. When Jesse James was involved in some sort of scandal my cousin started getting all sorts of texts from him. My cousin explain to me what was going on: nobody was publicly denouncing Jesse James but everyone was giving him the silent treatment. “He’s reaching out to me,“ my cousin said, “because everyone else has dropped him. He’s sending me messages like ‘hey, bro, what’s up? Let’s get together.’ I’m not responding. He’s looking for somebody to pull into the mess he’s in.” This is probably what’s happening to Alec Baldwin; radio silence from his former hangers-on.
Lisa A.
Lisa A. 2 meses atrás
@Den Van He didn't look "heartbroken" when he went out with his family in some "secluded town" for pizza. The man should be shunned- isn't that what he always wanted? Actually, his massive ego wouldn't tolerate this for long. Even SNL should shun him after what happened. I doubt he will admit his mistakes and make some sort of atonement. That would be the actions of a real man with a heart and balls, neither of which he has, so he should just be shunned. Remember how he abused his own daughter over the phone? Well, it went downhill from there...
Den Van
Den Van 2 meses atrás
@Dave Smith yes, Alec Baldwin is calling on all his skills as an actor to appeal to the court of public opinion. Baldwin is in tears.“ “Alec Baldwin appears distraught in front of police station.“ “Alec Baldwin is heartbroken.“ Who is Alec Baldwin reaches out to offer aid to husband of Halyna Hutchins.” The headlines are not “Alec Baldwin violates safety protocols.” “Alec Baldwin ignores safety rules, kills mother of nine-year-old boy.”
Dave Smith
Dave Smith 2 meses atrás
Alec Baldwin is an actor, I'm surprised no one in media caught that he is literally faking remorse in order to avoid criminal prosecution.
Rob yN
Rob yN 2 meses atrás
Sounds like all the safety protocols were broken.
graciegjj
graciegjj 2 meses atrás
Saving money for capitalism
yesterdays fool
yesterdays fool 2 meses atrás
@Gurn Blanston Well, it's all come down to uninformed assumptions really for folks like us. Mine in baldwin's position would have been that movie props don't pose any danger, and that acted realism is good for the show.
Gurn Blanston
Gurn Blanston 2 meses atrás
@yesterdays fool No, that's not the question. The question, is why did Baldwin choose to ignore all four of the four basic rules of firearms safety, point a firearm at innocent human life, and intentionally pull the trigger?
Doc Austin
Doc Austin 2 meses atrás
@John Dunn Great. We agree.
Doc Austin
Doc Austin 2 meses atrás
@John Dunn The ones they ignored.
cabanford
cabanford 2 meses atrás
Strict protocols might not have been followed. Ya think?!
Fernando António
Fernando António 2 meses atrás
so..the protocol...is wrong?
Cristina V.
Cristina V. 2 meses atrás
@Omzziel MeZar it’s still an accident. But certainly a preventable accident, made possible by negligence.
Omzziel MeZar
Omzziel MeZar 2 meses atrás
Might not have been an accident….?
Tom Miller
Tom Miller 2 meses atrás
What were live rounds on the set for? Who would bring them to the site, let alone load a weapon for "safe" action. One simple lesson - Never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill. Point it at a camera for recording but insist no one is in that line of fire.
Vance Riddle
Vance Riddle 2 meses atrás
@davidsirmons exactly what I was thinking. How do you shoot 2 people by accident?
00gyb00gy
00gyb00gy 2 meses atrás
@Garrett C. Phillips Incorrect AGAIN. You sound like this gun loving nerd at work that doesn't understand basic gun laws because he grew up around guns. Every instance a firearm went wrong on set they didn't do their job... Except they didn't have standards like that until things went wrong, captain hindsight. That man accidentally Russian rouletted himself on a set. That other guy had something lodged in the barrel that was ejected when a blank was used. Accidents happen. Which leads to more stringent regulations. Cry some more.
00gyb00gy
00gyb00gy 2 meses atrás
@Garrett C. Phillips incorrect. Prop means used on a film set. A prop gun CAN be a real gun. Learn how to read? Also THIS VERY VIDEO GOES OVER THIS.
Garrett C. Phillips
Garrett C. Phillips 2 meses atrás
@00gyb00gy yes, it’s can’t. in every instance a firearm went wrong on set (very few) the persons or persons didn’t do their job. Why gun has never killed anyone because I handle it properly. It won’t just magically kill someone unless I pull the trigger
Garrett C. Phillips
Garrett C. Phillips 2 meses atrás
@MarcosElMalo2 one shot. Went through the DP
beaney56
beaney56 2 meses atrás
There are no "accidents" when it comes to workplace safety. There are only broken safety rules.
Zuul Gatekeeper
Zuul Gatekeeper 2 meses atrás
Wasn't a prop gun it was real & also wasn't a misfire the real gun fired perfectly when it was loaded with live ammo. As to why a real gun was being used ask the films producer they hired the crew including a cheap inexperienced armorer who had a total of zero films under their belt. Despite a number of firearm scares on set including another instance live rounds were discharged from a supposedly cold gun days before that Producer pressed ahead with filming & the producers name that would be Alex Baldwin.
A. A.
A. A. 2 meses atrás
1.Why was there live ammo there? 2. Where was armorer during the gun handover. 3. Why did he aim at the girl? 4. Why did the AD/AP say it was a cold gun? Did he get a confirmation from armorer?
SciCurious
SciCurious 2 meses atrás
Standard protocols also stipulate a 1” Lexan shield in front of the camera, which is adequate to stop a 9mm round. It would have saved the cinematographer, and as a producer Baldwin was responsible for ensuring safety protocols were followed. The first thing you learn in basic and safety is that you are morally and ethically responsible for every round that leaves your gun, no exceptions. The second is that all guns are always loaded. Always, never assume otherwise. Third is that you never point a gun at a person unless your life is threatened and lethal force is imminently necessary. With all of the movies and TV programs Baldwin has appeared in common he’s heard those instructions at least once and probably dozens upon dozens of times.
Missie Messoud
Missie Messoud 2 meses atrás
nothing to say other than our hearts go to you those who lost their loved one to this unfortunate incident. Same goes to anyone in grief. Please call someone, text them use an online chat or call the many centers out there your not alone.
Casual Gamer
Casual Gamer 2 meses atrás
A tragedy is when a volcano spews lava, not this. Live rounds in real guns on a movie set and complete lack of safety protocols means one or more people messed up and need to be prosecuted. Oh this is so unfortunate, just an honest mistake etc are no excuse.
V. Dargain
V. Dargain 2 meses atrás
This not an HONEST mistake .
Angie G
Angie G 2 meses atrás
Exactly. Can’t control Mother Nature but this was 100% preventable even with authentic props.,
Metonymy1979
Metonymy1979 2 meses atrás
How were any live bullets on a set? The prop master is supposed take out and put in the bullets in front of the actor before anything happens. Someone needs to pay for this.
hizzle mobizzle
hizzle mobizzle 2 meses atrás
@dolly parton’s hype man agree
dolly parton’s hype man
@hizzle mobizzle they were rehearsing a scene and setting up angles for a specific shot. that’s when it happened. many news outlets have reported this. alec was also specifically told it was not loaded. why he didn’t check himself i’m not sure, but something went horribly wrong with the chain of command
dolly parton’s hype man
@🅰m𝖔𝖗𝖆』ק ђ ཞ イ4Ⓞℤ if someone is hired and paid to do that specific job of handling and checking the guns, alec is not solely responsible. the chain of command has to take accountability.
Gurn Blanston
Gurn Blanston 2 meses atrás
@Matt Pet He can pay a thousand people to check it beforehand, but once the gun was in his hand, Baldwin became 100% responsible for it's safety. Baldwin chose to ignore all four of the four basic rules of firearms safety, pointed a firearm at innocent human life, and intentionally pulled the trigger.
Qotroz
Qotroz 2 meses atrás
@Unlucky Irish Lol 😄 Thanks man, I appreciate it. Take care of yourself and keep doing what you are doing. 👍🏻
Sea Cake
Sea Cake 2 meses atrás
I watched John Wick movies from the first one to the 3rd chapter, lots of gunfights, actors were trained to use real weapons and incredibly choreographed gunfights, and yet they had zero irl casualties from gun related accidents. This production crew have zero excuses for this lapse of safety.
A. A.
A. A. 2 meses atrás
John Wick was all CGI.
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
@MarcosElMalo2 HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
StellarJones
StellarJones 2 meses atrás
If you look closely and John Wick movies, they use CGI on gunfires.
MarcosElMalo2
MarcosElMalo2 2 meses atrás
@Brandon Wheaton It’s possible, although it’s highly doubtful he’d be involved with practical production, running the set, hiring the crew. When an actor is involved as a producer, it might be a vanity credit, because they were involved in development, or because they helped raise funding. It might be how their deal was constructed to participate in profits in addition to salary-big name actors might take a cut in their regular rate, gambling that the project will eventually make a lot of money.
zapfanzapfan
zapfanzapfan 2 meses atrás
For everyone wondering why not another actor got shot: You know when you see a gun man in a movie shooting at you? Well, that means the actor is shooting at the camera, where the cinematographer sits.
Charm Phear
Charm Phear 2 meses atrás
Cameras weren't rolling at the time
radred609
radred609 2 meses atrás
​@Lazarus Bigface Turns out i misread the article. They were *rehersing* and there was no mention of whether the clothes handed over to police were costume or not.
Lazarus Bigface
Lazarus Bigface 2 meses atrás
@radred609 That photo is of him making the 911 call. FAIL
radred609
radred609 2 meses atrás
@Lazarus Bigface they were filming. Baldwin changed out of his costume and handed it over to forensics because it had blood on it.
Stu Glenn
Stu Glenn 2 meses atrás
@Angie G Very few people are claiming this is 1st degree murder. But it's clearly a negligent homicide.
Pooja Fauzi Alagan
Pooja Fauzi Alagan 2 meses atrás
Apparently, it happened three times (the same gun misfired earlier and last weekend the prop gun discharged live rounds) some crews walked out due to safety concerns just hours before the fatal incident. (CNN)
Dave Smith
Dave Smith 2 meses atrás
@OgamiItto70 Agreed. That made me incredibly confused for a second, then I just assumed they were using weird definitions.
OgamiItto70
OgamiItto70 2 meses atrás
@Pooja Fauzi Alagan My criticisms weren't directed at you, but rather the media people who can't seem to use terminology correctly. Then their flawed presentations and the flawed logic that they engender get out onto the public consciousness and cause flawed "solutions" to problems poorly understood. I apologize if my post seemed to be directed against you. Such was not my intent. So far the "news" media have dropped the ball on what constitutes a "prop gun," what a "misfire" is (compared to an accidental or negligent discharge), and what safety protocols are used on movie and television show sets to prevent just such a tragedy from occurring. And this is hardly the first time that these so-called journalists have majorly screwed up the facts of a story, hence the "again."
Stu Glenn
Stu Glenn 2 meses atrás
The correct terms. Gun doesn't fire when you pull the trigger= Misfire. Gun goes off when you didn't intent it to= Negligent Discharge. Sounds like they actually had several negligent discharges on the set.
Pooja Fauzi Alagan
Pooja Fauzi Alagan 2 meses atrás
And you're saying "again"...it's my first time commenting on this event. What is your problem? Can't you criticize properly?Dck!
Pooja Fauzi Alagan
Pooja Fauzi Alagan 2 meses atrás
@Noble Hill thx for correcting me. It was a scene where he had to shoot in the direction of the camera
Framani
Framani 2 meses atrás
What I don't get is why would they use live rounds in a prop gun?!!!
The Micropenis Maniac
The Micropenis Maniac 2 meses atrás
Because it was not a prop gun, prop guns are props, they don’t fire, and they often don’t have a trigger, this was a real gun that was meant to be loaded with blanks (which are still deadly), which after repeated failures of safety protocols, was loaded with a live round (this happened before on set, and actor was handed a gun he was told was empty, but he pulled the trigger and fired two live rounds, which thankfully didn’t hit anyone)
Daniel CH
Daniel CH 2 meses atrás
@davidsirmons he didn't point it at anybody. At first when I heard of it, since it was the cinematographer and director that was shot, I thought it was because they were standing at the camera, trying to point the camera down the barrel of the gun. Later it emerged that the accident happended during down time, when the camera was not rolling. Baldwin was practicing quick draw when it went off. And why was he practicing with a loaded gun? When Hall gave him the gun, he said it was empty. Shouldn't he have checked himself that the gun wasn't loaded? I don't know how things work on movie sets. But the people saying this are the same one arguing against compulsory training BEFORE anybody is allowed to buy guns. Why were there live rounds on the set? Well, it wasn't a gun free zone. Some of the crew enjoyed shooting at tumbleweeds when they didn't have anything to do. I seriously doubt if any of the people saying live rounds shouldn't be on set would be very happy if all movie sets were suddenly declared gun free zones except for the few the armourer have under lock and key. Walk through a metal detector. Go through a pat down. Empty out the contents of your purse and pockets to make sure nobody forgets and brings in a live round. These are what their _nightmares_ are made of.
Robert Larue
Robert Larue 2 meses atrás
A prop gun is merely an imitation gun made of plastic, rubber etc and definitely can't fire any cartridges
Eddie M.
Eddie M. 2 meses atrás
I read on the interweb that the guns had been used for target practice (live rounds) prior to this event. Somehow, a live round was left in the in a weapon, poor safety protocols. But it's Alec Baldwin, he hates Pres. Trump so no problem.....
Kevin Fidler
Kevin Fidler 2 meses atrás
@Pop Off well again it was something I heard in a video, thing with liberals is they're good for "rules for thee, but not for me". So it made me wonder if that was true
The Macrobian Nomad
The Macrobian Nomad 2 meses atrás
It was most definitely a Close Up scene for the cinematographer and the director to both be there in such close proximity.
The Macrobian Nomad
The Macrobian Nomad 2 meses atrás
@John D you're arguing with a strawman, I am only giving an opinion as to why the director and the cinematographer would both be present, I work in film dinlo. Nonetheless, you can make films with better gun safety and handling like we do it here in France. Peace ✌️
The Macrobian Nomad
The Macrobian Nomad 2 meses atrás
@MarcosElMalo2 was it the live round or a blank? They said gun contained both and assumed to be a "cold gun" in the documents obtained after the search warrant.
MarcosElMalo2
MarcosElMalo2 2 meses atrás
@Jenny Mulinaro I don’t think 20’ would have made a difference with a live round.
MarcosElMalo2
MarcosElMalo2 2 meses atrás
Or a steadycam, handheld, or dolly shot. That said, aesthetic choices should never take priority over safety. If the shot is going to be unsafe, find a different way to do it.
Jenny Mulinaro
Jenny Mulinaro 2 meses atrás
I believe crew members are supposed to be at least 20 ft away from a prop gun while being handled on set. Even if they were trying to get a close shot, they shouldn’t have been right behind the camera. Negligence all around.
ih8mcfly
ih8mcfly 2 meses atrás
That’s why in all my films, my actors only use their thumb , index and middle finger to form a shape of a gun, and they make sounds from their mouth. Zero deaths or injuries.
hdonstraight
hdonstraight 2 meses atrás
Lol
Michael Shubr
Michael Shubr 2 meses atrás
If they want to pass a law: every actor should have to check his own firearm after receiving it from another person, so there is redundancy!
Manfrom Meeteetse
Manfrom Meeteetse 2 meses atrás
99 out of 100 actors could not tell what kind of ammo a gun was loaded(or not loaded)with.
Helen Pauls
Helen Pauls 2 meses atrás
Or better still, just dummy guns and cgi it.
Aussie Hero
Aussie Hero 2 meses atrás
I’m guessing it comes down to lack of communication and with guns everyone should follow safety checks.
Давран С
Давран С 2 meses atrás
so heartbreaking , seems unsafe measures must not have taken
Petro Kitsul
Petro Kitsul 2 meses atrás
Wow, Rest In Peace. Such a tragedy :(
ReelZinx
ReelZinx Mês atrás
classic alec baldwin
Taylor Craven
Taylor Craven 2 meses atrás
Three people are responsible for this: all three who touched this gun should have checked if it were loaded. We need more gun 3ducation, rather than hysteria.
The Micropenis Maniac
The Micropenis Maniac 2 meses atrás
Alec fires the guy that was supposed to check if it was loaded, so yeah, he’s solely at fault
DannyDraco
DannyDraco 2 meses atrás
@Gurn Blanston but then again if he’s instructed not to check then why should he
DannyDraco
DannyDraco 2 meses atrás
@Gurn Blanston I mean if I was a Anti gun advocate actor who knows nothing about firearms then ya I prob would
Gurn Blanston
Gurn Blanston 2 meses atrás
@DannyDraco The "entertainment industry" does not exist in some alternate dimension where firearms safety rules don't apply. If you were in "the entertainment industry", and a hired gun-checker handed you a real firearm and told you it was empty, would you be willing to put it to your head and pull the trigger without checking it yourself?
DannyDraco
DannyDraco 2 meses atrás
@Gurn Blanston it is in English you head a$$
Simon
Simon 2 meses atrás
Both Baldvin, and the armorer is to blame and should be charged. Actors that use guns in movies should also get basic weapons safety training. All the people that were target practising hours before on a movie set should never be allowed to be on a movie set again.
scott b
scott b 2 meses atrás
"How do prop guns become deadly?" Stop calling real guns props! "Prop guns" are not capable of firing real ammunition. I guess when you don't know the difference between a "prop" and a real gun, that's where the trouble starts. When you think your "gun vallet" is responsible for checking a deadly weapon for you, there's a problem. Had everyone who took possession of that gun checked it, INCLUDING Baldwin, this would not have happened. When actors depend on others, not their own due diligence, there's a problem. Baldwin was not a child being handed a "safe" toy to play with by his mommy! He is a grown man responsible for his actions or inactions- including not checking weapons himself.
Turn the Page
Turn the Page 2 meses atrás
This guy knows what he's doing. Should have paid to have the right people involved.
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
marton titi
marton titi 2 meses atrás
@Luminous Fractal bro how do you know all the info lol
Lighthouse
Lighthouse 2 meses atrás
Alec against guns. But creates a unsafe movie set. How old this cheap M*F*
Luminous Fractal
Luminous Fractal 2 meses atrás
theyre all hiring cheap labour atm. favours for friends etc. producers and directors arent willing to take the pay cuts themselves. passing it on to the crews. also theyre vastly overworking them, not feeding them properly. and working them by phone and computer when theyre not on set. some of the jobs see them with only 2hours sleep a night if that.
Kevin Goohs
Kevin Goohs 2 meses atrás
With ALL of those steps on safety, clearly they must not have been following protocol.
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
@Angie G HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS.... AND ....ALIC IS AN EXTREME HATER OF TRUMP
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
@Captain Crunch HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS 🤫
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS...AND THEIR FOUNDATION'S 🤫
Angie G
Angie G 2 meses atrás
There will be involuntary manslaughter charges no doubt.
Captain Crunch
Captain Crunch 2 meses atrás
I bet they were behind schedule and pushing for time. Lots of people screwed up here. There will be a settlement and no other prosecution sadly
Cheyenne Tiera
Cheyenne Tiera 2 meses atrás
THE LEVEL OF WRECKLESSNESS IN THESE TIMES IS OFF THE CHARTS. I LIVE NEAR SANTA FE. IM ANGRY AND HEARTBROKEN. 💔💔💔💔💔💔
TobaccoRowe
TobaccoRowe 2 meses atrás
Any Gun With A Live Round In It Is Not A Prop Gun, It Is A Loaded Weapon. NOT A PROP !!!
TobaccoRowe
TobaccoRowe 2 meses atrás
@The Micropenis Maniac Prop is short for Property and anything can be property. You may want to look at the example of Alec Baldwin shooting a camera man on the set of Rust. They can be real guns that can and do kill people. I bet you grew up in the city huh ?
The Micropenis Maniac
The Micropenis Maniac 2 meses atrás
A prop gun isn’t even able to fire, guns loaded with blanks are still deadly
Catholic 3 DOD
Catholic 3 DOD 2 meses atrás
👍 but why did he point at the two persons?
JESSICA B.
JESSICA B. 2 meses atrás
Great statement! Such a Good CLARITY 👍🏻
J Stone
J Stone 2 meses atrás
Did poorly trained prop assistants contribute to this tragedy? Union industrial action had occurred at the same time, based around poor working conditions and safety concerns. Were time schedules and cost-cutting a contributing factor? Condolences and prayers to the victim and her loved ones. An unnecessary tragedy.
Maximilian Mustermann
Maximilian Mustermann 2 meses atrás
@Sara Mill Well, he wasn't officially in charge of guns because that is so far against any safety regulations, he usually be fired on the spot if he even touched the prop guns. But apparently, the armorer was nowhere to be found (maybe hiding somewhere crying because she realized just because daddy gave her this job doesn't mean that she can do it)
Sara Mill
Sara Mill 2 meses atrás
reported the assistant director was in charge of guns...should have been a gun expert
JONESY rugbyCHAPELHILL69
The equity hire armorer, she said: "You know, like, I was really nervous about the, you know, blank rounds, but then after 3 accidental shootings, like, I began to feel confident."
ad stix
ad stix 2 meses atrás
Why on earth would live loaded guns be used on a film set????!!!!
TelephoneToughGuy
TelephoneToughGuy 2 meses atrás
@TJ Marx: Just to clarify: *Before* this video was posted, on October 22nd, the police stated that there *was* a live round on set. You can look it up. Reuters reported it, it's available (posting the link would get my message removed by youtube algorithm). Yet, in the comment section of this video, posted October 23rd, you say "No one has said there was a live round on set." My question to you is this: Can you admit to making a mistake?
TelephoneToughGuy
TelephoneToughGuy 2 meses atrás
@TJ Marx : Yes, it is. Literally the police released a statement on the day *before* this video was posted that there were live rounds, yet you maintain that you were correct in saying that "No one said there was a live round." Doubling down on your false statement makes you look like a fool.
TJ Marx
TJ Marx 2 meses atrás
@TelephoneToughGuy This is getting pathetic.
TelephoneToughGuy
TelephoneToughGuy 2 meses atrás
@TJ Marx : This was also reported the day *before* this video was posted. Apparently, the police released a statement *saying* that it was a live round on set. "SANTA FE, N.M., Oct 22 (Reuters) - Alec Baldwin was handed what was described as a safe "cold gun" on the set of his movie "Rust", but the prop gun contained *live* *rounds* when it was fired, according to details of the police investigation into the fatal shooting released on Friday."
TelephoneToughGuy
TelephoneToughGuy 2 meses atrás
@TJ Marx : Are you really that thick? The statement from the Union was reported the day *before* this video was posted. Thus, your comment was false *when* you said it.
Paul brungardt
Paul brungardt 2 meses atrás
First check a gun to see if it were loaded. If loaded..unload it. Proceeding from that point, treat gun as if it were loaded. Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy. Know what is beyond your target (backstop). He was criminally negligent. He pointed a gun at a person. He did not check the gun handed him. He pulled the trigger. He killed her. Criminally negligent homicide.
Larry Funnelcake
Larry Funnelcake 2 meses atrás
Just thinking to myself in front of the world, I have always been taught to treat EVERY GUN as if it were loaded and even then never to point it at anyone. I understand the cameras weren't even rolling, even if filming a movie is a good reason to point a gun at someone then why when the camera wasn't even on? In their little world of pretend aiming even took place. It all seems brainless!!
el piggy
el piggy 2 meses atrás
she was not an actor, why has he fired on her?
Noella Rash
Noella Rash 2 meses atrás
Good question… why would he fire at her, if she wasn’t one of the actors? Strange
Huey
Huey 2 meses atrás
@Eliz White What he is saying is not true, and hes's repeating it on every comment. When you see those type of shots angles are being used to give off the illusion that its aimed at the camera, also camera's not operated by a human are used. You can verify this with a simple google search, heck even in this incident the experts are confused as to how this could have even occurred, as there should have been no reason literally at all for him to be aiming directly at her.
Daniel Howell
Daniel Howell 2 meses atrás
Murder. She was carrying his love child.
Eliz White
Eliz White 2 meses atrás
@zapfanzapfan It must be a scene where an actor shoots at the camera (and the audience) if I see a movie when a gun is aiming at me, and I am sitting in the audience, I really don't appreciate it.
zapfanzapfan
zapfanzapfan 2 meses atrás
You know when you see a gun man in a movie shooting at you? Well, that means the actor is shooting at the camera, where the cinematographer and the director sits...
skyak
skyak 2 meses atrás
All the sources fail to answer the obvious question- why would there be a live round on a set?
TJ Marx
TJ Marx 2 meses atrás
@V. Dargain There is nothing to suggest a live round was on set. Clearly you did not watch the whole video
V. Dargain
V. Dargain 2 meses atrás
Good question . I heard live round on a movie set are forbidden . Is this true ? Maybe they should make it against the law anyone to have a gun there , except security .
TJ Marx
TJ Marx 2 meses atrás
@Phantasma Your last comment states "That's literally what the *search warrant* states. It's right at the beginning of this video" However the beginning of this video states "American actor Alec Baldwin was told a prop gun loaded with live rounds was safe to use, that's according to *newly released court records* " At no point does the video discuss a search warrant as you claim. Indeed there hasn't been a need for a search warrant in this case because everyone is cooperating. Nothing went through two people. The director and cinematographer don't sit behind each other, they sit very* close side by side. However, even if they had been behind one another, a blank is simply a cartridge without a bullet. It still explodes with the same force, so when there is a foreign object, such as a jammed casing, in the barrell it becomes a projectile with the same force as a same calibre bullet. There have absolutely been official releases from police, that's where all the information has come from. No one talking about live rounds is not speculation, it was at the time accurate to accounts from police. Speculation is different to asking why something was there that hasn't been demonstrated to be. Do you understand?
Phantasma
Phantasma 2 meses atrás
@TJ Marx I never said court records and search warrants are the same thing. Nobody here said anything about court records. And your statement that " no one has said there was a live round on set" is even less than speculation. There is no police report. There is no official conclusion of any kind about anything. Of course we're all speculating. But they have the casing and I don't know what other than a live round could go through two bodies. I'm no gun expert. I'm no legal scholar. I'm making assumptions based on the little that I heard. But I don't have a problem admitting to my ignorance. Try putting a little effort into understanding what is being said. /eyeroll
TJ Marx
TJ Marx 2 meses atrás
@Phantasma /Sigh Court records are not search warrants. That Alec Baldwin made a statement about a live round is his own speculation. Try listening beyond the first 10 seconds of the video, my gosh.
Blindspot Spotter
Blindspot Spotter 2 meses atrás
Right. A gun is ALWAYS loaded. But in the case of a set, the danger is particularly sinister as the actor is expecting it to be loaded. So, you only know it's not dangerous after discharge. Just horrible.
TheTanman412
TheTanman412 2 meses atrás
Due to the writer’s strike, and IATSE- Scabs were brought in to continue the film’s production without delays. Long hours, inexperienced & unprofessional workers- the prop master is clearly to blame.
J.D.T.
J.D.T. 2 meses atrás
Whether you own a gun, plan on owning or want nothing do with guns, at least educate yourself on Gun safety. That should be a must in your life.
Michaels Lab
Michaels Lab 2 meses atrás
Given the actor was told live ammo in a prop gun is safe; this may be murder by proxy
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jose Sanchez
jose Sanchez 2 meses atrás
Just when they avoided a strike by over working hours, safety, and other issues
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
@MarcosElMalo2 HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THE FOUNDATIONS🤫
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND Robert Bertram IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS....AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS
MarcosElMalo2
MarcosElMalo2 2 meses atrás
Low budget often means non-union. I highly doubt this production was under IATSE auspices.
first name last name
first name last name 2 meses atrás
I was just thinking about that
Vlad Tschill
Vlad Tschill 2 meses atrás
Alec wasnt just an actor. He was a producer. He should have known most of all. Not to mention. Even when filming they are not supposed to point even a prop gun at other actors. They use camera angles to make it look like they are pointing the gun at someone
Neel Roy
Neel Roy 2 meses atrás
@Huey thanks! So, we are in that kind of age aye? Google *everything* . Sad. Thanks again though.
Huey
Huey 2 meses atrás
@Neel Roy What he is saying is not true, and hes's repeating it on every comment. When you see those type of shots angles are being used to give off the illusion that its aimed at the camera, also camera's not operated by a human are used. You can verify this with a simple google search, heck even in this incident the experts are confused as to how this could have even occurred, as there should have been no reason literally at all for him to be aiming directly at her.
Neel Roy
Neel Roy 2 meses atrás
@zapfanzapfan that answers my first question. Thanks.
zapfanzapfan
zapfanzapfan 2 meses atrás
You know when you see a gun man in a movie shooting at you? Well, that means the actor is shooting at the camera, where the cinematographer and the director sits. And got hit this time.
Play-a-maker
Play-a-maker 2 meses atrás
It wasn’t an actor that was shot dead
Stian Berg
Stian Berg 2 meses atrás
Not just actor, but also producer. In that capacity, he may be more responsible than if he was a mere actor.
AnandMohan
AnandMohan 2 meses atrás
@Adalwulf it may have been a camera shot that required Baldwin to shoot at the camera as if were a pov of the target.
00gyb00gy
00gyb00gy 2 meses atrás
@Adalwulf Alek Baldwin is the producer, and is the actor who pulled the trigger. But, as mentioned in the video, the armorer and prop master did not complete procedures before calling "cold gun" and handing it to the actor (Baldwin).
Adalwulf
Adalwulf 2 meses atrás
The person wasn't an actor, so why did he point the gun and pull the trigger? A joke? Seems weird to anyone else?
V. Dargain
V. Dargain 2 meses atrás
@Tony Shum Same .
Tony Shum
Tony Shum 2 meses atrás
He pays others to worry about it . Obviously you get what you pay for . Investigate the arms master .
Dislike Button
Dislike Button 2 meses atrás
Exactly i have met people who work on this props safety stuff they are paranoid beyond belief every second testing the gun shooting at the floor to test to the last second even when they hand the gun to the actor they still make an test thos and even demand the actor to do it too someone didn't do his/her job on the set or worse someone knew what they were doing and wanted this poor woman dead or something
TobaccoRowe
TobaccoRowe 2 meses atrás
I dry fire my revolver a lot. I put empty cartages in it every time, to protect the firing pin. If I killed someone while attempting to dry fire my revolver, I would expect them to put me in Prison.
BARRY WATTS
BARRY WATTS 2 meses atrás
You know what, your right. I would say the same.
OutnBacker
OutnBacker 2 meses atrás
@workoutfanatic787 Can't say for sure, but my M&P's are safe to dry fire, according to the manuals. Strikers don't have the little hole in the bolt face that the a firing pin must go through with a dead stop inside the bolt to stop it from over penetrating the primers, so I'm guessing that most striker fired guns are likely safe to dry practice with - but ask your manufacturer.
OutnBacker
OutnBacker 2 meses atrás
@Dora Tiscareno So what? Not even relevant.
OutnBacker
OutnBacker 2 meses atrás
@Doc Austin Well.... maybe not. I'm speculating that the old adage "familiarity breeds contempt." may be at play. You get used to doing something on someone else's word, and it works fine - until... That, or, Baldwin is no expert, thus he might not know the difference between a blank - which in Hollywood can look like a live round for the camera - and a real live round. I have blank training rounds for .30-'06. and they definitely do not look live, with a rececssed wax seal over the case mouth, but prop dummy rounds, intended for close up camera work, are just cartridges with no propellant charge and no primer. Theycan fool the casual or untrained eye. This whole thing is just horrible.
workoutfanatic787
workoutfanatic787 2 meses atrás
@OutnBacker what about striker fire pistols?
Amanda Negretè
Amanda Negretè Mês atrás
WHAT was Baldwin doing in possession of a firearm? It’s against the law for ANYONE with a history of violence, even MISDEMEANOR assault to be in possession of a firearm. I KNOW the rules don’t apply to him but the law should.
SelvaKanthan SK
SelvaKanthan SK 2 meses atrás
Its clear that live rounds have no place on a movie set, except for practice on a shooting range.. May need to examine how much budget went on safety protocol/experts and were they adequate..
hamiltonriver
hamiltonriver 2 meses atrás
Different news agencies all say it was a rehearsal on the set of the movie "Rust." If Halyna Hutchins was required to be there to record the rehearsal as well as the director, where is the unedited video of her own death? We would know a lot more than just speculation. Why did several people handle the "Prop" gun before the police got there? Why did the assistant director not hand Alec the plastic gun for the rehearsed scene to come. They already said one of the three guns was a plastic replica. Why did Alec have to aim at her directly, if only rehearsing a scene? Did he even need to pull the trigger during this time? Why doen`t Alec ever mention Halyna by name? He only says it was a "tragic accident." One that he helped bring about!
Michael Demetriou
Michael Demetriou 2 meses atrás
The guns are real but modified with a barrel restrictor to allow the powder to burn and produce a flash from a blank round. Also blank rounds come in three different power levels full flash half flash and quarter flash, maybe the a full flash round was used in a gun that was fitted with a quarter flash barrel restrictor and this was displaced by the full flash round.
mikecorbeil
mikecorbeil 2 meses atrás
Quote : " _... Baldwin was told by an on-set weapons expert, a prop gun loaded with live rounds was safe to use. ..._ ". Hunh? But, and otoh, that quoted statement doesn't say that Alec had been told that the bullets in the gun he was using were live rounds, only having been told that live rounds in a prop gun is safe to use, so exactly what did Alec know about this? After all, being told that live rounds in a prop gun is safe to use is not exactly the same as telling Alec that the prop gun he would be using would have live rounds in it. If he did know these details, then he was told that it's safe, and if it's by the same expert who told him that " _a prop gun loaded with live rounds was safe to use_ ", then that so-called expert has some strong questioning to answer, plus possibly given a penalty like being prohibited from ever coaching about use of guns, ever again. It would be very serious or severe negligence for experts to make such damn mistakes. Actually, whether it was that expert or [anyone else], the person would still need to be seriously questioned and possibly prohibited from ever providing any coaching ever again about use of guns, except maybe those that only fire water. If Alec Baldwin ever begins working in or for making another western-style film, and he has to use a gun, he will surely be double or even triple careful about this. He fired a dangerous gun while thinking that it was safe, not knowing of the risks, so he surely isn't feeling happy at all about this tragic incident. He's shown standing with I guess his wife at 1:39 and we hear audience cheering, but he definitely doesn't look happy. I don't know what his facial expression normally looks like, but he clearly isn't smiling and I could guess that he looks saddened. I'll wish the families of the victims in this case good will, and also for Alec, who just went through a very sad incident/exprience. LASTLY, quote : " _But reports emerging from the New Mexico location, say several crew members had previously walked off the set due to concerns over weapons safety. ..._ ". It would be good to get more info. about this part of the story, like what was it that caused these crew members to be nervous, say, about "weapons safety" on this film set? Something triggered this concern and it would be interesting to learn about what this trigger, say, was. That would surely require interviewing one or two, say, of these crew members. Exactly what was it that put them on edge like that and why didn't they speak up about what made them concerned, f.e.? Do people working on film sets work under totalitarian directorship and the director wanted Alec to use a gun with live rounds in it without telling Alec and the other people working on this film project? There definitely is investigation to be done about this incident. How often has anything like this happened in film-making? I don't mean with stunt actors getting injured, for it's "part of the trade" and they surely have appropriate insurance for this, but other people in film-making surely don't get hurt, except like accidentally spraining an ankle, which is something that can happen any time, place, like when just crossing a street or walking a sidewalk or stairway, f.e.
Cobra
Cobra 2 meses atrás
I looked it up just a second ago to confirm. Another story is saying they walked off to protest the long hours and pay. Something just doesn’t add up here
Phantasma
Phantasma 2 meses atrás
1. The AD that handled Baldwin the gun got the weapon from the gun cart and told him it was ''cold'' , meaning that they thought it was safe to use precisely because it didn't contain actual live bullets. 2. The picture of Baldwin and his wife is an older one. 3. The safety issues that led to many of the staff quitting concerned the prop gun misfiring on set several times in the weeks prior to this incident. 4. Of course we're going to know more about this. It's not like there isn't a police investigation going on. Everybody needs to calm down.
Lon Glader
Lon Glader 2 meses atrás
STOP CALLING REAL GUNS “PROP GUNS”. I’M GOING TO START CALLING ALL GUNS PROP GUNDS THEN. PROP TANK, PROP GRENADE, PROP NUKE. Journalists need to start being more accurate.
Rudolf Wickond
Rudolf Wickond 2 meses atrás
ANY gun that can be loaded with live ammunition should not be allowed on screen. Prop guns shooting blanks can be made quite realistically, even with recoil. If there is some reason to have live guns (practice shooting) they should get a big red tape attached to them before entering the set.
Jason
Jason 2 meses atrás
The union put out a statement that said the gun had a live round in it! Why in the world would they have any live ammo on a movie set?! Sounds like a disgruntled union worker might have set up the crew for failure. Plus, the script supervisor who called 911 sounds very suspicious if you llsten to the full call audio. She was also disgruntled at the assistant director who handed the gum to Alec. She said he was yelling at her at lunch Plus, here conversation seems suspicious to me, especially after the 911 operator instructed her to stay on the line, but she gave the phone to some other dude. The union worker and the script supervisor both have motive to plant a real bullet in a prop gun It will be interesting to see if any intentional fuckery went on here.
J M
J M Mês atrás
If it says in the prop persons contract that they’re liable, then I would guess they are liable
David
David 2 meses atrás
I feel for the woman and her family. Since the old film crew quit over safety issues on set her family and the lawyers are in for a windfall.
Pooh Davis
Pooh Davis 2 meses atrás
In the world of firearms the end user is responsible for the safety of the weapon. A revolver is one of the simplest guns to check and Baldwin should carry some of the responsibility in this incident.
Black Sabbath Matters
No matter what happened...what was the motive for this? I dont really care about the bickering over him handling the gun.....someone slipped a live round in there not knowing who the gun would be used against...so its just some demented psycho?...nobody knew ahead of time where that gun would end up or who it was going to be pointed at.
Edward Warwick
Edward Warwick 2 meses atrás
There needs to be an international standard that requires a armorers union personnel to be on a site where one or more of their weapons are to be used as a extra safety check, to ensure no live ammo ever gets used. Sell all of the real western guns and buy look alike replicas that fire blanks only and real ammo will n not fit it.
NadeAlity xD
NadeAlity xD 2 meses atrás
There are gun safety experts on site and prop masters that deal with firearms on every movie and I'm pretty sure there are multiple companies that actually supply the weapons for films and they are there to,, and as I stated in other comments there is no reason on planet earth why live rounds should be anywhere near a movie set where firearms are going to be used by actors.
Tetsuya Ito
Tetsuya Ito 2 meses atrás
I wonder if it was sabotaged by one of the crew members that walked off earlier.
Clouded Leopard
Clouded Leopard 2 meses atrás
It doesn't matter what he was told. He had an obligation to check it HIMSELF, and it should NEVER have been directed towards ANYONE not participating in the scene at a safe distance. The lawsuits will be colossal.
Joe Montano
Joe Montano 2 meses atrás
This should *NEVER* have happened.... textbook, gross negligence!!!
ProjectFlashlight612
ProjectFlashlight612 2 meses atrás
Why were live rounds on set at all, much less in a prop gun?! Who loaded the weapon?
harpothehealer
harpothehealer 2 meses atrás
Whatever happened here in this tragedy, it shows there is no substitute for discipline and experience, where firearms are used or any potentially dangerous apparatus. Cutting corners for contractual business concerns which might be at work here is something that needs serious attention. At the end of the day there is loss of life here so someone HAS to be responsible.
SPmc
SPmc 2 meses atrás
… insightful … thank you
Style Points
Style Points 2 meses atrás
Why are live rounds anywhere close to a movie set?
mr. Moon
mr. Moon 2 meses atrás
I think same with Brandon Lee. There where was also real bullets in the prop gun.
Daniel Howell
Daniel Howell 2 meses atrás
Who?
Daniel Howell
Daniel Howell 2 meses atrás
You mean Vic Morrow.
Bob Smith
Bob Smith 2 meses atrás
A blank was jammed and Brandon was hit with shrapnel.
M Green
M Green 2 meses atrás
Not only did he kill a human being, there was also an issue of safety, he is the producer
Dave J
Dave J 2 meses atrás
Deciding that only one person is responsible for all gun safety on a movie set is ridicules and irresponsible. That fits the the I'm the star narrative completely. In their own mind Stars can say anything, do anything and are always right. Why would anyone with a normal sense of responsibility pick up a gun that they obviously know nothing about, point it at a living person, put their finger on the trigger and pull the trigger? It was be interesting to hear the conversation that was going on when Mr. Baldwin shot the gun. Mr. Baldwin obviously has poor impulse control and is never responsible for his foolish or dangerous actions. Contrary to Mr. Baldwin's feelings the gun is not responsible it is the person who has the gun who is responsible for what happens.
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
@Angie G HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
Angie G
Angie G 2 meses atrás
Well, Hollywood stupidity means job security for gun babysitters and a new industry is born. An industry that has been dying due to CGI tech but now has been killed by Hannah Gutierrez Reed. No insurance company will ever insure movie sets with authentic weapons again at an affordable rate.,That’s it folks. Find a new profession.
Bluewren Reilly
Bluewren Reilly 2 meses atrás
Baldwin has always been an accident waiting to happen. Can anyone really see him being truly concerned about his people making his movie. He was not just an actor he was also the producer the responsibility stops with him.
Audhild Benjaminsen
Audhild Benjaminsen 2 meses atrás
The question is why he pointed and fired towards a set crew member?Even if the gun was loaded with blanks, how come he pulled the trigger when he was not recording/taping?Was he actually joking and not even thinking of firing, I mean ,a blank pulls of the same loud noise as real ammunition so I doubt his intention was to fire anyway.
Jack Bartlett
Jack Bartlett 2 meses atrás
Live ammo should not have been anywhere near that gun, the set, or the location!!!
MakeDredd2
MakeDredd2 2 meses atrás
This would not have happened in a Tom Cruise production. The gold standard of Hollywood movie making. 🏅
Laren tannen
Laren tannen 2 meses atrás
No, Cruise s_its diamond bullets. He is also a db. Stop revering ah
Bill Bopperton
Bill Bopperton 2 meses atrás
Stop
Thomas Nicholson
Thomas Nicholson 2 meses atrás
so sad. Safety protocols are there for a reason. Sure, aim at the camera, but maybe have a shield in=between? Movie makers globally take heed.
Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams 2 meses atrás
Same thing unfortunately happened to Brandon Lee
Brian Nomad
Brian Nomad 2 meses atrás
They need to hit up the the John Wick cast, what ever they are doing is working flawlessly.
Dave Smith
Dave Smith 2 meses atrás
They never will, because the John Wick production is incredibly pro gun which is the opposite of the rest of the hollywood types, save for a select few individuals.
MarcosElMalo2
MarcosElMalo2 2 meses atrás
@Doc Austin Bullseye. Uh, I mean, correct!
Doc Austin
Doc Austin 2 meses atrás
As many times as Wick has shot someone in the face point blank, I have to believe they use CGI for the muzzle flash. Maybe it's time to make that the norm.
12lb. toothbrush
12lb. toothbrush 2 meses atrás
Big budget and all safety protocols followed. Plus, Keanu is an excellent tactical shooter and respects the weapons and understands gun safety . Baldwin is an asshat working on a set where safety problems happened previously and he is a co producer. A single action revolver does not just go off by itself.
bummers
bummers 2 meses atrás
Rule #1: No live rounds in film set. Rule #2: No live rounds in film set. Rule #3: See rule #1. What is so difficult about this?
Erin James
Erin James 2 meses atrás
When theyre loaded with live rounds, or when theyre real guns. But the gun is not the criminal. The gun is innocent!! The one holding the gun, who pulled the trigger is guilty.
Julie Healingleaf
Julie Healingleaf 2 meses atrás
Who put bullets in a prop gun??
tristan2stew
tristan2stew 2 meses atrás
Watch their actions, not their words💯🔥🔥
graciegjj
graciegjj 2 meses atrás
💯
Wayne Rice
Wayne Rice 2 meses atrás
What goes around comes around.
MY SELF
MY SELF 2 meses atrás
See what happens when you make fun of guns instead of actually learning about them 🤣🤣
Hali T Lightwork
Hali T Lightwork 2 meses atrás
Except that he was a Producer, too! Not just the actor. Producers are responsible for unsafe sets. He and others need to go to jail.
Dora Tiscareno
Dora Tiscareno 2 meses atrás
HER HUSBAND IS CONNECTED TOO THE CLINTONS AND THEIR FOUNDATIONS ALIC IS SUCH A HATER OF TRUMP
Noble Hill
Noble Hill 2 meses atrás
There was friction on the set
01 sevensix
01 sevensix 2 meses atrás
How are you saying prop gun and live rounds together without laughing. Come on guys.
llnam12
llnam12 2 meses atrás
assume every gun is loaded and dangerous until YOU CHECK IT for yourself
1776 Scalia
1776 Scalia 2 meses atrás
EVEN AFTER YOU CHECK IT YOU STILL TREAT IT AS IT'S LOADED! This is why the next step is to point the gun in a safe direction when you need to discharge the action.. This is also because some guns, like semi-auto shotguns could still have a round in the magazine tube even after you inspected it! It's to keep it simple... guns always loaded and never point it at anything you don't intend to destroy... Consider it loaded PERIOD!
Angie G
Angie G 2 meses atrás
Baldwin wouldn’t know this basic and logical rule since his people don’t acknowledge personal responsibility with a weapon.
mark shean
mark shean 2 meses atrás
Hollywood should all have to read GUN SENSE and acknowledge they understand it before ever being able to touch any firearm on a movie set.
The SemperFiGuy
The SemperFiGuy 2 meses atrás
Alec Baldwin should be arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter and do some jail time. He took zero steps to ensure that a loaded firearm that was handed to him was not actually safe. The first cardinal rule when handling ANY firearm, "Prop" or otherwise. Second cardinal rule: NEVER point a firearm at anything you don't intend to destroy. Cardinal Rule number three: Assume that every firearm you pick up is loaded until proven otherwise. It makes no difference that someone told him the gun was "cold". That means nothing. The best lesson that all of Hollywood can be taught is to arrest, try and convict this guy so that they all get the message.
L Dine
L Dine 2 meses atrás
Treat every gun as loaded
Cameron Fairchild IV
Cameron Fairchild IV 2 meses atrás
Actor Jon-Erik Hexum comes to mind. R.I.P.
Patrick P. Jeanotte
Patrick P. Jeanotte 2 meses atrás
Everyone knows this guy's a ticking time bomb with his temper and holier then thou attitude, hope he gets his so it doesn't happen over and over again and again with this jerk.
Grover
Grover 2 meses atrás
Alec Baldwin had to point the gun at her, AIM center mass and pull the trigger ! I would ask why ?
David
David 2 meses atrás
Next time you watch a movie and Actors are walking while carrying a rifle check to see if their finger is on the trigger or pointed straight forward. Even tho the rifle may not be loaded they know enough about firearm safety to keep the finger off the trigger.
Gilbert Suarez
Gilbert Suarez 2 meses atrás
Guns are the most evil dangerous weapons that human kind has ever made
Andrew Dunbar
Andrew Dunbar 2 meses atrás
Surely you should always treat a prop gun as a real loaded gun just as a good safety practice? You shouldn't be squeezing the trigger pointing at anyone that's not part of the script?
Huey
Huey 2 meses atrás
@Andrew Dunbar What he is saying is not true, and hes's repeating it on every comment. When you see those type of shots angles are being used to give off the illusion that its aimed at the camera, also camera's not operated by a human are used. You can verify this with a simple google search, heck even in this incident the experts are confused as to how this could have even occurred, as there should have been no reason literally at all for him to be aiming directly at her.
Andrew Dunbar
Andrew Dunbar 2 meses atrás
@zapfanzapfan That's a great point I failed to think of.
Maximilian Mustermann
Maximilian Mustermann 2 meses atrás
@zapfanzapfan They don't sit directly behind the lens, which is where the bullet would go if you shoot straight at the camera. Also, modern cameras can be rigged so that you can be away from the camera while watching the viewfinder/monitor. Even tilting/panning, focus pulling and everything else can be done remotely these days with amazing technology. No reason to risk getting hit by a bullet just because you want to film a direct shot to the camera.
zapfanzapfan
zapfanzapfan 2 meses atrás
You know when you see a gun man in a movie shooting at you? Well, that means the actor is shooting at the camera, where the cinematographer and the director sits. And got hit this time.
hizzle mobizzle
hizzle mobizzle 2 meses atrás
Lot of details we don't know.
Duncan Stewart
Duncan Stewart 2 meses atrás
A better headline might be that the man was told the gun was not loaded with live ammunition. Cold. A headline about money is disappointing perhaps DW.
Daryl Ragland
Daryl Ragland Mês atrás
ACCOUNTABILITY PERIOD. He sandwich he didn't pull the trigger. The gun was in his hand
Catholic 3 DOD
Catholic 3 DOD 2 meses atrás
How the heck did Alec shoot a live bullet at two persons?
Tom M
Tom M 2 meses atrás
As the news keeps coming out about this crime it looks worse and worse for Baldwin. He's definitely a man who belongs behind bars for a good long time.
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